Who else 'auditioned' for D'amour's position? I recall seeing a rough list, but I don't remember any of the other names...

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]While agree with that, I think that Tool's cover of You Lied is better than the original. Just like how Tool's version, I believe, is better than LZ's original of No Quarter.[/QUOTE]

Yes, apart from the line I mentioned, and on the whole, I prefer Tool's version. And their cover of No Quarter is simply amazing.

Schism
 

The song schism is a historical reference to the division of the Christian church (into Catholic and Protestant, I think.). That event was called the Great Schism, hence the name of the song.

[B]I know the pieces fit, cause I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, fundamental differing[/B]

Maynard is pointing out that it was once whole and was able to get along.

[B]Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers' souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes, testing our communication
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us
So we cannot see to reach an end, crippling our communication[/B]

Here, the pure intention signifies the ultimate goals of christianity, juxtaposed implies the goals were compared, and the souls in motion is that the comparison rendered biased views of the goals and of the church.

[B]I know the pieces fit ‘cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame; it doesn’t mean I don’t desire
To point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication[/B]

The pieces are the branches of christianity, and the no fault shows that neither side is to blame for it, but they chose to blame each other. The rediscovery of communication is apparently what will unite the church once again.

[B]The poetry that comes from the squaring off between
And the circling is worth it, finding beauty in the dissonance[/B]

I am not too sure about this part, but I think it sounds like Maynard is referring to himself, saying that the song or poetry that resulted from the event made the event worth occuring. The beauty is the great song we hear today, the dissonance is the separation of the church.

[B]There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I’ve done the math, enough to know the dangers of a second guessing
Doomed to crumble, unless we grow, and strengthen our communication[/B]

Again, Maynard sings about how the church once was whole but fell apart, and how only communication can fix it.

[B]Cold silence has
A tendency to
Atrophy any
Sense of compassion[/B]

I think this part is basically saying the branches' refusal to work things out by compromising will cancel any chance to come to terms and reunite.

[B]Between supposed lovers
Between supposed brothers[/B]

This is just a reminder of how the sides of the church were once friends, and more than that, they were brothers.

[B]I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit[/B]

Another reminder of what could be.

^Nice first post man. You'll do well here. :thumb:


Man, when I went camping this weekend I was so tempted to through Ænima in to my discman...

[QUOTE=SaturnAscends56]The song schism is a historical reference to the division of the Christian church (into Catholic and Protestant, I think.). That event was called the Great Schism, hence the name of the song.

[B]I know the pieces fit, cause I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, fundamental differing[/B]

Maynard is pointing out that it was once whole and was able to get along.

[B]Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers' souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes, testing our communication
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us
So we cannot see to reach an end, crippling our communication[/B]

Here, the pure intention signifies the ultimate goals of christianity, juxtaposed implies the goals were compared, and the souls in motion is that the comparison rendered biased views of the goals and of the church.

[B]I know the pieces fit ‘cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame; it doesn’t mean I don’t desire
To point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication[/B]

The pieces are the branches of christianity, and the no fault shows that neither side is to blame for it, but they chose to blame each other. The rediscovery of communication is apparently what will unite the church once again.

[B]The poetry that comes from the squaring off between
And the circling is worth it, finding beauty in the dissonance[/B]

I am not too sure about this part, but I think it sounds like Maynard is referring to himself, saying that the song or poetry that resulted from the event made the event worth occuring. The beauty is the great song we hear today, the dissonance is the separation of the church.

[B]There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I’ve done the math, enough to know the dangers of a second guessing
Doomed to crumble, unless we grow, and strengthen our communication[/B]

Again, Maynard sings about how the church once was whole but fell apart, and how only communication can fix it.

[B]Cold silence has
A tendency to
Atrophy any
Sense of compassion[/B]

I think this part is basically saying the branches' refusal to work things out by compromising will cancel any chance to come to terms and reunite.

