[QUOTE=toaster135]Wow, that was in-depth. Good work. I'd discuss, but anything I could say would seem inferior compared to that behemoth of a post.[/QUOTE]

Well therein lies the double-edged sword. If it weren't in depth then it wouldn't be worth discussing in the first place.

I'm not suggesting that everyone write the same amount I did, that would be asking too much and would in a way be futile. The groundwork has been laid out, everyone elses job should be a little bit easier now. If you guys don't have anything to say about April Ethereal, what about When? What is revealed in that song that gives us a greater understanding of the plot? Any size post would be appreciated.

And this isn't a contest btw, where one post can be deemed better than the other, every post adds something unique--a different spin on the same content that may add to the greater understanding of the whole.

To those interested the analysis is on pg 275 of this thread. I appreciate the compliments guys but I would also love to see some thought as well.

P.S. Good post Penelope. I used to play ST myself btw.

I don't have an era of preferance. I enjoy elements of everything, from Orchid to Ghost Reveries. I've loved hearing the progression they've made in recent albums, but I still enjoy the rawness of the earlier productions.

MAYH being probably my favorite album, I aswell cannot understand this GR-bashing. I know, the first times I listened, I was like "WHAT"? But when later listening to the same songs, I realized I just hadn't paid enough attention to the tracks. For example, Ghost of Perdition, the part at 2.47, what he does with his voice and the instruments, is just plain incredible. When I heard that, I thought, "why didn't I pay attention before"? This is what makes Opeth so great, their ablility to make you find something new every time you listen to the same song. And on Ghost Reveries, this is very common. I love what they've done with their sound, they've evolved. Don't get me wrong, I'm A Die-Hard fan of their earlier material, as I am of the new. Ia mnot going to wirte here, that GR is the best album ever, or the worst of Opeth albums. I just cannot say that Opeth has a "worst of". Every album brings something new and fresh, which I enjoy. It's been said a million times, but just give Ghost Reveries another listen. It doesn't have to grow on you, you don't even have to like it very much, you all just have to realize, that this album is not bad.

What is OPETH's Most Driving, and Heaviest CD?
 

Title speaks it all mates,
I need to find out Opeth's 'heaviest' cd, full of chaos in riffs and music, one right after another, each song. The fastest, and the heaviest! Any ideas?

[QUOTE=Purity]Title speaks it all mates,
I need to find out Opeth's 'heaviest' cd, full of chaos in riffs and music, one right after another, each song. The fastest, and the heaviest! Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
Deliverance is generally considered the heaviest album, because it's got the highest heavy:soft ratio. It still has soft parts, but the majority is heavy.

another recommendation post....

i've got blackwater park and ghost reveries, both from neurotoxin's daily upload, but i've been meaning to buy an opeth album for a while. i'm thinking of getting still life, partly because it's only £6.99, and partly because white cluster and the moor, the only other songs i have by them, are my two favourite opeth tracks. out of the other two albums, i prefer ghost reveries and the baying of the hounds is probably my favourite song off that. so would still life be the best album for me to buy?

[QUOTE=Kage]I went into the room and no one else was in there. Wtf.[/QUOTE]
Whoa... sounds like you have some issues to work out.

Heaviest cd? I'd say either MAYH, BWP or GR. I think GR is probably the most traditionally "metal", though. His growling is the best on it too.

What is soulseek, out of curiosity?

[QUOTE=toaster135]Heaviest cd? I'd say either MAYH, BWP or GR. I think GR is probably the most traditionally "metal", though. His growling is the best on it too.

What is soulseek, out of curiosity?[/QUOTE]
... You forgot Deliverance.

Its a p2p program. And GR is their softest... I think anyway.

Deliverance really isn't that heavy. There are a couple riffs that are heavier, yeah, but it's more or less like every other Opeth album, in terms of heaviness. I still love it, don't get me wrong.

... Really? You'd argue that Wreath is equally as heavy as say, The Funeral Portrait?

Oh well, I guess our opinions differ on what heaviness is. I still think GR is their softest (save D-nation).

