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The Brad 10-18-2009 10:56 AM

Pushing H.

Spaceman Spiff 10-18-2009 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=The Brad;17580807]Pushing H.[/QUOTE]

On everybody.

You need some H, Brad?

The Brad 10-18-2009 11:09 AM

Nah, I'm done chasing dragons.

Epidemechanical 10-18-2009 11:10 AM

my bitterness and hatred grows more and more potent with each passing day

gaslight 10-18-2009 11:32 AM

Forklift rampage imminent.

Epidemechanical 10-18-2009 11:47 AM

oh no dude im kind of getting into my job

it was really daunting at first but on friday i actually kind of had fun. I RP my jeep to be like a mech suit or mobile armor or something and i enjoy the challenge of unloading and loading awkward freight. it's a lot harder than it seems. very delicate.

but i just hate the human race. everybody.

gaslight 10-18-2009 11:48 AM

Sure is man I don't get forklifts at work but we do use manual pallet jacks which can be a bitch to steer and whatnot through the lifts.

I can picture you as a mechwarrior.

Sablate McNuff 10-18-2009 12:12 PM

First show went really well, but the sound guy had some issues/suggestions with us:

1) Apparently my vocalist needs a condenser mic, so does anybody have any suggestions?

2) I need to watch my levels. I'm a bit sloppy when I play, so I'm going to work on that and put the compressor into my rack (which I am going to split into two 4-space racks for ease of transportation...sh*t's heavy!). Also, I intentionally keep my distortion level quieter because, dynamically, it needs to be. Should I keep it at the same level as my normal playing and have the sound guy worry about it, or should I keep it lower and tell the sound guy not to mess with it?

Epidemechanical 10-18-2009 12:26 PM

ksm27

Sablate McNuff 10-18-2009 12:35 PM

I'm presuming he meant for stage use...

fatbandit 10-18-2009 04:38 PM

What's wrong with an SM58 or SM58-a-like?

And I have to set distortion louder than it sounds like it should be, as it loses a lot when the whole band is playing. The soundguy probably won't even notice you kicking it in too much so just give him the most consistent sound you can and make his life easier.

Convectuoso 10-18-2009 05:33 PM

Using a condenser mic for live vocals is just wrong on so many levels, dunno why he suggested it. Did he say why? Or was he just talking **** lol.

SM58's are pretty much the standard for a reason. A) they work. B) they're almost bullet proof.



And I personally set my overdrive to the exact same level as clean. But it can be hard to set the same relative level because an overdriven sound is much less dynamic than clean. Using a compressor might even that out but I'm not too sure cause I haven't used a compressor in a live situation.

Epidemechanical 10-18-2009 06:37 PM

condenser mics can be used live its fine they're not THAT fragile

gaslight 10-19-2009 09:02 AM

I lent my Shure Beta 58 to my friend like two and a half years ago and I still don't have it back :(.

BenJammin 10-19-2009 09:24 AM

I don't lend stuff to people unless I see them extremely regularly.

gaslight 10-19-2009 09:44 AM

Indeed.

BenJammin 10-19-2009 09:51 AM

My entire amp and keyboard are at my guitarist's right now, but he's, well, my guitarist, and lives in the apartment building directly behind mine, so I'm not too worried about it. :p

Plus I know the keycode to get into his building. >_>

FunkMetalBass 10-19-2009 01:17 PM

I just got a tattoo offer for my Carvin. Hmmmm...I do need about $500 worth of work done...

The Brad 10-19-2009 01:46 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17583093]I just got a tattoo offer for my Carvin. Hmmmm...I do [B]need [/B]about $500 worth of work done...[/QUOTE]

Might need to reevaluate that statement, bro. ;)


So again I ask, Nordie MM4.4 pup for sale, anyone interested?

