[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]My sister wants a Apple computer for her birthday.[/QUOTE]

Tell her no. They're wayyy overpriced, unstable, slow, and it's impossible to get into the BIOS to make advanced setting changes. Their only positive is the fact that most viruses don't run on them, however you can stop that from happening on PCs as well by spending an extra $15 on Norton AntiVirus.

PC's FTW

Macs are infinitely better than Windows...

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Macs are infinitely better than Windows...[/QUOTE]

I have an iBook G4 that was issued by my school, and 2 Windows desktops and a Windows laptop at home. I have lots of experience for both, and Windows is superior.

Plus, you can't build Macs :mad: I build PCs for my friends as a way to make some pocket money.

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]Tell her no. They're wayyy overpriced, unstable, slow, and it's impossible to get into the BIOS to make advanced setting changes. Their only positive is the fact that most viruses don't run on them, however you can stop that from happening on PCs as well by spending an extra $15 on Norton AntiVirus.

PC's FTW[/QUOTE]


I told her, but she doenst seem to care. She already has a PC, but she heard that Apple's are better for artisitc purposes and gaming. I don't know if this is true, but that is what she said.

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]I told her, but she doenst seem to care. She already has a PC, but she heard that Apple's are better for artisitc purposes and gaming. I don't know if this is true, but that is what she said.[/QUOTE]

98% of games won't run on Macs. The only art uses they realistically have is Photoshop for photo manipulation and CAD for advanced architectural design. I don't know if your sister wants to be an architect or not...

EDIT: I used to play video games for up to 5 hours a day. Now that I am stuck only with a Mac at school, I am going through withdrawls since no games will run on them, and the few that will run impossibly slow and are horribly laggy.

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]98% of games won't run on Macs. The only art uses they realistically have is Photoshop for photo manipulation and CAD for advanced architectural design. I don't know if your sister wants to be an architect or not...

EDIT: I used to play video games for up to 5 hours a day. Now that I am stuck only with a Mac at school, I am going through withdrawls since no games will run on them, and the few that will run impossibly slow and are horribly laggy.[/QUOTE]


Thanks a lot. You just saved my parents a bunch of money, but Im going to be having a b[I]i[/I]thing hormonal 14 year old sister to deal with.


I have got to go write a paper for my forensics class. Later MX.

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]Thanks a lot. You just saved my parents a bunch of money, but Im going to be having a b[I]i[/I]thing hormonal 14 year old sister to deal with.


I have got to go write a paper for my forensics class. Later MX.[/QUOTE]

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I have to go as well, basketball practice. Goodbye for now, MX. I will finish my fanatical PC vs. Mac rants later.

I really should be revising...

my dad got himself a good laptop for £500 the other day, just from pc world. it's nearly as good as mine, but came without a printer and all that, which is why it was £150 less than mine, which came with printer, norton internet security, wireless router, etc. i can run almost any games on mine though, and i don't have to pay my dad back straight away :).

Ollie - How many modules you got this month?

Four.

Law and English, then two resits of those subjects

ah. i only have 2 modules - geography, which is pretty easy so only a bit of revision needed there, and physics, which needs a lot of revision because i'm gonna fail it.

Man, newer Macs honestly kick the crap out of PCs anyday. PCs are impossibly difficult to use, I think...

True, you can't run a lot of games on them, but the selection you can is pretty decent.

UT2004 demo = excellent. Free, and it gives you all the features of the original sans a few maps and the single player storyline (which nobody plays anyway).

UT2004 is awesome on multiplayer, i haven't played it for ages. i'm tempted to buy it, just for the MP. or do you get all the MP maps in the free demo?

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Yeah. You can't play any games on Macs. Idiots.

And in any case, the above are just the past five years. Reams of classic games have Mac versions as well.

Microsoft just reverse-engineered everything Apple came up with in the first place: the only reason PCs are more commonly used is because of stupid business decisions made by Apple Inc. on how to use their state-of-the-art machine, not because Microsoft is superior. Apple has always been much more innovative than Microsoft. For proof, look at what happens when Apple and Microsoft are actually put on a level playing field: in this case digital music. The iPod and the franchise spawned by it has become a cultural icon of the 21st century in less than a decade and Apple consequently controls about 3/4ths of the whole market for legitimate digital music players and sales: comparable Microsoft-sponsored copycats don't even come close.

