[QUOTE=CrapBassist19]When is the dvd supposed to come out?[/QUOTE]


November 16. But! yesterday i read that there is ANOTHER APC dvd coming out sometime in the future. This one will actually include live footage from their Thirteenth Step tour and Mer De Noms era...from their first tour i think i heard which was in either '99 or '00 with NIN. The dvd coming out in November i think will only include "The Noose" live and some extra stuff like their video collection, i think i heard. ..and some pictures or something that they took whilel touring...not an entire live concert as orginally thought. So now there is another dvd to look forward to...i don't know exactly when though.

[QUOTE=misunderstood]November 16. But! yesterday i read that there is ANOTHER APC dvd coming out sometime in the future. This one will actually include live footage from their Thirteenth Step tour and Mer De Noms era...from their first tour i think i heard which was in either '99 or '00 with NIN. The dvd coming out in November i think will only include "The Noose" live and some extra stuff like their video collection, i think i heard. ..and some pictures or something that they took whilel touring...not an entire live concert as orginally thought. So now there is another dvd to look forward to...i don't know exactly when though.[/QUOTE]

...that sounds like the DVD that is coming out on november 16th? You sue you not got mixed up?

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]...that sounds like the DVD that is coming out on november 16th? You sue you not got mixed up?[/QUOTE]


No, check this out:
"First off, what happened to all the footage the band taped on the most recent tour and where's the live DVD? The answer to that one is: It's coming. The band intends to put together a proper live performance DVD compiled from footage from both the Mer De Noms and Thirteenth Step eras of touring. It may be awhile though; the band will take their time with it and first let these upcoming releases (eMOTIVe and aMOTION) run their course." --- [url]www.aperfectcircle.net[/url]

you can this also at [url]www.basetendencies.com[/url]

Tool tickles me pink. ^_^

[QUOTE=xtreme450]i don't know about you, but i'd like to slip into maynards head for a little bit. if it's scary, i'd get out, but if its as calm and serene as i think it is, i'd stay for awhile and take a vacation.[/QUOTE]

I don't really think Maynard is the actual mastermind behind the lyrics and theories. I believe it is Adam and Danny. I would like to talk to Adam about Metaphysics and I would like to talk to Danny about Saunierre.......

^^^^ I agree with stagegfright...
I think Maynard is the lord of the poetry/final ideas but reading danny's site its certain that he has a big input to the broad theories....
So i think maynard is the mastermind of the lyrics, but not the theories, tool as band seem to all be exploring slightly different areas that come together as the braod ideas in songs....

The thing about Tool is how the different members play their own way, yet it all comes together to form wonderful music.

are there any deeper meanings to their videos? i mean there must be and its not all just random crap thrown around

any ideas people?

[QUOTE=sgrevs]are there any deeper meanings to their videos? i mean there must be and its not all just random crap thrown around

any ideas people?[/QUOTE]

I have always been thinking about that. I know there is some meaning to it. There hasn't been much discussion at all about the videos on this thread. So lets get some talk started. I'm gonna watch em agian, and see what I think.

the video for Ænima is weird but its got lots of water. song seems to hav sumthin to do with floodin away stuff n the like. must be some sort of link...no?

^^^ yeah because the song is basically talks about him wanting la to "flush away" so yeah id think it would have water in it....

Ænima
 

[QUOTE=sgrevs]the video for Ænima is weird but its got lots of water. song seems to hav sumthin to do with floodin away stuff n the like. must be some sort of link...no?[/QUOTE]
Well, if you want to understand the meaning behind that, just listen closely to the lyrics of the song, or look them up and take a read. The entire song is a Maynard rant against LA/California, and his wish that the entire state will be "flushed away". If you actually have the album (Ænima), then lift up the CD and look underneath it. It's a hologram of California disappearing off the map under the ocean.

yeah thats right i was gonna say the hole thing about California disappearing but you said it or me

The whole idea of flushing LA away is a Bill Hicks line....on one of his tours, he talks about how evil LA is and he can't way for the day that god will flush it away, like when he flooded the world in the noah bible story, because it was too full of sin.
The San Andreas fault is one of the most volatile in the world, and it will eventually crack enough to submerge california....but probably not in our lifetime.
Unless something unusual happens.....

Hence the line "learn to swim"

MAJOR BUMPAGE!!!one111

Could you guys put together a bibliography of books you've read/sites you've visited that are related to tool. As in theories tool use in songs, inspirations and influences...Yeha i think it would benefit alot of people...

