[QUOTE=Sad But True;18265354]I had a £900 student loan.
I paid £240 for the first month's rent and deposit.
I paid £60 for the admin/financial checks.
I paid £55 for van hire.
I've spent about £60 on buying shit for the house.
I've spent about £50 on food/petrol/etc.
I've got to pay about £220 on the first of december for rent/bills.
I've got to pay £180 to clear my debts on friday.
I've got to pay £65 car tax at the end of the month.

I don't have a job yet.

[I]I'm running out of things to sell.[/I]


FUCK.[/QUOTE]


Looks like you'll have to sell your arse old lad.:lol:

Anyways, I'm now more confussed than ever as to which console to purrchase.

Put 200 notes aside to buy mesel a standby amp out of the proceeds from selling the G&L (sniff) so if i save on that i could put it towards a new PS3 mebbys. Failing that it's a wiiiiiiii. We'll see.

[quote=The Transporter;18265363]they took out backwards compatibility on ps3 because it raised prices unnecessarily. they still sell ps2s, so if you really want to play a ps2 game, just go buy one for $50 or whatever they cost now. buying a new ps3 PLUS a ps2 is cheaper than it was to buy a ps3 that had backwards compatibility. also the psmove is infinitely more accurate than the wiimote (which isn't really saying much since the wiimote has terrible tracking) and also SECONDARY focus on the ps3. which means we'll still get a ton of games that don't suck, unlike the wii.

xbox360 is good if you like to own a console to play games that are also on pc.

wii is just trash. even the new super mario bros game sucks a big one compared to the old school ones. the best part about wii is virtual console, but the limited selection makes it meh at best. seirously, no Earthbound? wat.[/quote]

All I can really say about backwards compatability, is that just looking it from a business point of view - nintendo managed it, so why can't sony? Technically there's probably a good reason but as a selling point, allowing it then dropping it isn't great.

But like I was saying about the motion control - it's not really the technology behind it that's causing the problems, it's just a bad application. It's unnessecary and, as can be seen with the wii, it tires quickly. I don't understand why microsoft and sony have jumped on this so late when it already has got bad press.

But yeah, I agree with you - Xbox is more or less a cut down PC. That's why I was saying unless there's a dramatic shift in the next gen of consoles (and not a bloody gimmicky one), I imagine the quality of console gaming lagging far behind PC gaming.

never liked pc games but but xbox is a good console alright much prefare it of the latest consoles

students going nuts in the uk atm

[quote=The_Mop;18265406]All I can really say about backwards compatability, is that just looking it from a business point of view - nintendo managed it, so why can't sony? Technically there's probably a good reason but as a selling point, allowing it then dropping it isn't great.

But like I was saying about the motion control - it's not really the technology behind it that's causing the problems, it's just a bad application. It's unnessecary and, as can be seen with the wii, it tires quickly. I don't understand why microsoft and sony have jumped on this so late when it already has got bad press.

But yeah, I agree with you - Xbox is more or less a cut down PC. That's why I was saying unless there's a dramatic shift in the next gen of consoles (and not a bloody gimmicky one), I imagine the quality of console gaming lagging far behind PC gaming.[/quote]
ps3 has ps1 but not ps2 backwards compatibility. based on that, it's unfair to say the wii has bc. wii can play gamecube, but not n64, not snes, not nes, at least without rebuying on virtual console.

motion control sucks. nintendo made a shit ton of money with it, but also burnt the people that actually play games. they're like the apple of video games now. all flash, but no substance (OWAIT APPLE DOESNT DO FLASH LOL). ps3 is just trying to grab some of that market and provide the best gaming experience. it now does everything that all the other systems do, only better.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18265354]I had a £900 student loan.
I paid £240 for the first month's rent and deposit.
I paid £60 for the admin/financial checks.
I paid £55 for van hire.
I've spent about £60 on buying shit for the house.
I've spent about £50 on food/petrol/etc.
I've got to pay about £220 on the first of december for rent/bills.
I've got to pay £180 to clear my debts on friday.
I've got to pay £65 car tax at the end of the month.

I don't have a job yet.

