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mutant! 09-18-2006 07:02 AM

[QUOTE=Inkstar;13281548]Now all you have to do is put out the same respect for the other 3. :P[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, true. It really is painful for me to listen to their music - I just can't identify with it on any level, emotional or musical - but I'll give it a shot, paying specific attention to the rest of the band. I only have Scenes From A Memory...

Inkstar 09-18-2006 07:24 AM

[QUOTE=mutant!;13281667]Hahaha, true. It really is painful for me to listen to their music - I just can't identify with it on any level, emotional or musical - but I'll give it a shot, paying specific attention to the rest of the band. I only have Scenes From A Memory...[/QUOTE]

Check out Images & Words. Some great stuff on there. Also, 'Take Away My Pain' is about the death of JP's father, so if you want an emotional level that one's a great song. Very nice to listen to. :)

ghettoeddo 09-18-2006 07:36 PM

[QUOTE=mutant!;13280969]I would just like to refute any statements I have ever made against Jordan Rudess. He is insanely good. Same goes for John Petrucci.

I still hate DT's music though.[/QUOTE]

completely respectable and understandable brotha

eug008 09-19-2006 01:51 AM

Portnoys respnsose to the comments Mastodon made about them.

[url]http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=58627[/url]

Clunge 09-19-2006 05:32 AM

I am ADDICTED to Misunderstood at the mo.

It's just... massive.

Inkstar 09-19-2006 06:37 AM

[QUOTE=eug008;13287742]Portnoys respnsose to the comments Mastodon made about them.

[url]http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=58627[/url][/QUOTE]

So behind on the times dude. :P That was SO like 2, 3 weeks ago.

FINALLY got my DVD today and damn it is AWESOME.

kthx.

eug008 09-19-2006 08:01 AM

ofuk.

Wait since when was that posted here?

Chu 09-19-2006 08:21 AM

It wasn't posted here, it's on been on MP's forums.

Jev 09-19-2006 10:18 AM

Dream Theater never get angry...
They're not human.

ghettoeddo 09-19-2006 02:13 PM

haha cuz DT knows they kick the **** outta mastodon.
thank god for portnoy being mature

and yea misunderstood is godly. one of my favorite songs ever

Altmer 09-19-2006 02:27 PM

forgive me but I don't even know who Mastodon are

But I do know that DT kicks their *** anyway, whoever they are, because DT can act mature.

I actually think a lot of DT songs are quite coherent. The problem is there aren't enough of them to make an album coherent usually (barring SFAM and I&W imo).

That's why I think most stuff they release is just hard to get into; the songs sometimes don't make any sense.

Singing is a good thing in metal, but LaBrie can be iffy live...so I don't know where Mastodon get their opera comment from, because LaBrie is no Turunen... by any means.

eug008 09-19-2006 05:33 PM

You heard LaBrie on their new Live CD/DVD yet? He's pretty ace.

Atica 09-19-2006 07:37 PM

He sings preety good in the new DVD. Score si so ****ing awesome and the orchesta made an amazing work.

ghettoeddo 09-19-2006 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=Atica;13291605]He sings preety good in the new DVD. Score si so ****ing awesome and the orchesta made an amazing work.[/QUOTE]

the orchestra was acctually what disappointed me the most...don't get me wrong i thought it was fantastic but it was a little out of tune at times. especially in 6 degrees...and the pizzicato for vacant was not a tasteful choice.

still much better than metallica's S&M or something because they knew when to stay out and the orchestration was overall better. kudos for putting that all together in the amount of time they had

eighty d 09-19-2006 08:16 PM

It's the tuning that bothers me most with the orchestra. And the fact that it's really string-dominated. IMO War Inside My Head NEEDED a powerful horn section, and it just wasn't there. The orchestra sounded aweful in that section actually.

Still an amazing performance as a whole. All the members of DT were spot on from what I've heard (only listened a couple times).

Lionheart1827 09-19-2006 08:54 PM

The only thing that bothers me about the dvd is not having 6 degrees split up in chapters. The reason why it bothers me is because my dvd player is my PS2, and anyone who uses the PS2 for dvds knows that the fast forward and rewind feature is SO SLOW. If I had a dvd player that had multiple fast forward speeds it wouldnt bother me. Thats my only gripe, and it only bothers me because the ps2 sucks for fast forwarding.:thumb:

ghettoeddo 09-19-2006 11:07 PM

yea that feature kinda stunk even though it's supposed to be one song.
classical symphonies are broken into different movements even though they're all considered to be part of the whole, and identified as the whole.

...nevermind.

Inkstar 09-20-2006 05:43 AM

I think complaining about SCORE is an example of being one of the 'Never Enough' people.

Cmon guys.. It's awesome enough to have DT play at Radio City and record another dvd so soon... but to do it with an Orchestra?? I think that deserves a little recognition. Sure, they were a bit out of tune at times, but as if that matters - the fact that they got an orchestra together and arranged music of such difficulty is mind-blowing enough!

For the record, DT only got to rehearse with the orchestra ONCE - and that was the DAY BEFORE the show. Also, they didn't have the idea to record a DVD or get an Orchestra until half way through the Octavarium tour.

Oh, and JP had a cold on the night of the performance and STILL played flawlessly. Give them some slack. They couldn't have done it any better.

psychedelic_liam 09-20-2006 05:51 AM

[QUOTE=the2stranger;5436247]couldn't resist, great band, love them

images and words is my fav by them


does anyone have the train of thought live cd?

I think it's cool, although James holds back a bit too much with singing, maybe to safe his voice?

good nontheless[/QUOTE]

I have a couple of songs from the Album, not the actual album though

GenuineImitation 09-20-2006 09:32 AM

[QUOTE=psychedelic_liam;13293742]I have a couple of songs from the Album, not the actual album though[/QUOTE]


:lol: you quoted a post from November 2004.