[B]Between supposed lovers
Between supposed brothers[/B]

This is just a reminder of how the sides of the church were once friends, and more than that, they were brothers.

[B]I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit[/B]

Another reminder of what could be.[/QUOTE]
/award for best first post ever

Welcome to the forums also

/me reads the post

EDIT- That was pretty interesting man. Great post

Nice first post SaturnAscends. Welcome to the forums :)

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Heh, I've never listened to Kyuss, do they have good bass work?[/QUOTE]

You haven't?! I definitely suggest you check into them, great great band, great overall tone, nothing like Tool by the way (except maybe progression), but awesome none the less... they've had two bassists, Scott and Nick Oliveri. Nick played (and now plays?) for QOTSA. I can upload a few Kyuss songs if you'd like. :)

I would like. :)


And after reading Saturns post... I kinda wanna listen to Schism...

[QUOTE=SaturnAscends56]The song schism is a historical reference to the division of the Christian church (into Catholic and Protestant, I think.). That event was called the Great Schism, hence the name of the song.

[B]I know the pieces fit, cause I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, fundamental differing[/B]

Maynard is pointing out that it was once whole and was able to get along.

[B]Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers' souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes, testing our communication
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us
So we cannot see to reach an end, crippling our communication[/B]

Here, the pure intention signifies the ultimate goals of christianity, juxtaposed implies the goals were compared, and the souls in motion is that the comparison rendered biased views of the goals and of the church.

[B]I know the pieces fit ‘cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame; it doesn’t mean I don’t desire
To point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication[/B]

The pieces are the branches of christianity, and the no fault shows that neither side is to blame for it, but they chose to blame each other. The rediscovery of communication is apparently what will unite the church once again.

[B]The poetry that comes from the squaring off between
And the circling is worth it, finding beauty in the dissonance[/B]

I am not too sure about this part, but I think it sounds like Maynard is referring to himself, saying that the song or poetry that resulted from the event made the event worth occuring. The beauty is the great song we hear today, the dissonance is the separation of the church.

[B]There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I’ve done the math, enough to know the dangers of a second guessing
Doomed to crumble, unless we grow, and strengthen our communication[/B]

Again, Maynard sings about how the church once was whole but fell apart, and how only communication can fix it.

[B]Cold silence has
A tendency to
Atrophy any
Sense of compassion[/B]

I think this part is basically saying the branches' refusal to work things out by compromising will cancel any chance to come to terms and reunite.

[B]Between supposed lovers
Between supposed brothers[/B]

This is just a reminder of how the sides of the church were once friends, and more than that, they were brothers.

[B]I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit[/B]

Another reminder of what could be.[/QUOTE]


I thought this was common knowledge, but still, I think this is the best first post [i]ever[/i]

I think I might have to nominate that guy for n00b of the month after one post. :confused:

I think he has already single postedly surpassed the amount of knowledge I have dispensed into this thread. :p

Also, since you've all been talking about Lateralus' epicness, I think that it is my favorite album of all time. Hopefully that'll change by the end of this year, with the new Tool album and such.

Nice first post, man.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Also, since you've all been talking about Lateralus' epicness, I think that it is my favorite album of all time. Hopefully that'll change by the end of this year, with the new Tool album and such.[/QUOTE]
I agree.
Because only Tool can beat out Tool for my favorite album ever.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I would like. :)


And after reading Saturns post... I kinda wanna listen to Schism...[/QUOTE]

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Green Machine

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50 Million Year Trip

I should upload some stuff off Welcome To Sky Valley, as it is more progressive-ish and has Scott Reeder on it, but the songs are in groups so I'll need to split them...

I'm just glad that Saturn wants to impress us. He had the common decency to post something thought-provoking. Good job, Saturn!

about the kyuss thing im pretty sure scott reeder played with tool on the cover of Demon cleaner.....am i correct?

