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Ethan. 06-01-2005 07:44 AM

What would be the best ride for under $150? I don't want anything that sounds like the Sabian AA Medium ride (I don't know how to describe the sounds very well.) I like the HHX rides... but they cost a lot. Any cheaper alternatives?

Der Meister 06-01-2005 08:03 AM

[QUOTE=PAF]
Just a few questions. Do thick cymbals last longer than thin? I mean, are they less susceptible to cracking, or is there no difference?
[/QUOTE]

In a way yes, in a way no.

Yes: they're thicker so it would be harder to crack it from normal playing

No: with it being a thicker cymbal you have to hit it harder to get a more musical sound out it (generally crashes) so more chance of cracking

Drazinus 06-01-2005 09:04 AM

Ok, I'm looking for a crash, a ride, or a crash/ride, that has really good stick definition when you ride on it, and really nice punch and moderate amount of decat when crashed. Preferably from the Big Three, as they are easiest to get around here.

Thanks,

[-Draz-]

bobby__johnny 06-01-2005 01:43 PM

Crash - AA Medium Crash...in the nrighbourhood of 17"

ride - AA Rock Ride.

the secret robot 06-01-2005 09:57 PM

Thanks, GC is holding one for me, 22" for $160

Fabrizzio 06-02-2005 12:56 AM

Im looking for some new hats and im thinking either Sabian or Meinl. Particularly the Meinl Amun Hats has anyone tried these?

NCDrummer 06-03-2005 01:14 PM

I want 16' Crash and a 20' Ride that has a dark sound but loud....so it's good for playing rock or punk...something very versital...and the Crash dis-a-pate quickly

NCDrummer 06-03-2005 01:17 PM

P.S.

That isn't too expensive...i'm on a tight buget :rolleyes:

Dave*Grohl 06-03-2005 01:26 PM

[QUOTE=NCDrummer]P.S.

That isn't too expensive...i'm on a tight buget :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Sorry man.

NCDrummer 06-03-2005 01:34 PM

nothing? thanks though.....hey! wait a minute! your not Dave Grohl! unless you changed your name so it'd be "Dave Grohl".......but alas! the world may never no....

Seafroggys 06-03-2005 11:36 PM

^^^I honestly don't know what to make out of that....I don't know what sort of emoticon I should put either....the laughing one, the rolling eyes, the shocked, the confused....oy vei.

bobby__johnny 06-04-2005 05:12 PM

:rolleyes: suits it fine.

drummerdude9574 06-04-2005 07:14 PM

a ride thats not really loud has extreamely great stick defination like the K heavy ride but doesnt have that long ringing afterwords anyone know of one?

Iskandar 06-04-2005 09:02 PM

AAX Dry Ride.

Jezen 06-05-2005 08:07 AM

[QUOTE=drummerdude9574]a ride thats not really loud has extreamely great stick defination like the K heavy ride but doesnt have that long ringing afterwords anyone know of one?[/QUOTE]

Istanbul Agop Custom Dry Ride.

boss 06-05-2005 04:42 PM

a medium sized crash that doesnt have a long sustain and would sound the best after both a tom roll and with playing your hats open
preferably 17/18"

bobby__johnny 06-05-2005 06:39 PM

i'll tell ya right now, if your looking for not a lot of sustain, a smaller cymbal is the way to go.

16" AA Medium-thin or Medium Crash is the way to go.

Murd_666 06-05-2005 08:01 PM

Try a 16" A custom/K custom fast crash or a 16/17" Meinl Raker Lightning crash

rockindrummer 06-05-2005 09:26 PM

Ok so here's the deal I'm buying a new ride in a week or two and I need some advice. I have looked in to the Paiste Sig Dry and Paiste Sig full rides both in 20". Now they both sound amazing but which one do you think will be better for rock and alternative music but still have the capabilities of playing other styles of music. Thanks for any of the advice in advance.

Harrow 06-06-2005 12:01 AM

Hey I just checked out wuhan chinas on musiciansfriend.com, and they only sell up to the 22" model, I know I saw someone post before that they make up to 26" chinas, so where can I order those? :O

Shu 06-06-2005 05:03 AM

mmmk.. here we go

ive chosen some HHX 13" Groove Hats

I want a ride, reallly pingy but abit of overtones an its loud enough to cut. I was lookin at the HH Raw Bell dry ride an the also the Paragon ride. An the K Custom dry ride, but i got no idea soo yeah..

Also some crashes, something like the k cus fast crashes or something, crashes with short sustain with abit of punch not tooo bright, preferably larger sizes aswell.