I'm running out of things to sell.


FUCK.[/QUOTE]

:(.

I really don't get how you get to the point of having so little money; i jsut cant comprehend buying things and entering into situations in that state or that will lead me to that state.

I have a car, rent etc and i've still got thousands of pounds saved up. and thats working a shitty awfully low paid job.

[QUOTE=The Transporter;18265465]ps3 has ps1 but not ps2 backwards compatibility. based on that, it's unfair to say the wii has bc. wii can play gamecube, but not [B]n64, not snes, not nes, at least without rebuying on virtual console.[/B]

motion control sucks. nintendo made a shit ton of money with it, but also burnt the people that actually play games. they're like the apple of video games now. all flash, but no substance (OWAIT APPLE DOESNT DO FLASH LOL). ps3 is just trying to grab some of that market and provide the best gaming experience. it now does everything that all the other systems do, only better.[/QUOTE]

but dude, ps2 games are disks. nintendo has at least the excuse of not putting cartridge ports on the wii, ps3 are just being cocks about it

Well sometimes you [i]have[/i] to do things that put you in the state.

I'm doing an MA, taking a year out would have been detrimental to my focus to my topic. Fortunately, I was lucky enough to win the faculty bursary that paid for my tuition fees, but the rent and living costs and fucking me right in the A. But it's a necessary cost (to me), that will leave me in debt etc. But ultimately, it will be beneficial, obviously.

[QUOTE=purple_hazer;18265537]but dude, ps2 games are disks. nintendo has at least the excuse of not putting cartridge ports on the wii, ps3 are just being cocks about it[/QUOTE]

the wii architecture is near-identical to the gamecube so that's why it has flawless bc as standard

ps3 and ps2 are very different systems, and currently even high-end pcs have trouble with decent emulation of some ps2 games to the point where the average performance is relatively low - certainly below what sony would want to charge for.

every individual game would need individually adapted emulation code apparently, or at least a significant minority of them.

we pay less and don't get the privilege, that's just how it is

ahh see i had no idea about the large differences between the coding of the games themselves.

idk, it just seems like they COULD have made it work but just didnt, assumedly because of profit margins being much smaller that way

[QUOTE=EmbraceRandom;18265546]Well sometimes you [i]have[/i] to do things that put you in the state.

I'm doing an MA, taking a year out would have been detrimental to my focus to my topic. Fortunately, I was lucky enough to win the faculty bursary that paid for my tuition fees, but the rent and living costs and fucking me right in the A. But it's a necessary cost (to me), that will leave me in debt etc. But ultimately, it will be beneficial, obviously.[/QUOTE]

Well i've done an undergrad and a post-grad and never been in that kind of situation. not saying that in a smug way just saying thats how it's been for me.

yeah definitely they could have, would've been an extraordinarily poor business decision though i reckon.

got a coconut sponge from the co-op for 9p the other day

gonna make a fucking sweet coconut sponge tomorrow for a mate's birthday then give it to him wrapped up in the box with the price tag on and see if he notices

[QUOTE=Squirrel;18265654]Well i've done an undergrad and a post-grad and never been in that kind of situation. not saying that in a smug way just saying thats how it's been for me.[/QUOTE]


nah I know, it's cool.
I'd say it's one of the only things worth getting into debt for because ultimately it'll pay dividends. Hoping to do a PhD after this, gonna whore myself out to any institute that has good facilities and funding opportunities. Lancaster sucks for funding in any 'art' other than theatre at the moment :-\ fags.

PC gaming is crapping out. Many games released are plagued with bugs because they're just shitty ports of what is out for consoles. There are however some good small company games coming out, or even free ones with good support and communities

Just started playing TF2 and Valve seems really tightly knit with it

I thibk gaming in general is on the slide, or at least has been on a VERY gentle slide for a long time. I'm literally talking over a decade. At first I thought it was nostalgia but I genuinely think the gaming industry is just doing something[s] wrong and it's beginning to show.

