[QUOTE=Wizard.]Stop while you're ahead.[/QUOTE]


No no, I will push it till it breaks.

Address what I said. She called you, once today, why do you need more? You cannot cling to someone like **** on velcro and expect it to be a healthy relationship. I think youre the one in this pair who needs to step up.

Keep doing it.

[QUOTE=Tiger]No no, I will push it till it breaks.

Address what I said. She called you, once today, why do you need more? You cannot cling to someone like **** on velcro and expect it to be a healthy relationship. I think youre the one in this pair who needs to step up.[/QUOTE]
You aren't really offering advice or helping, you're just pointing out the obvious.

I'm not really expecting a healthy reltionship out of this, because I've been trying to bring myself to end for awhile. I just want things to go back to normal for a time, so I can think about what to do without my mind worrying.

What do you mean by "step up"?

[QUOTE=Wizard.]I've been trying to bring myself to end for awhile.
[/QUOTE]


Thats what I mean, right there. You know what you need to do, even if its not break up with her. You know what the solution is, just step up and handle it.

It's harder then it sounds for me man. For one, I am obsessive compulsive and cannot stand drastic changes, so a big change in my life would cause me to screw everythign else up because I overreact naturally. I have to have to let things gradually die down. Once I am sure I can adjust to life normally, I can break it off. I've been going out and enjoying life much more lately. It's actually pissed my girlfriend off, because she knows she doesn't control me anymore.

So you see, I have made [I]some [/I]progress.

I'm the same way about all changes, not just stuff with girls.

Thats cool.


So why did you post, what exactly are you wanting to know?

I'm not sure really. I just post here because it makes me think more about things when I can actually see my thoughts and stuff written out.

Sometimes Chaindrive or someone says something that makes me see things differently as well.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]I'm not sure really. I just post here because it makes me think more about things when I can actually see my thoughts and stuff written out.

Sometimes Chaindrive or someone says something that makes me see things differently as well.[/QUOTE]


You're on the right track, D. This relationship with Blu needs to end.

im so ****ing lonely
i might have blown it with a guy i like
because i gave his friend my phone number, and you never know how they'll interpret these things

[QUOTE=drunkoveryou]im so ****ing lonely
i might have blown it with a guy i like
because i gave his friend my phone number, and you never know how they'll interpret these things[/QUOTE]

:confused:

[QUOTE=drunkoveryou]im so ****ing lonely
i might have blown it with a guy i like
because i gave his friend my phone number, and you never know how they'll interpret these things[/QUOTE]
You shouldn't have done it, if you "knew" how he would interpret it.

And why would you give another guy your number, unless you wanted to talk to that other guy? most guys are going to pissed about that.

Whether you like it or not, guys are going to treat you like a possession for the rest of your life. Even if it isn't visible, they will believe you are "owned" by them, so to speak.

Hey Chaindrive
 

Just an update.


Kate (my love interest) seems to be warming up a little more to me. I think she's starting to appreciate all the subtle things I do to show my affection. My other friends see it and all think that it's great the way I'm going about this. My only complaint is that it's taking more time than I would like but things are moving in a good direction.


I think that single rose I gave her gave her a little something to think about and she did in fact appreciate the gesture.



me = :)

why are you confused? why did i give him my phone number? why not? he's a person first of all, regaurdless of his sex/gender/sexual preference. im new in town and dont know many people. i want some friends. that was what i was thinking, but now today, i dunno..... maybe they'll talk about me and assume that drunken phone number giving can only mean one thing...

You said it yourslef, you know how the guy will interpret it. Nearly all guys will. In fact, the guy you gave your number too is going to think you are interested in him now.

If thiis has any negative effects on your relationship, then you brought it upon yourself, regardless of whether you have the right idea. You know how he is going to take this, yet you do it anyway.

You asked for it, so now you're going to have to deal with it.

Sorry for being harsh. =\

[QUOTE=Wizard.]You shouldn't have done it, if you "knew" how he would interpret it.

And why would you give another guy your number, unless you wanted to talk to that other guy? most guys are going to pissed about that.