Murd_666 06-06-2005 06:09 AM

shu-Try The AAX dry ride or an AAX metal ride. I'd thing a K fast crash would be the way to go but if you want something really punchy look into the AAXplosion crash.

Futuro 06-06-2005 12:49 PM

[QUOTE=rockindrumer]Ok so here's the deal I'm buying a new ride in a week or two and I need some advice. I have looked in to the Paiste Sig Dry and Paiste Sig full rides both in 20". Now they both sound amazing but which one do you think will be better for rock and alternative music but still have the capabilities of playing other styles of music. Thanks for any of the advice in advance.[/QUOTE]

i own the paiste signature dry cymbal, its pretty versitile but the full ride cuts more so you should probably go with that

Seafroggys 06-06-2005 01:03 PM

How would the 2002 crash mix with Istanbuls, Zildjians, and Sabians? I know Paiste's style is different, but I really want the 2002 but I don't want it to clash with everything else I have.

Jezen 06-06-2005 01:11 PM

I wouldn't do it. Even if I wasn't a major brand whore, I wouldn't do it just because the sound palettes are completely different.

MetalDrummer777 06-06-2005 04:27 PM

I want a 18" or 17" symbol thats reasonably priced, and its a great metal symbol, and has a great sound to it.

P.S. I already have an Sabian AA Metal-X 17" Crash, which i like, but im looking for another of any type from any company, which is basicly a metal or hard rock symbol.

Thanks

bobby__johnny 06-06-2005 04:47 PM

well, cant go wrong with the AA Medium Crash....its a very good all around [b][u]CYMBAL[/b][/u]

probably in the neighbourhood of 18".

rockindrummer 06-06-2005 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]i own the paiste signature dry cymbal, its pretty versitile but the full ride cuts more so you should probably go with that[/QUOTE]

Thanks it sounded the dry ride had more stick definition and that it was louder but I could easly be wrong. Thanks for the help faith, I just which i could try both of them out with my band and then tell for sure which one is better.

Seafroggys 06-06-2005 09:56 PM

[QUOTE=British Boy]I wouldn't do it. Even if I wasn't a major brand whore, I wouldn't do it just because the sound palettes are completely different.[/QUOTE]

Would it be good just for the contrast though? Has anyone else tried to mix Paiste with other brands, if more specifically the 2002, with, say, a Sabian AA Crash and Zildjian A New Beat hats?

Futuro 06-07-2005 01:21 AM

[QUOTE=rockindrumer]Thanks it sounded the dry ride had more stick definition and that it was louder but I could easly be wrong. Thanks for the help faith, I just which i could try both of them out with my band and then tell for sure which one is better.[/QUOTE]

well i wasnt actually only talking volume but the bell and the cymbal itself is higher pitched and natrualy the higher the pitch(to a point) the more it will cut. either cymbal is really good, so no matter which one you choose you will be in good hands.(paiste IMO has the best customer service of any cymbal company, and are the most consistent)

Der Meister 06-07-2005 04:50 AM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Would it be good just for the contrast though? Has anyone else tried to mix Paiste with other brands, if more specifically the 2002, with, say, a Sabian AA Crash and Zildjian A New Beat hats?[/QUOTE]

I use a paiste sig with my K customs and soon with my HHXs :)

I would think the 2002 would go well with the AA

Jezen 06-07-2005 08:16 AM

Indeed it would, but not say, 2002 with K or HHX.

why_so_green_and_lonely? 06-07-2005 11:44 AM

Hey, is £ 100 a good deal for a 18" Sabian HHX evolution crash. I think it might be a bit more than that but its below 200 anyway

chuckdrums 06-07-2005 05:44 PM

cymbal
 
i'm looking for a new crash. i like to play metal. i want to be able ride it for a while but also beable to crash for a single note. it has to be durable and last long

bobby__johnny 06-07-2005 07:53 PM

18" Medium Weight Crsh of some type

chuckdrums 06-07-2005 08:08 PM

thnx

Quagmire 222 06-08-2005 08:58 AM

For my birthday I'm getting a 14" Sabian AAX Studio Crash cymbal. I am going to use it as my secondary crash cymbal.

Anyone reccomend against using such a small size?

boss 06-08-2005 09:53 AM

a bigger size would be more suitable for a secondary crash
i have that cymbal and its pretty bright and punchy
there's nothing wrong with small crashes

an_original_name 06-08-2005 03:44 PM

Quagmire 222, what sort of stuff are you going to be playing with it? i would recomend a larger sized crash too, probably 18".

Plan B. 06-08-2005 03:47 PM

Untill you get two larger sized crashes, I would probably say get at least a 16", it's just more versitile.


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