I've seen the video of 'the writing of TOT' and like, they finish writing just like [i]that[/i]. Suddenly Mike just goes "that's it"..... "we've finished. We've finished writing. Hmmm."

Took them almost exactly 3 weeks or something.

anyone know a story behind the symbol for dream theater? such as who made it, why they chose that or any info?

Charlie Domonici (sp?) made it.
It was the Majesty symbol but when DT changed their name they kept it.

Yeah, it still fits...it's seems made of D M T...

[QUOTE=Element of LED 435]anyone know a story behind the symbol for dream theater? such as who made it, why they chose that or any info?[/QUOTE]
It's based on a mark used by Mary Queen of Scots. They decided to use it because it had a M in it (for Majesty).
[url]http://www.dtfaq.com/attachments/mary_queen_of_scots.gif[/url]

It's a cool mark.

[QUOTE=nowitzki]It's based on a mark used by Mary Queen of Scots. They decided to use it because it had a M in it (for Majesty).
[url]http://www.dtfaq.com/attachments/mary_queen_of_scots.gif[/url][/QUOTE]
I wasn't too far off :p

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion]:smoke:

I wonder if we could get Portnoy to join us on the Stonerbus?[/QUOTE]
Haha, I got that impression of him tbh..

I just realized how good Endless Sacrifice is...aside from the chorus riff. :p

Yhe whole song is sweet, actually the whole cd, probably my 2nd or 3th favorite DT cd.
But nothing can top Images & Words

I should probably listen to that...this guitarist in my theory class is bitching about me listening to it because I can't get past Pull Me Under. I CAN'T STAND IT!

Try Take the Time, that's my favourite.

you CANT stand 'Pull Me Under'? although ill admit that I&W is probably the least favourite of their albums that i own... but it still rules nonetheless... but back on topic... 'Pull Me Under' is an awesome song... what faults do you find in it?

it might be the repetitiveness (sp?)
But I think it's an awesome song really.
Only the ending it's still so annoying, esp. when airdrumming to it, and all of the sudden it stops and I feel stupid :(

Metropolis Pt. 1, Learning to Live and Take the Time are all better songs than PMU from I&W.

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True, but that doesn't mean PMU is bad in any way.
But the three songs you mentioned are the best of the album.
Under A Glass Moon gets an honourable mention too.

SF, I didn't like PMU much myself when I first heard it either. Now I love it.

Dont get me wrong, i think the whole album is great... but yeah my top three (in no real order) 'Pull Me Under', 'Metropolis', 'Wait for Sleep'(yes, im strange)... but the sudden ending in 'Pull Me Under' has a meaning...

I know about the meaning of PMU, but still it's annoying.

It would be annoying to die all of the sudden, but to have a track stop all of the sudden is not cool as well :p

Surrounded and Learning to live are my favourites.

Wait for sleep is magnificent.

Ill admit it caught me by surprise the first time... but yeah... you get used to it... just learn the intro to 'Another Day', that way you get to keep going after it ends... :)

Take The Time seriously owns all on I&W, especially after the 2nd(?) chorus when theres all that crazy instrumental stuff + when JLB is all like: 'Oooo'.

I think SFAM is still my favourite DT album.

SFAM and ToT are pretty even imo... they are both equal first position... however i do not own all their albums... yet... :)

IMO I&W is probably their best to date. PMU is sick, that's the first DT song i ever heard.
The intro is just... oooohh I can't explain it, I love it.
There is not one mediocre song on that album they are all superb.

[QUOTE=ThunderBass]you CANT stand 'Pull Me Under'? although ill admit that I&W is probably the least favourite of their albums that i own... but it still rules nonetheless... but back on topic... 'Pull Me Under' is an awesome song... what faults do you find in it?[/QUOTE]

I dunno...I don't like the riffing in it much, the acoustic part in the beginning pisses me off to no avail, and the chorus is extremely irritating.

[QUOTE=the2stranger]it might be the repetitiveness (sp?)
But I think it's an awesome song really.
Only the ending it's still so annoying, esp. when airdrumming to it, and all of the sudden it stops and I feel stupid :([/QUOTE]
its one of the few DT songs that has a chorus along with another day.... just the two that came to me

[QUOTE=Element of LED 435]its one of the few DT songs that has a chorus along with another day.... just the two that came to me[/QUOTE]

Endless Sacrifice, Home (its got a chorus melody, but the lyrics change), 6:00, Scarred, Lifting Shadows off a Dream, and tons of other DT songs actually have choruses...

I'm really digging Innocence Faded right now.

Im trying to learn Octavaium on the guitar. It really isnt a hard song to play, there is just soo much to remember.

[QUOTE=temporary]Endless Sacrifice, Home (its got a chorus melody, but the lyrics change), 6:00, Scarred, Lifting Shadows off a Dream, and tons of other DT songs actually have choruses...

I'm really digging Innocence Faded right now.[/QUOTE]
well i mean alot of their songs dont either which i think is awesome because it wont get repetitive and plain which the chorus of pull me under(besides when they play it live) can get bland but i mean i just love DT no matter what they do