Whether you like it or not, guys are going to treat you like a possession for the rest of your life. Even if it isn't visible, they will believe you are "owned" by them, so to speak.[/QUOTE]

well my first response was to tigers confused face. but i think i answered some of your questions too

i dont think a guy is going to treat me as a possession. i am going to find the most e-masculated pushover i can.

but back to the point, yeah, this guy is kind of serious and i do like him. i dont want to embarrass him, i hope its not a big deal.
what everyone can learn from this is that if a girl gives another guy her number, it DOES NOT mean she doesnt like you.....

i guess if he cant deal with it, then i'll just have to sleep with his friend. right? haha

[QUOTE=g°®†]Just an update.


Kate (my love interest) seems to be warming up a little more to me. I think she's starting to appreciate all the subtle things I do to show my affection. My other friends see it and all think that it's great the way I'm going about this. My only complaint is that it's taking more time than I would like but things are moving in a good direction.


I think that single rose I gave her gave her a little something to think about and she did in fact appreciate the gesture.



me = :)[/QUOTE]
Good for you. :)

[QUOTE=drunkoveryou]well my first response was to tigers confused face. but i think i answered some of your questions too

i dont think a guy is going to treat me as a possession. i am going to find the most e-masculated pushover i can.

but back to the point, yeah, this guy is kind of serious and i do like him. i dont want to embarrass him, i hope its not a big deal.
what everyone can learn from this is that if a girl gives another guy her number, it DOES NOT mean she doesnt like you.....[/QUOTE]

But, don't be giving out your number to a friend of his. I'm a girl; I know.

[QUOTE=Chaindrive]But, don't be giving out your number to a friend of his. I'm a girl; I know.[/QUOTE]

hmm..... well, ok, i guess i lost this one. :(

[QUOTE=drunkoveryou]hmm..... well, ok, i guess i lost this one. :([/QUOTE]

If you're lucky, it'll be okay. If not, the person that you gave the number to will call you and he'll want to get lucky. That will suck.

[QUOTE=drunkoveryou]i dont think a guy is going to treat me as a possession. i am going to find the most e-masculated pushover i can.[/QUOTE]
ALL guys are going to think this way. It's just the way we evolved or whatever. It's not something we can help. Even the most sappy and slightly confuzzled sea lionfooted of us will still have those primal beliefs.

[QUOTE]but back to the point, yeah, this guy is kind of serious and [B]i do like him[/B]. i dont want to embarrass him, i hope its not a big deal.
what everyone can learn from this is that if a girl gives another guy her number, it DOES NOT mean she doesnt like you.....[/QUOTE]
It doesn't mean you don't like them, but it does mean hat you like them. See the problem?

Damn these swear filters!

chaindrive, its ok i can handle drunk dials. haha i hope thats all that happens.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]ALL guys are going to think this way. It's just the way we evolved or whatever. It's not something we can help. Even the most sappy and slightly confuzzled sea lionfooted of us will still have those primal beliefs.


It doesn't mean you don't like them, but it does mean hat you like them. See the problem?[/QUOTE]

hat? what.....

anyways i completely disagree that male dominance is innate. i dont wanna discuss it here or now, maybe later.

Hello L&R. :wave:

Well, my uncle is dead, and the funeral is the 23rd, and his ex-wife is wanting my grandma and her sisters to help pay for it. one is on social security, one on disability, and one is barely making it by.


Btw, My uncle = grandma's brother, so is he a granduncle?

whoa bass dude.... :(

[QUOTE=drunkoveryou]anyways i completely disagree that male dominance is innate. i dont wanna discuss it here or now, maybe later.[/QUOTE]
*that, not hat :p

You may disagree, but it's truth. Guys are like that by nature. Can't really do anything about it...

I have already cried my tears over him, and I know he would have wanted us to be happy. He was the guy who gave me most of the dirty jokes i know. I love him, and I wish I had known him better.

edit: read some of my other posts in here on page 31 if you want to know more about the situation.

linky = [url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442593&page=31[/url]

[QUOTE=Wizard.]*that, not hat :p

You may disagree, but it's truth. Guys are like that by nature. Can't really do anything about it...[/QUOTE]

are you kidding? men were born to dominate women? how can you know what is natural and what is not? for starters, what about homosexual men??? you dont know what is truth, let's just stop this here.