If you played any of the above on a PowerMac G5, the results would probably own your life. Microsoft is all about mass-producing a cheap product and liscensing the blueprints to other companies. Apple does everything themselves in the name of quality.

And our computers NEVER crash. I'd say we beat you in a ton of ways, system-wise. The only thing we're lacking is program versatility, but don't be deluded into thinking that it's because Microsoft is better.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future][color=salmon]Man, newer Macs honestly kick the crap out of PCs anyday. PCs are impossibly difficult to use, I think...

True, you can't run a lot of games on them, but the selection you can is pretty decent.[/color][/QUOTE]

sft

The only reason I don't have a Mac is the freaking price.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]PCs are impossibly difficult to use, I think...[/QUOTE]
Do you have a learning disability?

I think a change in subject might be needed

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Do you have a learning disability?[/QUOTE]

I don't think so, I think he just recognizes that PCs are prone to lock themselves up and do all sorts of weird crap seemingly at random that seriously frustrates any layman attempting to use them. This isn't the case for regular PC users, sure, but they're notoriously unintuitive, crash-prone, and temperamental, at least on the cheaper scale. Whereas with Macs, a five-year-old kid could probably know how to use every basic application without screwing up the computer by the end of the week.

[url]http://www.innergeek.us/geek-test.html[/url]
Old I think, but fun
18% for me.

[QUOTE=Cain]I don't think so, I think he just recognizes that PCs are prone to lock themselves up and do all sorts of weird crap seemingly at random that seriously frustrates any layman attempting to use them. This isn't the case for regular PC users, sure, but they're notoriously unintuitive, crash-prone, and temperamental, at least on the cheaper scale. Whereas with Macs, a five-year-old kid could probably know how to use every basic application without screwing up the computer by the end of the week.[/QUOTE]
Dont you think thats just overstating things a tad?

[QUOTE=guitrguy]Dont you think thats just overstating things a tad?[/QUOTE]

Not in the least. It all comes down to how easy the operating system is to figure out for a person who's never come into contact with anything like it before. The Mac OS X user interface clearly beats the latest version of Microsoft on this front. It's just not even up for debate.

[QUOTE=Cain]I don't think so, I think he just recognizes that PCs are prone to lock themselves up and do all sorts of weird crap seemingly at random that seriously frustrates any layman attempting to use them. This isn't the case for regular PC users, sure, but they're notoriously unintuitive, crash-prone, and temperamental, at least on the cheaper scale. Whereas with Macs, a five-year-old kid could probably know how to use every basic application without screwing up the computer by the end of the week.[/QUOTE]
I'm the complete opposite. I have no trouble at all using a PC. I can feel around and work my way through a completely unkown task and manage to do what I need without screwing anything up. Macs, on the other hand, take me a very long time to work with. I always have to stop and figure out the simplest tasks or wonder why the thing is crashing for the millionth time.

[QUOTE=Cain]Not in the least. It all comes down to how easy the operating system is to figure out for a person who's never come into contact with anything like it before. The Mac OS X user interface clearly beats the latest version of Microsoft on this front. It's just not even up for debate.[/QUOTE]
I was just joking around. I have never used Mac so I wouldnt know.

[QUOTE=Josh]UT2004 is awesome on multiplayer, i haven't played it for ages. i'm tempted to buy it, just for the MP. or do you get all the MP maps in the free demo?[/QUOTE]

No, but I've played the full one at my friend's house...you aren't missing much if you just have the demo.

Aside from my computer closing AIM on me at really sporadic intervals (I can't really stand AIM anyway) the thing hasn't crashed since I got it. And that was about a month ago.

My friend's PC, on the other hand, crashes every time I go over there.

In all honesty, Tiger (Mac OS) has an unmissable level of detail and perfection that XP can't touch.

