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Shred Danson 05-20-2005 02:29 PM

[QUOTE=CemetaryGates9]Don't have enough money. I jumped a ramp on my dad's bike and I'll have to pay for repairs.[/QUOTE]

Your mom will pay for repairs.

I'm on fire today.

NP: Destroy Destroy Destroy- Hellfire

Illmatic 05-20-2005 02:36 PM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Illmatic - maybe Bush just hasn't been as bad yet. Or maybe the fact that that revolution in culture occurred then has made it less likely to happen now, because we still have something like that having happened in living memory. And I think the word you were looking for is complacency, though I'm not sure.[/QUOTE]

No, Bush is most certainly seen as bad. Most of this country hates him (don't be fooled by the election; Most of the people who hate him weren't old enough to vote, which could be a sign of hope).

I think another main reason that nothing has happened is because the revolution in the late-60's also stemmed from breaking away from the 50's and the early 60's, which was an ultra-conservative and uptight time period (culturally) in American history. With the advent of the internet and MTV and such, I think that it's not so much the case anymore (but I could be mistaken there).

NP: NIN - All The Love In the World

EDIT: I also think a lot of Europeans (not Bartender or Jelle, or a lot of other Europeans here) need to take a long hard look in the f[size=2]ucking mirror[/size]. Nothing I hate more than to see Europeans who hate Americans for being obnoxiously self-righteous and ignorant prove that the center of all progressive thinking and tolerance is in Europe by ignorantly bashing all Americans and anything that is American.

EDIT 2: And just so someone will reply to this, "lol sup guys? YOUR MOM"

Dancin' Man 05-20-2005 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=ArrestThisMan]Digitech RP 100 \m/

:lol: I really hate that thing[/QUOTE]

I rock the RP200 but haven't used it in months because the adapter died. I just got a new adapter but have yet to even take it out of the box. I like my single effects much better.


Ray - I understand and am wholeheartedly behind your opinion of Europeans condescendingly bashing Americans. They're goverments are pretty fuc[B][I][/b][/i]ked up as well (German school system = retarded). I was seen as a lunatic when I told some Germans last month that everything bad about American politics can't possibly be the fault of our president. Europeans should step back and notice that our goverment has been around for over 200 years so we must be doing something right.

CemetaryGates9 05-20-2005 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]Your mom will pay for repairs.



[/QUOTE]
Actually, I'm trying to get her to

Illmatic 05-20-2005 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]
Ray - I understand and am wholeheartedly behind your opinion of Europeans condescendingly bashing Americans. They're goverments are pretty fuc[B][I][/b][/i]ked up as well (German school system = retarded). I was seen as a lunatic when I told some Germans last month that everything bad about American politics can't possibly be the fault of our president. Europeans should step back and notice that our goverment has been around for over 200 years so we must be doing something right.[/QUOTE]

It just pisses me off when Europeans prove that they're more open-minded than the Americans they are supposedly superior to by saying bullsh[size=2]it like "I hate Americans", "If I see an American, I'll kick their a[/size]ss", "Americans better lay low if they come to [home country]"

It's f[size=2]ucking retarded[/size]. They are clearly just using stereotypes as well as operating under the puzzling assumption that everyone in America is a diehard Christian flag-waving Bush-supporter.

NP: The Rolling Stones - Midnight Rambler

ATM 05-20-2005 03:31 PM

You are preaching to the choir, Ray. Nothing annoyed me more while living overseas, as having to defend my country 24/7.

Dancin' Man 05-20-2005 03:39 PM

I'm getting excited about going to prom. Granted I was kind of opposed to the idea until late last night yesterday, but now that I have the tickets, and a date I'm kinda digging the idea. Especially because only one person from my school knows I'm going. I better get to use my mom's car is all else I can say.

Should I rent a tux or just wear a nice 3 piece suit? I really wanted to get a Kilt but it turns out they are extremely expensive to rent and I'm not on good terms with the only people I know who own kilts (they make and sell kitls and bagpipes for a living)

Illmatic 05-20-2005 03:41 PM

Well, I'm spent. I've gotten out all I've wanted to say.

DM: Your mom's car?

Dude, that's LAME. Limo or bust, man.