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[quote=purple_hazer;18265611]ahh see i had no idea about the large differences between the coding of the games themselves.

idk, it just seems like they COULD have made it work but just didnt, assumedly because of profit margins being much smaller that way[/quote]
they took out the ps2 bc because they had to basically put in the whole ps2 architecture which is expensive. to cut costs (since everyone was bitching about ps3's price) they decided to nix ps2 bc. like i said, you can buy a new ps3 + new ps2 for less than it cost to buy the initial run of ps3s with ps2 bc.

[QUOTE=Squirrel;18267264]I thibk gaming in general is on the slide, or at least has been on a VERY gentle slide for a long time. I'm literally talking over a decade. At first I thought it was nostalgia but I genuinely think the gaming industry is just doing something[s] wrong and it's beginning to show.[/QUOTE]

I'm inclined to say it's nostalgia, or rather, you simply have more important things in your life than sitting in front of a screen playing a game. As I speak my PS3 sits in the corner of my table unused and unloved. If I do play a game on it anytime soon it'll be GT5 but even then I won't be playing it until early to late January 'cause of trips abroad and January exams.

I do like to think that there's more to gain from old games, and I'm not talking pong, I'm talking about the likes of chess. Or, drunken Risk.

i do feel like a i wasted a lottttttttt of time after i play a game or what not theres more improtant things to be doin!

at the same time

ive one acheivement left to get in forza 3


its to win gold ine very race, ive 1/4 of it left ...1,000 races + ...its nuts

[QUOTE=Papa Shank;18267353]I'm inclined to say it's nostalgia, or rather, you simply have more important things in your life than sitting in front of a screen playing a game. As I speak my PS3 sits in the corner of my table unused and unloved. If I do play a game on it anytime soon it'll be GT5 but even then I won't be playing it until early to late January 'cause of trips abroad and January exams.

I do like to think that there's more to gain from old games, and I'm not talking pong, [B]I'm talking about the likes of chess. Or, drunken Risk[/B].[/QUOTE]

or dual faded D & D!

140kmph winds here tonight

Do you live atop a mountain?

weather forcasters

always trying to overachieve


...actually live just near enough to em

Still doing this fucking lit review. Been at it all day and it's still not compeltely done.... it's in for tomorrow. Fortunatly everything that's left is pretty much just housekeeping but it's tedious...

Just can't wait to get going with designing the synth properly \m/

flat as a pancake here and it was still blowing like a bastard yesterday. i quite like it, gives me many an opportunity with the double entendres.

[QUOTE=The_Mop;18267876]Still doing this fucking lit review. Been at it all day and it's still not compeltely done.... it's in for tomorrow. Fortunatly everything that's left is pretty much just housekeeping but it's tedious...

Just can't wait to get going with designing the synth properly \m/[/QUOTE]

It's shit ain't it. Obviously lit reviews are important but I want to get my hands dirty with actual recording and composition work rather than just write about what others have done :-\

Yer. Like I was saying - there's a hell of a lot of trade secrets concerning synths today, and they havn't really been the focus of any decent academic research since the 70s...

(I managed to find some pretty cool articles though, one by ARP and one by Oberheim...)

I've had to write mainly about DSP. Which ain't too bad but I've gotta talk about FFT which I just really don't understand properly enough to write about...

Try doing your research on progressive metal! Who the feck writes about progressive metal lol. I've got to find between 90 and 100 sources for this literature review, which annoys me because that [i]can[/i] imply quantity over quality; if I find 70 relevant sources, surely that's better than 70 relevant sources and 30 questionable ones...

Yeah FFT has always escaped me too, I read my friend's thesis on spectral processing. I was none the wiser after reading it unfortunately.


edit: fingersmccoy, this real book is the best thing I've ever bought lol. Had my first session with that sax player today, learnt quite a lot today about chord structure. Only basics really but progess all the same.

Progressive metal? Sorry mate, I do electronic engineering, I don't think that prog's really appropriate... :P

I'm building a synthesizer out of a 68000 microprocessor, using some form of wavetable and possibly digital filters, time-domain effects, e.t.c. Should be interesting. Pretty relieved now because I've got the lit review done... didn't have anywhere near 90 sources, more like 17 :P