Anyway, I think I watched Score for the 10th time last night.

ghettoeddo 09-20-2006 09:36 AM

[QUOTE=Inkstar;13293732]I think complaining about SCORE is an example of being one of the 'Never Enough' people.

Cmon guys.. It's awesome enough to have DT play at Radio City and record another dvd so soon... but to do it with an Orchestra?? I think that deserves a little recognition. Sure, they were a bit out of tune at times, but as if that matters - the fact that they got an orchestra together and arranged music of such difficulty is mind-blowing enough!

For the record, DT only got to rehearse with the orchestra ONCE - and that was the DAY BEFORE the show. Also, they didn't have the idea to record a DVD or get an Orchestra until half way through the Octavarium tour.

Oh, and JP had a cold on the night of the performance and STILL played flawlessly. Give them some slack. They couldn't have done it any better.[/QUOTE]


uh i've acknowledged it as the best live DVD i've ever seen even out of DT's collection.
nothing is ever going to be perfect. it's a damn good DVD but i was just voicing my opinion on what could've been better

Duman 09-20-2006 09:40 AM

[QUOTE=Lionheart1827;13292109]The only thing that bothers me about the dvd is not having 6 degrees split up in chapters. The reason why it bothers me is because my dvd player is my PS2, and anyone who uses the PS2 for dvds knows that the fast forward and rewind feature is SO SLOW. If I had a dvd player that had multiple fast forward speeds it wouldnt bother me. Thats my only gripe, and it only bothers me because the ps2 sucks for fast forwarding.:thumb:[/QUOTE]

Believe it or not but I was just getting pissed off 5 minutes ago about this.

bwnstl 09-20-2006 09:49 AM

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation;13294240]:lol: you quoted a post from November 2004.

Anyway, I think I watched Score for the 10th time last night.[/QUOTE]

Does the DVD hold more significance to you that you were there? I.e. is it more fun to watch?

GenuineImitation 09-20-2006 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=bwnstl;13294316]Does the DVD hold more significance to you that you were there? I.e. is it more fun to watch?[/QUOTE]

Yes, it really makes a big difference. I love all their DVD's, but I couldnt watch any of them in their entirety 10 times in one month. With Score I can do that, not becuase I like the song selection better than any other DVD, but because I love reliving the experience of my first concert.

Its like having sex for the first time and it being recorded for your viewing pleasures later on in life.

Jev 09-20-2006 10:33 AM

That sounds quite creepy...

GenuineImitation 09-20-2006 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=Happy;13294484]That sounds quite creepy...[/QUOTE]

To each his own I guess.

ghettoeddo 09-20-2006 02:18 PM

well we know what genuine did on his first sexual experience :]

Clunge 09-20-2006 02:45 PM

I take it's Disc 2 of 6DOIT on the DVD?

If so, gash. Disc 1 > Disc 2.

Lionheart1827 09-20-2006 03:05 PM

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation;13294479]Yes, it really makes a big difference. I love all their DVD's, but I couldnt watch any of them in their entirety 10 times in one month. With Score I can do that, not becuase I like the song selection better than any other DVD, but because I love reliving the experience of my first concert.

Its like having sex for the first time and it being recorded for your viewing pleasures later on in life.[/QUOTE]

I agree.

Being there makes it so much better because it lets you relive a great memory, especially since its one of DT's best moments in history.

ghettoeddo 09-20-2006 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=Clunge;13295743]I take it's Disc 2 of 6DOIT on the DVD?

If so, gash. Disc 1 > Disc 2.[/QUOTE]

yea disc 2 is on there in its entirety.

Inkstar 09-20-2006 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo;13294262]uh i've acknowledged it as the best live DVD i've ever seen even out of DT's collection.
nothing is ever going to be perfect. it's a damn good DVD but i was just voicing my opinion on what could've been better[/QUOTE]

Sorry man, that wasn't really aimed at you. I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I'm not angry or anything.

ghettoeddo 09-20-2006 11:57 PM

[QUOTE=Inkstar;13298897]Sorry man, that wasn't really aimed at you. I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I'm not angry or anything.[/QUOTE]

haha no personal offense taken. :chug:

eug008 09-21-2006 02:23 AM

[QUOTE=Clunge;13295743]I take it's Disc 2 of 6DOIT on the DVD?

If so, gash. Disc 1 > Disc 2.[/QUOTE]
I like the 2nd disk and all but I gotta agree with you there. Would of been better if they played the 1st disk but I guess it wouldn't of fit as a dvd.

Inkstar 09-21-2006 03:29 AM

Can you imagine an orchestra playing to The Glass Prison? Haha :p

eug008 09-21-2006 05:13 AM

Yeah, pretty much my point there. :lol:

Jev 09-21-2006 08:13 AM

I would've loved to have seen Disappear though.

eug008 09-21-2006 08:25 AM

imo they should of played that insted of Vacant, was never really a fan of that song.

Jev 09-21-2006 08:27 AM

I don't think Vacant really worked with the full orchestra.

It should've been strings on their own or even better, a single Cello.

Charlie Manson 09-21-2006 08:27 AM

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation;13294479]Its like having sex for the first time and it being recorded for your viewing pleasures later on in life.[/QUOTE]
Hmm that doesn't all that good to me tbh

Chu 09-21-2006 08:28 AM

[QUOTE=Inkstar;13299842]Can you imagine an orchestra playing to The Glass Prison? Haha :p[/QUOTE]
Imagine violins during the intro strumming pattern (The 3-2-00 or whatever it is)

:eek:


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