Paiste 2002s :thumb:

If you can't afford those, Zildjian As and Sabian AAs are also your traditional rock crash.

But the 2002s is exactly what Bonham and Moon used.

I need a crash, preferably Sabian which i can ride on for those heavier parts but isn't going to drown out the rest of the kit.

[QUOTE]Well first off let me introduce myself. My name is Scott and I've been drumming for about 6 months on my pacific fs birch kit, which I love, and I've been visiting the forums for quite a while but just decided to register. Mainly because I need some help. I have a limited knowledge of cymbals, but am looking to replace my whole setup. Currently I have B8 hats, a avedis rock ride, and a AAX metal crash and I really don't like any of them. My buddy and I are slowly forming our band and I need something that will fit better. The crash is too loud, the hats are just low end, and the ride is way too washy for me. Were going to be playing stuff like Weezer and Say Anything. I don't like genres but pop rock I guess. Also some Dave Matthews stuff mainly because I love Beauford. Anyways I'm looking for 2 crashes, hats, ride and maybe a splash. Thanks a lot for your help.[/QUOTE]Well the crash is supposed to be loud, but anyways for crashes look into sabians AA/HH medium-thin/thin crashes or some of the K/K custom crashes from Zildjian. If the Hats are too low sounding look into A/K Dyno beats if you want something really bright and If thats to bright look into some sabain pro/pro sonix hats and the AA regulars or AAX Stage hats. For the ride look into the HH Rock ride or the AA medium Heavy ride both from sabian. for a splash deffinately go for an AA splash....

[QUOTE=Strong Drummer]i know very little about which hi hats are good or what kind of sounds they give off, but im debating between the zildjian mastersound and new beats.
Which one is the better buy? Is there any other hats i should look into?[/QUOTE]

I tried the 13" Mastersounds. HATE! Didn't like the lack of edge (swish) sound, and went with the New Beat 14" (love 'em). These are the basic, high quaility hi-hat that are very versatile.

Im thinking of getting new cymbals for my kit. I want something heavy like cymbals they use in heavy metal tracks if you know what i mean

Whats your budget? Any brand loyalties?

Not too expensive and i prefer sabian, paiste or zildjian but any other rccomendations will be took into consideration

Paiste - Rudes are the cymbals designed for the heaviest music, but theres a load in the Signature range that are suitable, but are pretty darn expensive, but sure as hell worth it.

Zildjian - The Z Custom range is the 'heavy metal' type range of Zildjian, but a lot of people on the forum say that they're just loud, and they sacrifise musicality. The Avedis series could be suitable for metal too, I know Lars Ulrich uses them.

Sabian - I think the AAX series is Sabian's series for rock/metal, but I can't really comment on these, I don't have much experience with Sabian.

I couldn't really say which the best bet out of the 'Big Three' would be, my opinion would be biased. Its best to try out cymbals and buy whichever you feel sounds the best, with a blindfold on, so the brand doesn't influence you.

[quote]Sabian - I think the AAX series is Sabian's series for rock/metal, but I can't really comment on these, I don't have much experience with Sabian.[/quote]

ANY Sabian line will do. they all have a range of thin and heavy cymbals.

need a new crash
 

i'm looking for a new crash. i like to play metal. it needs to be durable and i want to be able to ride on for some parts and i also want it to beable to crash to. i don't want it to have to much sustain. It also has to be cheap and affordable like in the $100 range.

[QUOTE=0-0~RockForever]how is the Wuhan 18" crash? i tested it a bit like a week ago, but i can't REALLY remember how it sounds... good for metal/rock? worth $130? thanks[/QUOTE]

well, i got the cymbal, despite any answers.... and it sounds really trashy and low to medium pitched, it's a great second cymbal, and to answer my own question, it's good for metal/rock, and worth $130.

[QUOTE=chuckdrums]i'm looking for a new crash. i like to play metal. it needs to be durable and i want to be able to ride on for some parts and i also want it to beable to crash to. i don't want it to have to much sustain. It also has to be cheap and affordable like in the $100 range.[/QUOTE]

good luck, buddy

I think my question got missed a while back so im going to repost it

[Quote]
I'm thinking of changing my cymbal set-up a bit. right now its


8"k custom splash
12" wuhan china(of course who doesnt have one)
13" paiste sig dark hats
16" k custom splash
18" aax dark crash
19" A custom crash
21" raw dry ride
22" aax metal ride

ok heres the deal. im very happy with my rides, they are so polar opposite and yet they dont clash so they are perfect. i love my hi hats and my china and my splash(though i d like to get more splashes, id like to have 3 ) the only thing i have a psuedo "problem" with are my crashes. I mean i love them all and they all sound great. BUT , the a custom doesnt sound great with the dry ride, and it doesnt sound great with the other crashes, and yet i still think i like that crash the most. SO in short, im thinking of changing my crash cymbal set up and i know that i should just goto the store and check em all out, but i wouldnt be able to do that for a while, and i wouldnt even buy anything for a while so im just looking for opinions and suggestions...what three crashes would you buy to match my other cymbals>?

[/QUOTE]

China
 

Ahoy ahoy.

I'm after a china.

17 or 18 inches. Fairly dark, not too cutting, almost a "refined" sounding china if that makes sense. Probably a thinner cymbal I imagine.

Have been looking at K's, Dimensions thin, and AA's. I'm thinking AA is too bright for my wants.

Anyone know what some Istanbul china's are like?

you might want to look into the K custom dark china/ K china both come in 17" and 19" or sabians HHX China or HH THin China...