[url]http://www.jengajam.com/r/fainting-goats-video[/url]
This might actually be the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[QUOTE=Lord Abortion][url]http://www.innergeek.us/geek-test.html[/url]
Old I think, but fun
18% for me.[/QUOTE]
12.8% :(

Not to take any sides, but isn't one of the worlds fastest supercomputers powered by 4 of the Mac G5 processors? At least that's what I've heard.

As far as system reliability, cain's got that one right. Macs crash a lot less than windows, if at all. I much prefer gaming on a pc though. For music and internet, go with the mac.

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I'm the complete opposite. I have no trouble at all using a PC. I can feel around and work my way through a completely unkown task and manage to do what I need without screwing anything up. Macs, on the other hand, take me a very long time to work with. I always have to stop and figure out the simplest tasks or wonder why the thing is crashing for the millionth time.[/QUOTE]

What Macs have you used? If your only experience with them is with bottom-of-the-barrel iMacs or eMacs that you'd find in high school, it has to do with the power of the school's master server not being up to adequetely running the machines and their interfaces more than it has to do with the individual power or abilities of the machine itself. School servers, which are cheap to begin with as high schools are often underfunded, often block the user from accomplishing or viewing many of the applications or tasks neccesary to unmake problems, as a way to reduce the risk of students wasting time, hacking the system, or, best of all, enabling something that the old tech guy doesn't know how to fix. This can make working your way through extremely frustrating even for Mac veterans such as myself. It has nothing to do with the actual quality of the Mac interface or the machine.

Now, take the example of college students who take PCs to school and students who take Apples to school. Nearly every single student I know swears by their Apple computer...if they have one. I personally have owned my Powerbook G4 for two and a half years and have never even needed to email tech support. My roommate, however, had a Dell desktop computer of pretty recent make, and he was plagued with problems throughout the year. Getting quit out of AIM at random, papers that wouldn't open up, a DVD application that wouldn't play DVDs, error message after error message for the most basic of functions and no easy way to see what the problem was or to rectify it...I've heard similar tales from other PC users at my campus. All it comes down to is that Macs are more reliable, easy-to-use, and easy to fix without having to pay for additional parts or repairs than PCs are. In general.

Every Mac equivalent to Microsoft applications is also superior, with the possible exception of Word. Internet browsers like Safari move more quickly, are easier to use, and are in general much more nicely constructed than Internet Explorer. Wireless technology comes built into every computer, reducing the need to buy and pay for a specific service from a cable company like Comcast (which is what my mom has to do: if she gets an internet problem, she'll be on the phone with Dell and Comcast all day figuring out what's going on, whereas Macs just use the Airport software right inside the machine and rarely have problems). The DVD player is great, the iPod is better than any of its challengers, and iTunes is a fantastic music player. Speaker systems are cheap and easy to set up for all Mac products. The list goes on. :)

[QUOTE=Ollie]http://www.jengajam.com/r/fainting-goats-video
This might actually be the funniest thing I've ever seen.[/QUOTE]
refl :lol:
Ah, scaring goats with an umbrella.

[QUOTE=Ollie]http://www.innergeek.us/geek-test.html
Old I think, but fun
18% for me.[/QUOTE]
8% :/
Speaking of which, I've been playing a huge amount of Fable lately.

Also, did my enlish lit. and chemistry mocks today. English went so so, and chemistry was fine. Now I just have to do physics tomorrow, and I'm done :-D

NP: Obituary - Bloodsoaked

Edit:
[QUOTE=Cain] and iTunes is a fantastic music player[/QUOTE]
I actually thought its interface was horrible, but there you go. As for Mac-Pc, I've been using this PC reliably without any major issues you've mentioned for almost a year and a half now.

[QUOTE=Cain]/wow this is long[/QUOTE]
I've used a variety of Macs. That's all my schools have ever used, and I've been forced to use everything ranging from the cheapest things to the most recent models.

The only time I had the problems you listed was when the hard drive went bad, and it turned out to it was because it was poorly made hardware (Apple, ironically enough).

Now that I've got a newer hard drive, my Dell works just like you said your Mac does, so I'm fine with it.