[QUOTE=badtaste]I take my post back. They stopped making good music after 6DOIT (The Glass Prison kicks ***).

Listen to yourselves, people! Dream Theater do make crappy songs. To say that all their work kicks ***, is being arrogant.

"I walk beside you" sucked. Octavarium could have been better (The bloody song isn't a whole song - it's a series of songs put together. Compare it to ACOS). They're not even progressing any more, all their songs are metally now.[/QUOTE]


Its all opinion. I personally like "I walk beside you" and "Octavarium."

i walk beside you is great. it grows on you. used to hate it as well.

and if octavarium is a string of songs....so is ACOS. on a broader scale, octavarium ties togehter the whole ALBUM instead of within the frame of the song like ACOS does.

only DT song i detest: lines in the sand. everything else is fair game :]
they're the ONLY band in my entire music-listening career so far that i have been unable to switch out a CD for weeks on end

yeah i love both those songs, and i think they still are made good music after 6DOIT it's just in a different direction, which IMO is a good thing.
you can't have a band sounding the same their whole career, they would get boring.

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]i walk beside you is great. it grows on you. used to hate it as well.

and if octavarium is a string of songs....so is ACOS. on a broader scale, octavarium ties togehter the whole ALBUM instead of within the frame of the song like ACOS does.

only DT song i detest: lines in the sand. everything else is fair game :]
they're the ONLY band in my entire music-listening career so far that i have been unable to switch out a CD for weeks on end[/QUOTE]

I absolutley LOVE Lines In The Sand!

I really like I walk beside you, too. It's very different...which is what prog is all about, surely? Going in new directions?

[QUOTE=Element of LED 435]no i said i like the intro only like when portnoy starts the drums and it gets faster

the rest of the song besides that sounds cheesy to me at least[/QUOTE]
Oh right, sorry I misread.

The only song of ToT I think is slightly cheesy is Honor Thy Father.

Everyone vote Portnoy now or I'm going to slap you

I already have :smoke:

:smoke:

I wonder if we could get Portnoy to join us on the Stonerbus?

I didn't think any of the DT members ever did drugs.

They don't look like stoners.

Exactly. They all look like they've not touched anything.

Damnit.

I want some stoner conversation with Mikey.

We will get him don't worry.

If they turn to drugs, they lose my respect. But hey, sif they'll ever do that anyway. :P

Gunna give Octavarium another listen now in hope of 'getting into it'.

Maybe drugs will broaden their horizons :eek:

I don't think so.
I think they're all a bit too old to start now.

maybe theyll be like towelie and need some good ideas for a new album so they smoke some weed

but i doubt it as i think all of them are family men

I can't wait to hear a new album. Even though it's not even being recorded yet.

Or written, probably.

even if they start in 2 years they can write an album in 2 weeks

like they did with ToT and it doesnt take much longer to record

Yeah they are amazing.
I mean I was reading the LTE booklets and the albums were written in a week each :eek:

they must not bull**** around like other bands and are good song writers... pathetic how other bands take a year to write an album

A berklee education and a perfect knowledge of music theory does help.
Look at James hetfield. He's admitted to not knowing anything about music, or how to read music. That's why bands like Metallica take a while to write albums.

hmm.... makes me wanna learn theory

It's difficult to grasp at first, but once you're over that hurdle it's not too difficult.

any books you recommend?? i have john petrucci wild stringdom.... which is the closest theory book i have

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]A berklee education and a perfect knowledge of music theory does help.
Look at James hetfield. He's admitted to not knowing anything about music, or how to read music. That's why bands like Metallica take a while to write albums.[/QUOTE]
That's probably why James Hetfield sucks, too.

Wiser words were never spoken :cool:

[QUOTE=Element of LED 435]any books you recommend?? i have john petrucci wild stringdom.... which is the closest theory book i have[/QUOTE]
I used [url]http://www.musictheory.net[/url]

And JH does suck, but when Kirk started helping they got worse.