Also, I made a mistake: I thought yesterday was the 18th, making today the 19th. So actually there are now only nine days til my girlfriend comes out here.

Dancin' Man 05-20-2005 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Well, I'm spent. I've gotten out all I've wanted to say.

DM: Your mom's car?

Dude, that's LAME. Limo or bust, man.

Also, I made a mistake: I thought yesterday was the 18th, making today the 19th. So actually there are now only nine days til my girlfriend comes out here.[/QUOTE]

No. I love that car. VW Hatchback Jetta TDI with leather seats and a beautiful soundsystem. It not only is better than my car in everyway, but is much prettier and more fun to drive. I take any excuse I can to drive it. My car is fine, but a Subaru is lame. Plus she and I are very not limo types (she's an artsy vegan so waste like a limo is not her style. Of course, she has no problem wearing leather or spending a lot of money on clothes and I'm way too cheap for a limo)

Illmatic 05-20-2005 04:03 PM

Sounds just like what happened in the US election.

George Bush was one of the least popular presidents in recent memory (probably since Jimmy Carter in the late-70's, I'd imagine), yet won because the Democrats nominated John Kerry, the one man who makes Al Gore look lively and personable. The most distressing thing about Bush in office is the alarming rise of Fundamentalist Christians who wind up gaining power. I can't even begin to go into how stupid and bigoted these white-trash retards are.

As it is right now, the Democrats don't have their s[size=2]hit together, and the Republicans are as depressing as ever[/size]. And the thought of a third party with any influence is laughable at best.

[QUOTE=DM]she's an artsy vegan[/QUOTE]

Oh NO. I could never even coexist with someone like that.

lunch998 05-20-2005 04:05 PM

Right now as the Bush administration gets more and more conservative, I think some Republicans may be shifting views and becoming more liberal, in a way. For example, the Nuclear Option may help Bush now, but the party could lose support and also it could backfire on them in the future.

Dancin' Man 05-20-2005 04:05 PM

This new business about getting rid of the philibuster in the Senate is quite disturbing because it will give whoever is in control of the senate complete control over federal courts. And that is bad.

[quote=Ray]Oh NO. I could never even coexist with some like that.[/quote]

I have trouble sometimes, more with the vegan side of things. She's not the artsy type to be covered in paint and have stupid ideas about the world, more she is extremely cultured in the world of the arts. The vegan is tough sometimes though. She eats ice cream occasionally but no cheese. She does eat eggs but they're eggs... Her parents are old hippies and they live off of the electric grid and her dad makes baskets for a living. Baskets that he sells at places like Saks Fifth Avenue. It's a strange contrast of modern consumerism and hippy-ness in that family.

NP Behemoth - The Reign ov SHemsu - Hor

Illmatic 05-20-2005 04:07 PM

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]This new business about getting rid of the philibuster in the Senate is quite disturbing because it will give whoever is in control of the senate complete control over federal courts. And that is bad.[/QUOTE]

It most certainly is.

[QUOTE=lunch]Right now as the Bush administration gets more and more conservative, I think some Republicans may be shifting views and becoming more liberal,[/QUOTE]

Well, duh. A radical always alienates the more conservative members of his party.

lunch998 05-20-2005 04:08 PM

Yes, it's ridiculous. And quite scary to think about how the party in power can pass whatever they want.

lunch998 05-20-2005 04:09 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Well, duh. A radical always alienates the more conservative members of his party.[/QUOTE]

I meant to an extent that the Democrats could be in much better shape in future elections.

Illmatic 05-20-2005 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=DM]I have trouble sometimes, more with the vegan side of things. She's not the artsy type to be covered in paint and have stupid ideas about the world, more she is extremely cultured in the world of the arts. The vegan is tough sometimes though. She eats ice cream occasionally but no cheese. She does eat eggs but they're eggs... Her parents are old hippies and they live off of the electric grid and her dad makes baskets for a living. Baskets that he sells at places like Saks Fifth Avenue. It's a strange contrast of modern consumerism and hippy-ness in that family.[/QUOTE]

Oh, so they're hypocrites? My gf's family may be cold-blooded baby-eating capitalists ( :p ) but at least they're forward with their intentions.