[QUOTE=drunkoveryou]are you kidding? men were born to dominate women? how can you know what is natural and what is not? for starters, what about homosexual men??? you dont know what is truth, let's just stop this here.[/QUOTE]
No, it's not that we are meant to dominate. It's that we have the batural instinct to be possessive and protective over women, and anything else we care about. It has nothing to do with certain roles of the genders or anything.

It's all stuff you learn in basic psychology. :p

Both of you shut up because both sides of the argument here are painfully stupid. Take it to a new thread or IM it.

[QUOTE=Wizard.]No, it's not that we are meant to dominate. It's that we have the batural instinct to be possessive and protective over women, and anything else we care about. It has nothing to do with certain roles of the genders or anything.

It's all stuff you learn in basic psychology. :p[/QUOTE]
you're stupid though


getting jealous over this type of thing is not a "alpha" quality. (to use use style of terminology). its a sign of insecurity if anything.


a girl giving a guy a phone number doesn't mean anything really.

Well, it's officially over with Sarah.

I called her and told her that when we're friends, we don't have stupid stuff to argue over like ONE MONTH anniversaries, so maybe we should go back to that.

Well Mitch, you did the right thing.

I hope so.
I'm talking to Pam as we speak.

/double post

Anyway, I forgot to mention that it was late last night that we broke up.

I think I'm gonna get with Pamela.

So me and this girl use to talk alot and hangout alot I even showed her how to play guitar....damn.....Well now where not talking we havent talked for like 2 months and its making me sad and sometimes pisses me off.....and i really like her ....my friends say she got hella bitchy(no offense to u gurls out there) and i get a feeling that she talks crap on me because her friends stare at me alot....I know trying to talk to her would be ideal thing to do but my friends say she has change....idk what to do and i really like her too

[QUOTE=Master guitarist123]So me and this girl use to talk alot and hangout alot I even showed her how to play guitar....damn.....Well now where not talking we havent talked for like 2 months and its making me sad and sometimes pisses me off.....and i really like her ....my friends say she got hella bitchy(no offense to u gurls out there) and i get a feeling that she talks crap on me because her friends stare at me alot....I know trying to talk to her would be ideal thing to do but my friends say she has change....idk what to do and i really like her too[/QUOTE]

Not to point out the painfully obvious, but just talk to her. It's that simple. If you don't have the balls to talk to her then you need to move on.

[QUOTE=Master guitarist123]So me and this girl use to talk alot and hangout alot I even showed her how to play guitar....damn.....Well now where not talking we havent talked for like 2 months and its making me sad and sometimes pisses me off.....and i really like her ....my friends say she got hella bitchy(no offense to u gurls out there) and i get a feeling that she talks crap on me because her friends stare at me alot....I know trying to talk to her would be ideal thing to do but my friends say she has change....idk what to do and i really like her too[/QUOTE]
There's no question to it. You need to talk to her.

[QUOTE=Master guitarist123]So me and this girl use to talk alot and hangout alot I even showed her how to play guitar....damn.....Well now where not talking we havent talked for like 2 months and its making me sad and sometimes pisses me off.....and i really like her ....my friends say she got hella bitchy(no offense to u gurls out there) and i get a feeling that she talks crap on me because her friends stare at me alot....I know trying to talk to her would be ideal thing to do but my friends say she has change....idk what to do and i really like her too[/QUOTE]
I know everyone's saying "talk to her," and to a certain extent I agree with them... but I also know it's not that simple, is it? It's a shame when people move on and it sounds as though she has moved on from you; not because she doesn't like you or because you've done anything to upset her, she's just doing what she's doing. So, if you feel you can talk to her, by all means do so. If not, then I'm afraid you need to move on as well chap. It's not going to happen overnight and you're not going to forget her. But that's not the point. There will come a time, perhaps in a few months, when you find you're not too bothered about it anymore. It will bother you if you think about it too much but you'll stop thinking about it, and it will stop bothering you. Time heals most wounds.