FunkMetalBass 10-19-2009 02:07 PM

[quote=The Brad;17583129]Might need to reevaluate that statement, bro. ;)


So again I ask, Nordie MM4.4 pup for sale, anyone interested?[/quote]

As an artist, you should understand that it is completely necessary. ;)

Can't do the pup. Sorry, holmes.

karmapavementplan 10-19-2009 03:10 PM

Just got myself a korg pitchblack. That's my treat for the week... till I find my wallet.

Convectuoso 10-19-2009 05:10 PM

[quote=Raayl;17581920]condenser mics can be used live its fine they're not THAT fragile[/quote]
I know they're not that fragile, I just mentioned why 58's rock for live work.

Main issues is feedback, and obviously spill from all other instruments. BUt mainly feedback; much more prominent with condensers.

fatbandit 10-19-2009 05:20 PM

I just can't understand why he'd say your singer NEEDS a condenser? Why isn't a 58 kicking it for her?

fatbandit 10-19-2009 05:21 PM

Also, this M9 is pretty rad, just set up a nice ambient patch with loads of reverb, delay and pitch shifting harmonies.

Convectuoso 10-19-2009 06:03 PM

[quote=fatbandit;17583503]I just can't understand why he'd say your singer NEEDS a condenser? Why isn't a 58 kicking it for her?[/quote]
Yeah that's what I wanna know too :confused:

Maybe she's too quiet?


Just gooogled the M9. Looks pretty solid. Is it a looper too?

FunkMetalBass 10-19-2009 09:25 PM

[quote=Joelbassman;17583661]Yeah that's what I wanna know too :confused:

Maybe she's too quiet?


Just gooogled the M9. Looks pretty solid. Is it a looper too?[/quote]

She's got a fairly powerful voice - nothing too difficult to use to cut through the mix. I think she just needs to get a bit closer to the mic and the sound guy can stfu.

I got my 4-space rack today for my amp and crossover, and I'll be (hopefully) getting my shallow 4-space rack next week for my tuner, power conditioner, crossover, and pre.

It'll be great for recording because I don't mic anything anymore, so I can take my shallow rack with me and, in essence, have everything I need for recording in an easy-to-transport case.

The goal is to DI out into the first channel of the 2-channel compressor, out into the second channel of the 2-band compressor, and then have the sound guy take that signal. It's a bit of extra gear and time (although much lighter to carry, with my current rack weighing it at almost 60 lbs), but I think the clubs will appreciate the more consistent bass levels.

Convectuoso 10-19-2009 10:56 PM

When I'm recording other people I tend to DI [I]and[/I] mic up their amp. Just for more options when it comes to mixing.

P.s. what do you mean by DI out into the first channel of the 2 channel? There shouldn't really be any DI-ing till right before the desk. AFAIK you can't "DI" into a compressor. Direct injection just for matching the impedance of the signal to the desk.

Are you using two compressors?

FunkMetalBass 10-19-2009 11:37 PM

[quote=Joelbassman;17584340]When I'm recording other people I tend to DI [I]and[/I] mic up their amp. Just for more options when it comes to mixing.

P.s. what do you mean by DI out into the first channel of the 2 channel? There shouldn't really be any DI-ing till right before the desk. AFAIK you can't "DI" into a compressor. Direct injection just for matching the impedance of the signal to the desk.

Are you using two compressors?[/quote]

My RBI has a DI out. My compressor is essentially two compressors in one - it has two separate channels. I was going to run an XLR cable from the DI out of my RBI into the left channel of the compressor, then out from the left channel and into the right channel, and then have the soundguy take that signal.

Convectuoso 10-20-2009 01:16 AM

There's no need to compress it twice though. One should be more than enough.

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure if it's a good idea to send the DI to the compressor. It should be fine, but A) i'm not familiar with the RB1 or your compressor. And B) You should just be able to go from the output with a regular jack lead to the compressor.

Is this in the studio or live?

fatbandit 10-20-2009 01:37 AM

Yeah it's a looper along the same lines as the DL4. Only better.

mic'ing bass cabs is the way forward though. and i'm sure quite a lot of people use compression twice, but i'm not really a compression fan.


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