^^ Correct, he was the bassist at the time Kyuss had done Demon Cleaner on WTSV

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I'm just glad that Saturn wants to impress us. He had the common decency to post something thought-provoking. Good job, Saturn![/QUOTE]
Yes that was a great song interpretation and an awesome first post, I've always thought it had something to do with a church because apparently the word Schism it self means seperation of something such as a church.

[QUOTE=SaturnAscends56]The song schism is a historical reference to the division of the Christian church (into Catholic and Protestant, I think.). That event was called the Great Schism, hence the name of the song.

[B]I know the pieces fit, cause I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, fundamental differing[/B]

Maynard is pointing out that it was once whole and was able to get along.

[B]Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers' souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes, testing our communication
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us
So we cannot see to reach an end, crippling our communication[/B]

Here, the pure intention signifies the ultimate goals of christianity, juxtaposed implies the goals were compared, and the souls in motion is that the comparison rendered biased views of the goals and of the church.

[B]I know the pieces fit ‘cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame; it doesn’t mean I don’t desire
To point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication[/B]

The pieces are the branches of christianity, and the no fault shows that neither side is to blame for it, but they chose to blame each other. The rediscovery of communication is apparently what will unite the church once again.

[B]The poetry that comes from the squaring off between
And the circling is worth it, finding beauty in the dissonance[/B]

I am not too sure about this part, but I think it sounds like Maynard is referring to himself, saying that the song or poetry that resulted from the event made the event worth occuring. The beauty is the great song we hear today, the dissonance is the separation of the church.

[B]There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I’ve done the math, enough to know the dangers of a second guessing
Doomed to crumble, unless we grow, and strengthen our communication[/B]

Again, Maynard sings about how the church once was whole but fell apart, and how only communication can fix it.

[B]Cold silence has
A tendency to
Atrophy any
Sense of compassion[/B]

I think this part is basically saying the branches' refusal to work things out by compromising will cancel any chance to come to terms and reunite.

[B]Between supposed lovers
Between supposed brothers[/B]

This is just a reminder of how the sides of the church were once friends, and more than that, they were brothers.

[B]I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit[/B]

Another reminder of what could be.[/QUOTE]


Thank God you didn't come in here in April because I might have not won the NRMOTM that time.

[QUOTE=Lateralias][URL=http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3FQ6RE7UDQ3HS0NMM3VIF7E57V]http://s20.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3FQ6RE7UDQ3HS0NMM3VIF7E57V[/URL]
Green Machine

[URL=http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=32OXWDY1Y0ZV20XQQWP77PWP3N]http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=32OXWDY1Y0ZV20XQQWP77PWP3N[/URL]
50 Million Year Trip

I should upload some stuff off Welcome To Sky Valley, as it is more progressive-ish and has Scott Reeder on it, but the songs are in groups so I'll need to split them...[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Downloaded now, ganna listen tomorrow. :thumb:

[QUOTE=The JoZ]1) Peach did indeed open for Tool on some shows done in Britain/Europe, in 1994

2) I don't know what Tool would've sounded like if Justin hadn't gotten the nod, but I can say that I can't imagine Aenima and Lateralus without him.[/QUOTE]
I could imagine Aenima but definately not Lateralus.

Lateralias-Thanks for the Kyuss tracks. I only DLed Green Machine due to my connection. I just listened to it now, and judging from my first impression, I liked the song, but I don't really imagine my self buying one of their albums. Still not a bad track though. I liked intro for some reason...Just kind of wierd. :p

Demon Cleaner, Gardenia, Writhe and Space Cadet are Kyuss' best songs IMO. Tool did a good cover of Demon Cleaner but Adam messed up a few guitar parts which brang it down a few notches. I wish Josh Garcia sang like that in another Kyuss song, as at first impression I thought it was Josh Homme...which kind of made the song better.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Lateralias-Thanks for the Kyuss tracks. I only DLed Green Machine due to my connection. I just listened to it now, and judging from my first impression, I liked the song, but I don't really imagine my self buying one of their albums. Still not a bad track though. I liked intro for some reason...Just kind of wierd. :p[/QUOTE]

You should give some songs on Welcome to Sky Valley a try, in my opinion it's a different sound... with songs such as Whitewater and Demon Cleaner. If you'd like to give some of those songs a listen I can upload 'em.. but glad you like Green Machine :thumb:

It's so tedious for me to download even one song...My mom has been looking into getting some DSL, so once I get a faster type of intraweb, I will be more than obliged to check out some more Kyuss. :D

Is the only connection Kyuss has to Tool the fact that their bassist tried out for Tool's vacant position?

