[QUOTE=Brad Norris Fan 777;16278131]i know, its crazy how there's bad things and good things in society

:(

it's even crazier that making programs to try and fix those things will put us further in debt and actually cause more issues[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry but you really don't understand how socialized medicine would be run. Societal security is more important then uninhibited profit mongering.

Oh yeah the free market can still exist without medicine being in it.

no it can't.

but regardless, socialized medicine goes against free will, and therefor i'm against it.

edit: i realized how stupid that last portion sounded so i edited it out, i understand, i'm just a little ****ing depressed and not thinking straight at the moment what with my ****ing mom being brought up

gwb has already taken a lot of your rights anyway why not let us liberals take some for once

[QUOTE=Brad Norris Fan 777;16278146]no it can't.

but regardless, socialized medicine goes against free will, and therefor i'm against it.

edit: i realized how stupid that last portion sounded so i edited it out, i understand, i'm just a little ****ing depressed and not thinking straight at the moment what with my ****ing mom being brought up[/QUOTE]

uh i didnt bring your mom up for any other reason that there are lots of really ill people that can't afford treatment, trust me i wasn't trying to rub anything in there so i apologize if i did.

no i understand its just ugh

[QUOTE=Brad Norris Fan 777;16278146]no it can't.

but regardless, socialized medicine goes against free will, and therefor i'm against it.

edit: i realized how stupid that last portion sounded so i edited it out, i understand, i'm just a little ****ing depressed and not thinking straight at the moment what with my ****ing mom being brought up[/QUOTE]

Then get out of society. IF you are unwilling to make a sacrifice for others you should not be partaking in the benefits of society.

im glad socialized medicine has been around as long as society

wait, thats not ****ing part of society, its a new idea that some societies have adopted

[QUOTE=Brad Norris Fan 777;16278163]im glad socialized medicine has been around as long as society

wait, thats not ****ing part of society, its a new idea that some societies have adopted[/QUOTE]

I'm talking about any sort of benefit you get. Financial aid for school, the gov't check you get when the main income earner dies, etc. you better stop taking them because you then would be a leach on society. According to your illogic and shortsightedness. The ability to choose to live should be sustained, no one should be forced to die because of selfish ****s like you.

Private practices aren't going to disappear. You could still pay a premium for treatment from a doctor if you want. Using the free will argument is retarded, you would still have just about every choice you have now, minus many of the inherent flaws and disadvantages to those who suffer under the current system.

why is there serious discussio wtffffff

:facepalm:

memorizing a test >>>>>> learning the material for a test

ps I hate u all

I don't see wht people are opposed to socialized medicine. It will lower costs for those who are paying for it already and help out people who can't get it. It will also no longer need to be part of a companies benefits to employees, so even large corporations are hopping on board. Quality won't go down because everything is controlled by the government and they're not in it to make money, they just want to provide a service.


I love Rage Against the Machine!

[QUOTE=Kingofdudes;16278210]memorizing a test >>>>>> learning the material for a test[/QUOTE]
tru

Guys, Australia's had public health since we were formed, and I think the fact that Australians are like 100000000% more well liked than Americans speaks for itself.

jason have you read my post in the comp-thread?

/goes to bed, good night girls!

night dude

Mappy, which part of PA are you in? I was in your neck of the woods yesterday I think.

lehigh valley

where was you been?

Fleetwood.

oh word, thats out past topton and breinigsville, me and my friends go up to that area on burn rides

It was definitely the middle of nowhere haha

yeah, that's why we go up to that area to smoke, it's beautiful out there imo

it's more populated if you go a little east and hit like, allentown/salisbury/emmaus, which is where i live

Do you know the band Beaten Down Mary?

ive heard the name, i dont remember them though

Oh okay, they were from Allentown and I was smoking bowlz with them in the parking lot.

oh lord, theyre bad lol

but they hang out with duda so they might be cool

Have you guys heard of Neurosis? They are super underground, and I am their only fan.

[QUOTE=Brad Norris Fan 777;16278406]oh lord, theyre bad lol

but they hang out with duda so they might be cool[/QUOTE]

lol yeah not the greatest. but they were pretty chill

so like, most bands from my area lool

[quote=gtrguy]The ability to choose to live should be sustained, no one should be forced to die because of selfish ****s like you.[/quote]

Like I said, "omg you're a terrible person"

[quote]Quality won't go down because everything is controlled by the government[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE=pate;16278570]Like I said, "omg you're a terrible person"[/QUOTE]

meh, You really don't have to worry about socialized medicine, tbh. I don't think it'll happen anytime soon, if it were too happen.

I feel like I'm about to throw up.

Sup bros.

nm chilling drinking some PBR supwitu

I'm gonna smoke a bowl and play Half Life 2.

Sounds like an elite life.

My bowl has swastikas on it, so it's pretty elite.

lol, you're way cool dude.

i think when i get a paycheck i am going to purchase a gas mask


wasting money ftw