/Ps my new user title pwns, doesn't it?

Lachrymology
 

I haven't seen this mention yet...Lachrymology "the sheading of tears." Supposedly this is what TOOL's music is really about, not just about their views of how un-compassionate religion is these days. But in the lyrics Maynard tries to get across that putting yourself in a vulnerable position, and learning and growing from the pain that has come your way. He mentions about crucifying the ego, which deals with meditation, also when he says, "the moon tells me a secret, your confident." Where does the moon get its light from? The sun...where does your confidence get its light from your ego. And to truly step aside from individuality (in my opinion seems hard) and to connect yourslef with everything around you. To understand better of 46 & 2 and everything TOOL is trying to get across watch the movie. Pi -faith in chaos-

TOOL- the band decided to name themsleves this because they wanted to teach the listerners (us) about Lachrymology, they wanted to be a tool (shed)

-peace-

p.s. yes TOOL is brillant, but their not everything, all you...go outside and do something productive.

Yesterday, I bought Aenima.

And the other day, i bought Lateralus, without even knowing anything about Tool.

Imagine my suprise.

[QUOTE=clearvision]MAJOR BUMPAGE!!!one111

Could you guys put together a bibliography of books you've read/sites you've visited that are related to tool. As in theories tool use in songs, inspirations and influences...Yeha i think it would benefit alot of people...

/Ps my new user title pwns, doesn't it?[/QUOTE]

[URL=http://toolshed.down.net]Tool Shed[/URL]

[URL=http://www.toolpantheon.com]Tool Pantheon[/URL]

I'll put more once I think of some. But that Tool Pantheon site goes into good detail on Tool's philosophoes and the philosophy behind Lateralus.

Tool videos
 

Someone mentioned Tool's videos and I think they're definitely worth discussing.

Just watch the Parabol/Parabola video. In my eyes it is full of symbols and a piece of art in it self (perhaps it is another way of conveying the same as is conveyed through the lyrics and music?)

I find it hard to understand the video (harder than the song it self), but does anyone know what it's all about???

Straf



P.S. English is my second language so don't kill me if I fail to write correctly :)

About lachrimology:
as far as I know, the commonly held veiw is that its a hoax concoted by the members of tool - no one has been able to find any record of the reference books they mentioned in relation to it.
BUT - the thing is, it seems a great theory to me: advancement through tears? its like saying "no pain, no gain"; like the native American Indian sweat lodge rituals of placing yourself in discomfort in order to bring the world to a better blace, like some eastern mediation forms...
Is it a case of tool being so good at bull****ting that even when they do, they stumble across something deep?
or is it true, and the reason no one can find the books is because danny/blair found it (he's a rare book collector so has access to resources others don't)

Or does it matter either way? I got something out of it, i think its a valid idea, and whether its invented by tool in 98 or some author in 28, or some other time entirely, that doesn't change my response.

Flabbit: what was your reaction to the presumable sensory overload of 2 new tool albums within a week? its like trying acid and mushrooms, for the first time, on the same night!

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbump


I bought the second string tribute album this weekend, and the results vary i must say. Most of the Undertow songs are really well done, but some of the more complex sounding songs (stinkfist, Lateralus) lose it a bit. Anyone else got it, or the first one?

I would send you something, but it would take a while, each of my tool tracks are 30MB as I wanted them down in their best quality. But i did send a live one over Gmail a while ago, so I could send it again

The live one is a lot smaller, as it was one I downloaded from a site. Ill add you now in any case.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbump


I bought the second string tribute album this weekend, and the results vary i must say. Most of the Undertow songs are really well done, but some of the more complex sounding songs (stinkfist, Lateralus) lose it a bit. Anyone else got it, or the first one?[/QUOTE]

I've got both of them, but the first one is the better of the two. For some reason, maybe the one you stated, the second just didn't hook me like the first one did. Maybe I'll listen to it later and find out.

[QUOTE=BurtonChancellor]Well, if you want to understand the meaning behind that, just listen closely to the lyrics of the song, or look them up and take a read. The entire song is a Maynard rant against LA/California, and his wish that the entire state will be "flushed away". If you actually have the album (Ænima), then lift up the CD and look underneath it. It's a hologram of California disappearing off the map under the ocean.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, and the oklahoma panhandle is inaccurate. It's weird how maynard hates LA/California, when he lives in LA.