G mac-Oh yeah, that too. :p What's your new avatar? Something special, or just a cool picture?

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Is the only connection Kyuss has to Tool the fact that their bassist tried out for Tool's vacant position?[/QUOTE]

Tool covered Demon Cleaner with Scott Reeder, as mentioned already on this page.

[QUOTE=SaturnAscends56]The song schism is a historical reference to the division of the Christian church (into Catholic and Protestant, I think.). That event was called the Great Schism, hence the name of the song.

[B]I know the pieces fit, cause I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, fundamental differing[/B]

Maynard is pointing out that it was once whole and was able to get along.

[B]Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers' souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes, testing our communication
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us
So we cannot see to reach an end, crippling our communication[/B]

Here, the pure intention signifies the ultimate goals of christianity, juxtaposed implies the goals were compared, and the souls in motion is that the comparison rendered biased views of the goals and of the church.

[B]I know the pieces fit ‘cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame; it doesn’t mean I don’t desire
To point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication[/B]

The pieces are the branches of christianity, and the no fault shows that neither side is to blame for it, but they chose to blame each other. The rediscovery of communication is apparently what will unite the church once again.

[B]The poetry that comes from the squaring off between
And the circling is worth it, finding beauty in the dissonance[/B]

I am not too sure about this part, but I think it sounds like Maynard is referring to himself, saying that the song or poetry that resulted from the event made the event worth occuring. The beauty is the great song we hear today, the dissonance is the separation of the church.

[B]There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I’ve done the math, enough to know the dangers of a second guessing
Doomed to crumble, unless we grow, and strengthen our communication[/B]

Again, Maynard sings about how the church once was whole but fell apart, and how only communication can fix it.

[B]Cold silence has
A tendency to
Atrophy any
Sense of compassion[/B]

I think this part is basically saying the branches' refusal to work things out by compromising will cancel any chance to come to terms and reunite.

[B]Between supposed lovers
Between supposed brothers[/B]

This is just a reminder of how the sides of the church were once friends, and more than that, they were brothers.

[B]I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit
I know the pieces fit, I know the pieces fit[/B]

Another reminder of what could be.[/QUOTE]

Great first post, but I have to say that I completely disagree with this post. A schism usually involves a split in a religion, but it doesn't always have to be about religion. To me, personally, Lateralus deals with things involved with human behavior, becoming a better person, being a stronger person. For example, The Grudge is literally telling how it's childish to hold grudges and you shouldn't hold them, The Patient talks about having enough desire and want for something that a person can pull through, remain patient, because he knows eventually he can get what he is wanting. Schism, to me, is about a relationship. It's about a relationship that ended and the lyrics deal with why it happened, if this person should give up, etc. "I’ve done the math, enough to know the dangers of a second guessing. Doomed to crumble, unless we grow, and strengthen our communication" Meaning that he knows a second try at this relationship, even though it's very strong, will fail without talking to each other about certain things. This is just my opinion.

tool suck soooooo bad :evil:

[QUOTE=easchill]tool suck soooooo bad :evil:[/QUOTE]

Don't post here then if you think so.

he's just trolling.

i hate people that dissect fukking lyrics and give their dam theories.........

[QUOTE=kurrptsenate]i hate people that dissect fukking lyrics and give their dam theories.........[/QUOTE]

You hate the people, or you hate people doing that?

There is a difference, stop hating people so much, it's not healthy.