Chekc out the K's and K Customs, great dark chinas.

[QUOTE=dragonninja]Ahoy ahoy.

I'm after a china.

17 or 18 inches. Fairly dark, not too cutting, almost a "refined" sounding china if that makes sense. Probably a thinner cymbal I imagine.

Have been looking at K's, Dimensions thin, and AA's. I'm thinking AA is too bright for my wants.

Anyone know what some Istanbul china's are like?[/QUOTE]

i'd say Hand Hammered Dark Chinese....you'll probably have to request a custom order for an 18" though.

ooo forgot that one

Maybe the Carmine Appice devastation Chinese too.

help me please!
 

okay. Im looking for new crashes,16 and an 18 inch. i am getting the 18 first though. here is what im looking for:
syle of music: Hard rock, rock, punk,i need something that is medium or medium heavy,something that cuts through the music,musical and not dull,
good response,not a lot of ringing out,something that doesnt get all distorted a lot. any suggestions?
my budget is about $160-$180 for the 18inch and about $140-$165 for the 16.
thanks for the help. and also it doesnt have to be a particular brand it jsut has to sound good, be durable, and be at a good price.Im goign on monday which is in about 3 or 4 days so any help will do. thanks :D

[QUOTE=Plan B.]Maybe the Carmine Appice devastation Chinese too.[/QUOTE]

hells no! thats the direct opposite of what he's looking for.

mine is brash, VERY bright, and not too pleasent sounding (for a china)

:lol:

You're right, I played one the other day and it was very brash.

More like a John Blackwell Signature Chinese then.

i wanna try one of those. should be really dirty sounding, and dry....given the absence of a bell and its unlahtedness.

Yeah, it's gnarly as hell. I almost bought one.

Dry, nice and dark, but smooth too.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]Clean Thread.

DO NOT post anything about cymbals in this thread.[/QUOTE]

Please people read the initial post and stay on subject. You are not supposed to talk about cymbals in this thread. I know, it says ***The Cymbal Finder***, but bobby__johnny even requested not to post about cymbals. Don't ask me, ask him. I'm just trying to keep the boards and threads on subject. :lol:

Thanks for your time! :lol: :lol:

:thumb:

i fail to see the humor in that....seeing as the original post said nothing of the sort.

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]i fail to see the humor in that....seeing as the original post said nothing of the sort.[/QUOTE]

Like the man said. And I know funny, I just saw Pulp Fiction again.

Well, too bad you didn't get anything funny out of it. I just realized that I could change the text in the quote and tried it to see if it worked.

[QUOTE=Freebyrd]I make sh[B]it[/B] jokes[/QUOTE]

wow, works for me too :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Freebyrd]I'm gay.[/QUOTE]

Well, now it's funny! :lol:

Ah'm just messin' wit ya.

[QUOTE=Freebyrd]i eat monkey poop twice daily[/QUOTE]

woo! i can do it too! :rolleyes:..

**** off pal. your not funny at all.

I am currently looking a splash like a 8 or 10 inch and use sabians any suggestions?

have a price range and pitch preferance?

Looking for versatile, dark cymbals. Working to save up money for the right cymbals. I have only been playing for one year though. Mostly rock and jazz music.
Just a few questions. Do thick cymbals last longer than thin? I mean, are they less susceptible to cracking, or is there no difference?

I've been looking around a few shops and prices are absurd in the UK compared to in the US. So I've had a look at online places and ebay.

[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10174&item=7324823598&rd=1[/url]
[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10174&item=7325989903&tc=photo[/url]
the K constantinope for £249

[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10174&item=7325295751&tc=photo[/url]
20" K custom session ride for £175

What do you think of these prices for the cymbals? I'm in no rush to buy and will save up. Thanks

cracking should not be of concern as long as you play smartly.

having said that, be smart in your decisions. dont buy thin *** cymbals for metal.

for your rock/jazz playing, look for a medium weight cymbal.....perhaps an HHX Groove ride?

I dont have a much a price range nothin to expencive though

I am Looking for a ride that has alot!! of ping and maybe a little resonance.. the brands i am looking between is sabian and zildjian.. thx guys.

EDIT: And has a nice crisp loud shiny sounding bell.

well I honestly don't have much experience with zildjian or sabian, but I own a meinl mb20 heavy bell ride, and the bell is loud as hell, I love it. So if you aren't married to those two brands check it out, its rather expensive though, I got mine for around $300

Ok...there's not a music store anywhere around here, so I'm making the big trip up to Atlanta later to go to guitar center to buy a ride. I've been pretty much set on a Paiste 2002...can't search the topic so yeah. I mostly play for myself, it could get used in some jazz band performance possibly. My other cymbals are all mismatched, the ones I'm using right now are from the 70s that I got out of the bandroom, assorted Paiste and Zildjians. But there's no ride in there so I'm buying one. So tell me what you think, anyone.

[QUOTE=the secret robot]Ok...there's not a music store anywhere around here, so I'm making the big trip up to Atlanta later to go to guitar center to buy a ride. I've been pretty much set on a Paiste 2002...can't search the topic so yeah. I mostly play for myself, it could get used in some jazz band performance possibly. My other cymbals are all mismatched, the ones I'm using right now are from the 70s that I got out of the bandroom, assorted Paiste and Zildjians. But there's no ride in there so I'm buying one. So tell me what you think, anyone.[/QUOTE]

2002 Very nice and verstatile ride