[QUOTE=lunch]I meant to an extent that the Democrats could be in much better shape in future elections.[/QUOTE]

Depends on who they nominate.

lunch998 05-20-2005 04:14 PM

[QUOTE]Depends on who they nominate.[/QUOTE]

Well yea, they aren't going to go from being conservative to supporting any liberal candidate.

As long as it's not Hillary Clinton, Democrats have a good chance.

Illmatic 05-20-2005 04:17 PM

Other than Hilary Clinton, who is the clear-cut canidate to be the Dem. nominee?

It's as I said, they don't have their sh[size=2]it together[/size].

They need to nominate someone from the south.

1964 nominee: Lyndon Johnson (Texas) = win
1968 nominee: Hubert Humphrey (Minnesota) = loss
1972 nominee: George McGovern (South Dakota) = loss
1976 nominee: Jimmy Carter (Georgia) = win
1980 nominee: Carter = loss (only exception, and extenuating circumstances; the country was in TERRIBLE shape in 1980)
1984 nominee: Walter Mondale (Minnesota) = loss
1988 nominee: Michael Dukakis (Massachusetts) = loss
1992 nominee: Bill Clinton (Arkansas) = win
1996 nominee: Clinton = win
2000 nominee: Al Gore (Tennessee) = won popular vote
2004 nominee: John Kerry (Massachusetts) = loss

JFK in 1960 is the last northern Dem to win the election

Dancin' Man 05-20-2005 04:36 PM

Barak Obama seems to be another potential candidate. The Dems will have their work cut out for them nominating either a woman or a minority. I'll be 18 then and able to vote but I live in NY and plan on going to college in NY too so my vote will be less than earth shaking.

Also, Humphrey was put at an unfair advantage after Johnson's abysmal term.

Illmatic 05-20-2005 04:40 PM

Obama is way too young and inexperienced to even think about running in 2008.

lunch998 05-20-2005 05:00 PM

Well this is fantastic. The volume key no longer works on my Creative Zen Player. Which might not have been a big deal if the volume wasn't at zero. So now it doesn't play because I can't turn it up.

Dancin' Man 05-20-2005 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Obama is way too young and inexperienced to even think about running in 2008.[/QUOTE]

JFK was younger and had not much more political experience.

Captain Jack Sparrow 05-20-2005 05:51 PM

Mmm, fresh coffee.

[quote=Dancin' Man]JFK was younger and had not much more political experience.[/quote]

He was enthusiastic though and had a strong political plan for everyone, young and old. Nowadays we're lucky if even two articles off the "if I get elected speech" are accomplished.

Dancin' Man 05-20-2005 06:04 PM

True, but I was just adding a bit of support. Plus, there's always hope.

Anyway, you have communist e-paraphenalia so your political comments are void. ;)

Captain Jack Sparrow 05-20-2005 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]True, but I was just adding a bit of support. Plus, there's always hope.

Anyway, you have communist e-paraphenalia so your political comments are void. ;)[/QUOTE]

Pfft, just because I don't support either party doesn't mean I can't comment. I should kill you.

:-*

ATM 05-20-2005 06:50 PM

I'm not right wing.
I'm not left wing.
I'm a middle finger.

Dancin' Man 05-20-2005 07:25 PM

That reminds me of one of those special handshake things....


Up high
Down low
out in space
INYOFACE!HAHH!H!HHH!HHHAH!HA!AA!HAH!HAH!HAH!HAH!HA!!!1hq

RiceMonster 05-20-2005 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=Dancin' Man]That reminds me of one of those special handshake things....


Up high
Down low
out in space
INYOFACE!HAHH!H!HHH!HHHAH!HA!AA!HAH!HAH!HAH!HAH!HA!!!1hq[/QUOTE]
Haha, now that you point that out, I noticed that too.

Edit: Bah, this avatar is too dark. You can hardly see the picture

Woodstock 05-20-2005 07:26 PM

This is the new thing:

Say "Alpha" "Kenny" "One" three times fast.

lunch998 05-20-2005 07:27 PM

The new thing for 5th graders maybe. I'm not up to times on their new jokes.


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