well, im off to sleepys

cya gice

Sweet, office 2007 enterprise edition finished piratting. Time to install it.

ewwww... are you a suit?!

ciggarettes would be safer if they made 'em like they did in the 1700's

Speed causes no negative psychological effects.

You have to already have them. It CAN bring them forward.

Heroin is one of the most addictive substances on earth and is often cut with other drugs to heighten the effect.

drugs shattered my life and i never touched em

smart choice young man

^ No, some person choosing to use them did. Drugs on their own have no abbility to do anything. It takes a user.

Everyone uses drugs, from the prescription anti-biotics, to headache medicine, to illegal substances.

Only an brain dead fool would try and argue there is some ethical or moral difference, besides the possible legal implications, of using one drug, such as THC, then another, such as Advil.

[quote=Drum Phil;14361366]Speed causes no negative psychological effects.
[/quote]


Haha man that's so wrong it isn't funny.

[url]http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/282/2/834[/url]

[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=2140952&dopt=Citation[/url]


Just 2 of 100's of research studies done on the effects of meth on the brain.

It destroys DAT function and Dopamine receptors in short.


Being that dopamine is about the most important chemical in your body, and is used in 90% of it's functions.... not the best thing to be messing with.

[QUOTE=Josiah;14361309]Speed, and all of it's dirivitives can be snorted, shot or smoked.


If you are snorting it, you will blow your nose away at a rate almost triple that of snorting cocaine.




Indeed,, nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on earth, as is heroin and coke.

However it should be noted, there have been many studies done, and it proven that Marijuana contains not chemically addictive substance.

It's purely physcological addiction, putting it in a lower class of addiction then even adrenline. (sky diving, roller coasters, etc)[/QUOTE]


hence why i said pot and booze not so much.

and i am also with cork, pot and booze is not a big deal, because you can be a casual user, like me. its the addictive substances that are bad.

Read the full post jos. It doesnt cause them, it can bring forward existing problems that may never have surfaced on their own.

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin1307;14361430]hence why i said pot and booze not so much.

and i am also with cork, pot and booze is not a big deal, because you can be a casual user, like me. its the addictive substances that are bad.[/QUOTE]

Booze and caffeine are both much more addictive then pot (booze doesn't fall within the non-addictive category like pot).

I'm pretty sure the major side effect of speed is explosion of the kitchen. :lol:

Cork: acid once or twice [I]probably[/I] wont do anything, but too much messes your brain up.

this is yet another very subjective topic.

your just getting into heeps of subjective trouble tonight, eh phil?

I always do.

[quote=Drum Phil;14361437]Read the full post jos. It doesnt cause them, it can bring forward existing problems that may never have surfaced on their own.[/quote]

You are totally and absolutely wrong.



Speed destroys dopmaine receptors in the brain. OR better yet, just read hte studies I linked to you.

Going to argue with medical research?

You know how many studies have been done on the effects of meth... 1,000's.


You know what is absolute medical fact? Using meth causes brain damage in several forms.

[QUOTE=Electric Requiem;14361470]Booze and caffeine are both much more addictive then pot (booze doesn't fall within the non-addictive category like pot).

I'm pretty sure the major side effect of speed is explosion of the kitchen. :lol:

Cork: acid once or twice [I]probably[/I] wont do anything, but too much messes your brain up.[/QUOTE]

but it falls under the slight-medium addictiveness scale. it is still mostly up to the user.

Sup guys im gonna live with my best friend yay!

He is finally moving out of his dads house at 20 heehee. Should be fun.

is he moving in with you?

"Long-term amphetamine abuse can induce psychological effects that include insomnia, mental states resembling schizophrenia, aggressiveness (not associated with schizophrenia), addiction or dependence with accompanying withdrawal symptoms, irritability, confusion, and panic. Chronic and/or extensively-continuous use can lead to amphetamine psychosis, which causes delusions and paranoia, but this is uncommon when taken as prescribed. The abuse of an amphetamine is highly-psychologically addictive, and, with chronic abuse, tolerance develops very quickly. Withdrawal is, although not physiologically threatening, an unpleasant experience (including , depression, difficult breathing, dysphoria, gastric fluctuations and/or pain, and lethargia). This commonly leads chronic users to re-dose amphetamine frequently, explaining tolerance and increasing the possibility of addiction."


That is absolutely true medical fact Phil. Do beware of what you do, and don't loose objectivity about it.


My college text book for abnormal pysch deals with drugs, it says almost exactly the same thing about the effects of meth on the brain, except in much longer and more detailed wording.

You can order any college text book online, and read for yourself about these things. The infomation, and all studies, are carefully footnoted and representied so that you can read where the information came fromy ourself, and even what people did what and how they did those studies.

[quote=Josiah;14361493]You are totally and absolutely wrong.



Speed destroys dopmaine receptors in the brain. OR better yet, just read hte studies I linked to you.

Going to argue with medical research?

You know how many studies have been done on the effects of meth... 1,000's.


You know what is absolute medical fact? Using meth causes brain damage in several forms.[/quote]

Jos..... we aint talking about meth.

Methylamphetamine and pure amphetamine are totally different.

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin1307;14361495]but it falls under the slight-medium addictiveness scale. it is still mostly up to the user.[/QUOTE]

Thats the main problem with alcohol and caffeine is that people don't view them as addictive. They are much less addictive, it takes much more to get hooked, but once you're hooked it's still very difficult to quit.

Cigs and alcohol are both MUCH worse for you then pot, but they're legal and pot isn't (in most countries).

irony.

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin1307;14361517]is he moving in with you?[/QUOTE]

Well actually im renting from one of my friends dads right now, but it kinda sucks here TBH. I just stay inside whenever im not working cause its a dirty trailor park and all the nieghbors are like toothless hicks who ride around on go karts lawn mowers golfcarts etc etc....real ugly ****....but its cheap

But my buddy and I are gonna go looking for a nice apt, we have electronic drums and stuff already so it will be pretty hooked up for late night jamming.

[quote=Drum Phil;14361528]Jos..... we aint talking about meth.

Methylamphetamine and pure amphetamine are totally different.[/quote]


Haha no they are not. Same class of drug.. "amphetamine", all amphetamines do the same thing. The only difference is the potency and delivery method.


Again man, this is simple chem stuff... the pre-fix only adjusts a minor part of it. They are by no means totally different, 'amphetamine' is the base chemical. The pre-fix is an addition to it, that effects potency or delivery.

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damnit.

I suck at audacity.

Wow. They said Vinnie Appice's name on tv. I've been saying WAY wrong.

hows it pronounced?

I'm going to be teaching drum lessons at a music store a few days a week starting in the fall. I met with the store owner today and she gave me the job :cool:

Hooray for money and valuable experience and stuff.

Moneyz is good.