Well by the numbers, Deliverance is heavier. It has a higher distortion-to-clean ratio, if you know what I mean. But I just find that although it tries to be really heavy with the simple riffs and stuff, it's not as heavy as the sum of it's parts. GR has lots of light parts, but when the heavy parts come it's just insane to me.

I revise my previous statement, Deliverance is the most traditionally metal.

I find the riffs are much more aggressive then on GR, and Mikeals growls seem a lot more... gut renchingly heavy (Wreath, as an example again).

MAYH is the heaviest album, IMO...

Opeth's heaviest moment is in Demon of the Fall, after the first acoustic part, when Mikael kicks in with that scream. A mosh pit never fails to encompass an entire venue when they play that...

It would be way heavier with some better production. It would be so cool if they redid their older albums, say from Orchid to My Arms.

[QUOTE=toaster135]It would be way heavier with some better production. It would be so cool if they redid their older albums, say from Orchid to My Arms.[/QUOTE]
Now this, I agree with. Yes, the rawness add's some new effects and originallity to the older ones, but man, they would sound so much better with some nice BWP styled production.

[QUOTE=Material Boy]another recommendation post....

i've got blackwater park and ghost reveries, both from neurotoxin's daily upload, but i've been meaning to buy an opeth album for a while. i'm thinking of getting still life, partly because it's only £6.99, and partly because white cluster and the moor, the only other songs i have by them, are my two favourite opeth tracks. out of the other two albums, i prefer ghost reveries and the baying of the hounds is probably my favourite song off that. so would still life be the best album for me to buy?[/QUOTE]
Holy crap, Still Life for that cheap? GO FOR IT. Of course I don't know how cheap that actually is, since I can't convert pounds to US dollars.

It's still a good deal, and the album I'd recommened to get next.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Now this, I agree with. Yes, the rawness add's some new effects and originallity to the older ones, but man, they would sound so much better with some nice BWP styled production.[/QUOTE]

O Yeh.

That would seriously make my life. Too bad Mikael and Co. hate those two albums.

[QUOTE=Cain]O Yeh.

That would seriously make my life. Too bad Mikael and Co. hate those two albums.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, to bad. :upset:

Well Mikeal said one thing that really bugged him was the vocals on those albums... now he can redo them with his new kick arse vocals we see on the lastest albums...

Yeah, a remixed "Morningrise" would most likely become Opeth's best-selling album. Then they could release "To Bid you Farewell" as a single and own everything out there now. :D

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Yeah, to bad. :upset:

Well Mikeal said one thing that really bugged him was the vocals on those albums... now he can redo them with his new kick arse vocals we see on the lastest albums...[/QUOTE]

Todays vocals by Mikael are awsome, no doubt about it but, the vocals back then go well with the music IMO.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Todays vocals by Mikael are awsome, no doubt about it but, the vocals back then go well with the music IMO.[/QUOTE]

He's probably referring to the horribly out-of-tune clean vocals.

I'm not to big into his old scream, either. Its still alright, but I think sometimes it clashes with the music. That could all be perfectly fixed with Steven Wilson helping out...

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I'm not to big into his old scream, either. Its still alright, but I think sometimes it clashes with the music. That could all be perfectly fixed with Steven Wilson helping out...[/QUOTE]

I like his old scream, but im still glad that it "evolved".

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]I like his old scream, but im still glad that it "evolved".[/QUOTE]
I'm very glad it did. It just didn't have the power that his new one does, he couldn't of made the line "The lepers coiled neath the trees" as magical is it is if he used his old growl. But again, my opinion.

The old albums are fine the way they are. I don't think they would sound right with modern production and the new growling style, and especially not with Mendez as opposed to the old bassist. The bass on Morningrise is totally unlike anything Opeth has done afterward.

Sometimes you should just leave well enough alone; if it ain't broke, why fix it?

So I've been trying to do a Mikael-style death growl, not because I'd ever want to use it in a song, but just so I can. I can't figure out how he does it though.

It helps if you keep your mouth as closed as possible...makes it quite a bit lower.

I find also that if you hold your tongue against the top of your mouth, only leaving a small hole, it takes on a Necrophagist vibe. You can't say anything with it, not that that matters. :p

It's not like I know anything about death vocals anyway. I'm not even sure how to do it without messing up your throat.