but he's irrelevant to the dubstep scene

i wouldn't say he's irrelevant; he made it onto the 5 years of hyperdub comp - he's clearly present in the scene, just not a major part of it.

[QUOTE]Agreed but I said, "in a couple of years they'll be more quality north american dubstep than compared to the UK." So while they are indeed playing catch up now, they won't be in due time.[/QUOTE]

by which time there'll be something new and no one will be paying it any attention anymore.

Irrelevant to an irrelevant scene.:confused:

Ok, I should have used an artist along the lines of Excision, Datsik, Triage and DZ.

i find those guys pretty cookie cutter

and datsik is canadian

only us dub I think is really worth mentioning along with top uk artists is starkey

There are a lot of good NA dubstep artists already tbh, but it's already changing and has changed a lot since I got into it 3/4 years ago - and it's uk artists who are doing something new like pariah, james blake and mount kimbie. Nearest equivalent to them would be FaltyDL.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18210631]Oh, the doofus speaks. Flying Lotus does have elements of dubstep and has dubstep centric releases. See: Shhh![/QUOTE]

Or his split with Joker

anyone know the song around the 3:30 mark?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZW3imUFyK8[/url]

[QUOTE=Luc214;18210751]i find those guys pretty cookie cutter

and datsik is canadian

only us dub I think is really worth mentioning along with top uk artists is starkey[/QUOTE]

Oh you're right: datsik is canadian, and therefor can't be counted as a NA band.:lol:


[QUOTE=Deviant.;18211070]Or his split with Joker[/QUOTE]
Ya there is some more too. P.s nice dig.


[QUOTE=2muchket!;18211042]There are a lot of good NA dubstep artists already tbh, but it's already changing and has changed a lot since I got into it 3/4 years ago - and it's uk artists who are doing something new like pariah, james blake and mount kimbie. Nearest equivalent to them would be FaltyDL.[/QUOTE]

For now, yes, but all of those artists are distancing themselves from the dubstep genre. And the UK is also killing the genre with Rusko, Katyb and whoever. NA dubber will most likely stay loyal to the genre and overtake the UK in a few years while more and more musicians, like the ones you mention, will continue to branch off and become something new.

In recent memory especially with electronic genres I can find examples to contradict you hnd.

The only house artist from NA really relevant and truly excellent is deadmau5, the rest are all lagging behind the french electro house artists. Especially sebastian.

Same thing with trip hop, dominated by british artists, only artist that really came close was DJ Shadow on Endtroducing.

EDIT: Rusko's finding an audience further afield now though, he'll be influencing more artists as he gets bigger in NA so I wouldn't be so sure on that. Pretty preposterous notion that the NA scene is the least likely to become generic and mainstream though. In fact it's pretty fucking stupid thing to say.

Please remember I'm referring specifically to the UK in correlation to NA.

There are many NA electro/house acts that are relevant: MSTRKRFT, Steve Aoki (ugh), Drop The Lime and Armand Van Helden; those are just some of the popular ones. But ya, NA is always gonna lag behind French and Italian Electro.

Trip Hop is dominated by british artists similar cause very of it's small exposure; no one is really trying to take a stab at it other than people from the UK. It may go the route of dubstep and find a large audience overseas but I think it's gonna stay pretty much confided to the UK.

Frank, idk how you're gonna make it as a lawyer when you can't even analyse someone's argument properly. Maybe you can do paralegal work or something. I didn't purpose the NA scene is the least likely to become generic and mainstream - please try and focus. NA is most likely going to have a larger volume of generic and mainstream dubbers once they overtake the uk in quality volume too; the two correlate most of the time. Deadmau5 is trying his hand at dubstep, he released a pretty good song, so that'll most likely touch people's ears before Rusko ever has the chance. Hopefully.

[quote]The only house artist from NA really relevant and truly excellent is deadmau5,[/quote]

loooooooool

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18211859]Please remember I'm referring specifically to the UK in correlation to NA.

There are many NA electro/house acts that are relevant: MSTRKRFT, Steve Aoki (ugh), Drop The Lime and Armand Van Helden; those are just some of the popular ones. But ya, NA is always gonna lag behind French and Italian Electro.

Trip Hop is dominated by british artists similar cause very of it's small exposure; no one is really trying to take a stab at it other than people from the UK. It may go the route of dubstep and find a large audience overseas but I think it's gonna stay pretty much confided to the UK.

Frank, idk how you're gonna make it as a lawyer when you can't even analyse someone's argument properly. Maybe you can do paralegal work or something. I didn't purpose the NA scene is the least likely to become generic and mainstream - please try and focus. NA is most likely going to have a larger volume of generic and mainstream dubbers once they overtake the uk in quality volume too; the two correlate most of the time. Deadmau5 is trying his hand at dubstep, he released a pretty good song, so that'll most likely touch people's ears before Rusko ever has the chance. Hopefully.[/QUOTE]

trip hop small exposure ? really ?

Other than that I can see what you're getting at, still remains to be seen if in actuality it happens.

Fucking lol at you trying to to infer my advocacy skills are poor, think I made it pretty clear to adb I don't take internet debates or 'arguments' really that seriously. If you want a critical analysis of this subject gimme half a day I'll bash one out.

Well I would but lol taking internet that srs.

Anyway getting away from this bullshit and to stop HnD posturing and make Luc look stupider anyone ever listened to Kingdom ? Some good dubstep with actual decent prominent garage influences.

by the time na start producing dubstep of the quantity/quality hnd is talking about

no one will give a shit about the genre anymore

[QUOTE=2muchket!;18212089]anyone ever listened to Kingdom ? Some good dubstep with actual decent prominent garage influences.[/QUOTE]

super yes. him and Girl Unit have been making waves lately with that Night Slugs hybrid sound. speaking of NS, next up on their catalogue: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQi8FSRmVTc[/url] gonna be nuts

[QUOTE=Wish;18212090][url]http://www.getdarker.com/audio/dubplates/Joker--TC-Aint-Got-A-Name/[/url]

You're welcome/no problem etc[/QUOTE]
thanks, I should of known it was something of Joker's

[QUOTE=Happymeal;18212506]super yes. him and Girl Unit have been making waves lately with that Night Slugs hybrid sound. speaking of NS, next up on their catalogue: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQi8FSRmVTc[/url] gonna be nuts[/QUOTE]

yeah I downloaded Girl Unit's IRL ep at the same time haven't listened yet though

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18211811]Oh you're right: datsik is canadian, and therefor can't be counted as a NA band.:lol:


[/QUOTE]

originally we were talking US faggot

Point out where we were referring strictly to the US and I'll give you a cookie.

If you can't, please gtfo, before your stupidity rubs off on ppl like Frankie even more.

Impressed with Girl Unit as well, have to pay more attention to Night Slugs from now on.

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18209325]There's tons of good american dubstep[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18209325]american dubstep[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HighandDriving;18209325][size=9]american dubstep[/size][/QUOTE]

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[B][I][U]in a couple of years they'll be more quality north american dubstep than compared to the UK.[/U][/I][/B]


GTFO:thumb:

get at me

stop gaying up the thread fucks sake

i want new vaski and tomba god dammit

New Vaski ain't nothing special, though that electro remix is a guilty pleasure

new vaski is out

it's not as good as terror dome tho

ah fuck.

I just have to say that the argument a couple of pages ago was pretty lol

and the new vaski is really mediocre

not like old vaski is amazing tho

[QUOTE=Txus;18214796]I just have to say that the argument a couple of pages ago was pretty lol
[/quote]

yeah hnd is really easy to troll

Chrispy really does it for me lately. i love his remixes :).