I was in a band with a very nice girl a couple of years ago. That band fell apart and she quit on me, but she never told me why. (Probably something to do with me, but that's another story...) I've never asked her why but I've always wondered, and as she has never spoken to me since (apart from once when she was pissed but I don't count that,) and I've therefore never had an answer, it's always remained in my mind. But it doesn't bother me too much anymore. I'll probably never speak to her again, so there's no point thinking about her. I've got other things to think about...

Well by typing all that about her I've basically just contradicted everything I said, but my point is this: If you move on, the pain you're feeling now WILL go away.

What is wrong with girls?

A good friend of mine, who I also have a massive crush on, has a boyfriend. Now, her boyfriend is a loser. Stuck in a dead end job, crap money, and has no plans to better himself. He is also a drug addict, smoking crap all the time. The other day was her birthday. He didn’t get her anything or take her anywhere. We all went out for a drink, and he was so stoned and drunk he couldn’t even stand. She was so upset. She is always telling me how much she hates him doing drugs, and they never do anything, and how she always has to make the effort. He is so wrong for her. She is an amazing woman and deserves so much better. It hurts me to see her put through this, but the thing I can’t understand is that she won’t leave him. Love has blinded her and she can’t see that there is so much better out there. She knows I don’t like him, but I haven’t told her that she should end it with him. She would say it’s none of my business. But I have told her she deserves better. Why can’t she see he is bad?

So again, what is wrong with girls?

[QUOTE=Jim Hull]What is wrong with girls?

A good friend of mine, who I also have a massive crush on, has a boyfriend. Now, her boyfriend is a loser. Stuck in a dead end job, crap money, and has no plans to better himself. He is also a drug addict, smoking crap all the time. The other day was her birthday. He didn’t get her anything or take her anywhere. We all went out for a drink, and he was so stoned and drunk he couldn’t even stand. She was so upset. She is always telling me how much she hates him doing drugs, and they never do anything, and how she always has to make the effort. He is so wrong for her. She is an amazing woman and deserves so much better. It hurts me to see her put through this, but the thing I can’t understand is that she won’t leave him. Love has blinded her and she can’t see that there is so much better out there. She knows I don’t like him, but I haven’t told her that she should end it with him. She would say it’s none of my business. But I have told her she deserves better. Why can’t she see he is bad?

So again, what is wrong with girls?[/QUOTE]
A lot of girls are like that.

They think they can change the guy. But everyone else knows they can't.

It's dumb, and has happened ot me multiple times.

[QUOTE=Jim Hull]What is wrong with girls?

A good friend of mine, who I also have a massive crush on, has a boyfriend. Now, her boyfriend is a loser. Stuck in a dead end job, crap money, and has no plans to better himself. He is also a drug addict, smoking crap all the time. The other day was her birthday. He didn’t get her anything or take her anywhere. We all went out for a drink, and he was so stoned and drunk he couldn’t even stand. She was so upset. She is always telling me how much she hates him doing drugs, and they never do anything, and how she always has to make the effort. He is so wrong for her. She is an amazing woman and deserves so much better. It hurts me to see her put through this, but the thing I can’t understand is that she won’t leave him. Love has blinded her and she can’t see that there is so much better out there. She knows I don’t like him, but I haven’t told her that she should end it with him. She would say it’s none of my business. But I have told her she deserves better. Why can’t she see he is bad?

So again, what is wrong with girls?[/QUOTE]
I dont't know man. I think... just as a complete shot in the dark, she may want to help him more than change him. Think about it; if she leaves this guy, he will have nothing. Then again, she's hardly anything to him now if half of what you've just told us is true.

Unfortunately, however much this upsets you, it is ultimately her own problem. The best I think you can do is to just, er, wait on the sidelines, so to speak. If and when she finally decides she's had enough, you need to be there for her. She'll thank you for that. But for now, all you can do is watch and wait.

[QUOTE=El Krunk]Not to point out the painfully obvious, but just talk to her. It's that simple. If you don't have the balls to talk to her then you need to move on.[/QUOTE]

What's up, Jared?

Okay, so I am now with Pamela.
Congratulate me.
:chug: