top ten...just off the tope of my head and in no particular order and it's subject to change at any time, as often as hourly.

Possessed - Seven Churches
Dismember - Like An Everflowing Stream
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Autopsy - Severed Survival
Bethledeign - An Iliad Of Woes
Carcass - Necroticism
Suffocation - Pierced From Within
Aborted - Engineering The Dead
Death - Leprosy
Lucifer - Watching The Christians Burn

[QUOTE=Apocalyptic Raids;14929870]I'll upload it.[/QUOTE]
you're a ****ing idiot


[quote=TojesDolan]But he doesn't share because Death Metal is too bleak to be shared. [/quote]
I don't know about that. Death and black metal can only be properly understood by someone who explores them on his own initiative, not because he stumbled across some namedropping or because he wants to fit in with a certain subculture. Hence I'm actually doing kiddies a favour by not "sharing." Me namedropping elite bands to MX kiddies would be like handing a calculus textbook to a 2nd grader.



legions I've already commented on most of the albums on your list so I'll just say it's a good one ,except for Aborted and I don't know Belthledeign

You wouldn't like Bethledeign. It probably wouldn't make my overall top 10 list if I ever really sat down and gave it a lot of thought, but I had a couple songs tuck in my head this morning so it made it this time. They're american melodic death.

[QUOTE]I don't know about that. Death and black metal can only be properly understood by someone who explores them on his own initiative, not because he stumbled across some namedropping or because he wants to fit in with a certain subculture. Hence I'm actually doing kiddies a favour by not "sharing." Me namedropping elite bands to MX kiddies would be like handing a calculus textbook to a 2nd grader.
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Actually Dargon I was impressed with this answer. Not that I entirely agree with it but it was good to hear your honest and coherent opinon.

Why do you feel that DM and BM can only be understood by those who find them on there own? Surely someone who enjoys the genre is not watering down their experience by being pointed in the right direction by those more knowledgeable than themselves.

[QUOTE=Slapping Penguin;14930789]Actually Dargon I was impressed with this answer. Not that I entirely agree with it but it was good to hear your honest and coherent opinon.

Why do you feel that DM and BM can only be understood by those who find them on there own? Surely someone who enjoys the genre is not watering down their experience by being pointed in the right direction by those more knowledgeable than themselves.[/QUOTE]
true, I just think that the internet makes it way too easy for the wrong kind of people to get into death/black metal. Or for any people to get into it. Death and black metal circles should be a sort of no-mans-land so that only the most dedicated and true dishards can enter.

What do you guys think of Kataklysm? I just purchased In The Arms of Devestation and so far think its pretty decent.

I can understand such view but I have found the interenet to be fantastic and opening to a whole brilliant genre of music. Yet, I keep my enjoyment of metal fairely personal.

Also who deicides the wrong and right people?

EDIT: I heard that album and I think its pretty much dogsh*t. Like Angels Weeping the Dark has one mega-headbanging riff and thats about it.

[QUOTE=UpperDecker;14930811]What do you guys think of Kataklysm? I just purchased In The Arms of Devestation and so far think its pretty decent.[/QUOTE]

That album is weak. Go for thier earlier stuff.

[QUOTE=UpperDecker;14930811]What do you guys think of Kataklysm? I just purchased In The Arms of Devestation and so far think its pretty decent.[/QUOTE]
MTV-oriented commercialized family-friendly entertainment. not even death metal.

[quote=fapping faguin]Also who deicides the wrong and right people?[/quote]
If it were more difficult to access elite music, then the people themselves would decide by whether or not they were willing to expend the effort to access it.

[QUOTE=Dargon II;14930796]true, I just think that the internet makes it way too easy for the wrong kind of people to get into death/black metal. Or for any people to get into it. Death and black metal circles should be a sort of no-mans-land so that only the most dedicated and true dishards can enter.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, but I seriously worry about you if this is your true mentality.

[QUOTE=Squirrel;14930830]Sorry, but I seriously worry about you if this is your true mentality.[/QUOTE]
don't worry pops, I can take care of myself.

that is probably the most honest no-bullshit post I've made so far on MX.

And thus demonstrating their true love of the music. Gotcha...Far enough, I can understand this view and respect you more so now for discussing properly with me. Thank you.

I will admit however, I am not that person you described. I love my metal but am somewhat lazy with discovering more. However, I am also lazy with all music I love so I don't know if I am less of a fan or just lazy... Anyway,...

Yeah, kinda says a lot really.

You do realise where im coming from with my previous statement, right?

Music is a lot easier to find nowadays so to a small degree, I actually agree with Dargon. It's become so easy to find, that people lose some of the appreciation for it. 10-15 years ago it was a lot harder to come across really good bands because the internet wasn't in wide use. You had to depend on word of mouth, small little fanzines, trades...things like that and because of the effort put forth, the music was worth a lot more to people. People were a lot more appreciative of it.

All that said, I do think the internet has opened a lot of people up to new music that otherwise would have stayed hidden. And that is good as long as people can still appreciate it.

Should I bring up All Shall Perish here or in Metalcore?

My knowlege and collection reflects quality rather than quantity. What I mean by this is that I do not know of many bands, but of the bands I do know I get to know the CDs I've bought well before buying new material. This I find reduces the consumerism and wasting of money on CDs I'll listen to twice before feeling the need for buying more. (Plus I need the money) So the knowlege I have is of [i]quality[/i], i.e. I know the music I'm talking about well, not just a large number of bands I can talk about.

It may surprise some of you to know that it was only I think last month that I got my first Dissection CD and my first Xasthur CD.

I feel it's too easy to get into a trap of wanting to know more and more and buying more and more without ever really getting to know the stuff you've bought. So I have not really become part of things like finding rare stuff, kvlt stuff....


yet

I bought 6 CD's last week, and I've listened to everyone 4 times.

I discovered DM and BM through the internet and without it, I probably wouldn't have been opened up to bands like suffocation, deicide and death who are among some of my favourite bands.

But at the same time I ain't no little windswept haired pretty boy in for death metal cos generic forms of it are 'in'.

Music in general for me = the internet.

[QUOTE=Squirrel;14930852]Yeah, kinda says a lot really.

You do realise where im coming from with my previous statement, right?[/QUOTE]
uh not really, nor am I going to lose sleep over it.

[QUOTE=Dargon II;14931181]uh not really, nor am I going to lose sleep over it.[/QUOTE]

Kay well you have a think about it and if for some reason you really don't get it, come back and we'll chat.


You have a lot of anger issues, it really aint healthy man.

this is a thread for discussing occult and elite death metal, not fvkking Oprah.

EDIT: who the **** are you anyways, I never saw you until like 2 weeks ago

Opreth!

Do you want me to teach you how to get past the swear filter.

It's for discussing what the members deem as a collective to be Death Metal, or to an extent, extreme music in any form.

You're very self absorbed and egocentric, I think that's connected to these anger issues. Are you really insecure with your persona and appearance in real life or something?

[QUOTE=Wotan;14931225]Opreth![/QUOTE]
They could join forces (Oprah and Opeth that is) to create the most powerful multitrillion dollar entertainment industry mankind has ever known.

I know how to pass the fvkking swear filter, I just can't be assed

Ok cool, what about the rest of my post, you're avoid the personal questions.

Seems you dont like talking about yourself; shame? guilt? anger?

these kids are absolutely hysterical

We're still at this avoidance/denial stage.

You gotta face yourself sooner or later.

:lol:

ITT Squirrel offers therapy

[QUOTE=Frankie;14931317]:lol:

ITT Squirrel offers therapy[/QUOTE]
you're a scenester kid and are not welcome here

Dargon keeps getting owned ITT. :lol:



Then complains in "Report Problems".

Greatest comeback? "Your a scenester". Rofl.

[QUOTE]you're a ****ing idiot[/QUOTE]
Hahahahaha.

:-*

He already had material by the band anyway, so any "damage" you think may have been done to your precious obscure band is non-existant. Get over yourself.

Come on Dargon, what does insulting random people on the internet achieve?

Think about it man, simmer down.

Well, for one, it gets a reaction out of people, which I think is what he thrives on.

Maybe, maybe, but that just highlights how he wants attention and/or feels the need to use the internet to interact with other people. He may feel insecure or worth less than his peers, therefore he comes here and professes his superiority where he knows it can never be challenged with irrefutable evidence.

It provides a shield - a safety blanket if you will - that protects him. It cuts out the one thing he cant cope with, and that is other peoples judgements and opinions [of him]

Well, I have the same psychological problem at times, but I don't go around acting like an elitist as much as that. Care to explain?

Yeah well we all have problems, i'm just highlighting Dargons to help him.

Yours? you seem to take a lot of fire here from the others, yet you seem to post in the same style still. Maybe youre just un-phased by what others say or do and you feel no need to change your posting to suit other peoples standards. I mean, thats both good and bad, but yeh.


So yeah, I started listening to Monstrositys latest album again, man it feel fresh. Thoughts, anyone?

You guys are faggots <3

Squirrel, do you by any chance have the first Tourniquet album? I remember you liking them.

Tourniquet as in Psycho Surgery? Pathogenic Occular Dissonance!? geez...I haven't heard that name tossed around on MX for years. Especially in this thread! :lol:

I'll have a root around on my PC, if i've got it do you want it uploaded?