From what I know, most people who live in LA hate LA


Even though I live in England, I can tell LA is the sell out phoney capital of the world, arguably

Oh man. I want Tool to tour soon. Relevance Factor - 1

[QUOTE=Medopalis]30 MB? How the hell did you manage that? :amaze: Do you have AIM/MSN anyway? If you do, and you want to, just add me. My names are in my profile, as I don't think Gmail works for that large a file does it?[/QUOTE]

dude im sure that the GB of space gmail provides is enough for 30MB or even an intire album of 30mb tracks...

to me, LA is a symbol for all that glitters but is not gold...
everything there seems a facade from here in sydney...like a movie set - you've got a regular looking place, but walk round the back and its just a fake front...

hmmm n string tributes....i'm a classical muso, and i didn't really love either of the cds...but there's enough good ones over 2 cds to make one good compilation, so i think i will do so...

I just bought Lateralus last week, having heard almost no Tool before, except for H and Schism occasionally on the radio. I have to say it's an incredible album.

^^ Yeah, Lateralus is infact a great album....you should really try to get Aenima also. That is my personal favorite Tool album followed by Lateralus....I'm more than sure you'll really like it.

[QUOTE=Cort2003]Yeah, and the oklahoma panhandle is inaccurate. It's weird how maynard hates LA/California, when he lives in LA.[/QUOTE]

The best way to write something is from experience.

to the guy that wanted someone to send him tool stuff...
i can send u an album if u still need it ...but do u know which one u want? i dont have salival (of course not) and i dont have opiate. but i have the rest so im me on aim whenever im on (im on almost everyday) whenever u want me to send the album

[QUOTE=Eonsunset]I haven't seen this mention yet...Lachrymology "the sheading of tears." Supposedly this is what TOOL's music is really about, not just about their views of how un-compassionate religion is these days. But in the lyrics Maynard tries to get across that putting yourself in a vulnerable position, and learning and growing from the pain that has come your way. He mentions about crucifying the ego, which deals with meditation, also when he says, "the moon tells me a secret, your confident." Where does the moon get its light from? The sun...where does your confidence get its light from your ego. And to truly step aside from individuality (in my opinion seems hard) and to connect yourslef with everything around you. To understand better of 46 & 2 and everything TOOL is trying to get across watch the movie. Pi -faith in chaos-

TOOL- the band decided to name themsleves this because they wanted to teach the listerners (us) about Lachrymology, they wanted to be a tool (shed)

-peace-

p.s. yes TOOL is brillant, but their not everything, all you...go outside and do something productive.[/QUOTE]

Theres a whole section on Lachrymology on Tool's official page, actually its at the page where you can choose between the "Dissectional" art site, and the official real site, you know, the page with the brain. The section on Lachrymology is hidden on that page, but it shouldn't to hard to find for the rest of you puzzle solving Tool fans. :)

i def. agree with you on that one!!! Ænema is good if you havent actually sat and had the great experience of listening to Maynards voice....on the other hand Lateralus is so deep and i love it! but every TOOL album is kick @$$ is my opinion...

i have a really stupid question...but is it Ænima or Ænema? its spelt both ways on the cd itself...i put it Ænema...but...i dont really know! everyone else that i have seen put it...Ænima! can someone please explain....!!!!

it really does bother me as well when ppl sa they are TOOl fans when they only know one or two songs. on the other hand...im a serious TOOL fan. i own all of their cds even the string tributes. i have every **** poster and underground **** that Maynard did way back in the day (C.A.D and The TexAns) i have like 3 TOOL backpacks and all of TOOLs necklaces/rings/hats/beanies/sweatshirts/t-shirts its crazy how bad my room is....im the biggest TOOL freak around...

[QUOTE=TOOLphreak_46and2]it really does bother me as well when ppl sa they are TOOl fans when they only know one or two songs. on the other hand...im a serious TOOL fan. i own all of their cds even the string tributes. i have every **** poster and underground **** that Maynard did way back in the day (C.A.D and The TexAns) i have like 3 TOOL backpacks and all of TOOLs necklaces/rings/hats/beanies/sweatshirts/t-shirts its crazy how bad my room is....im the biggest TOOL freak around...[/QUOTE]

You can be a fan without buying everything with the word "tool" on it, you know.

[QUOTE=TOOLphreak_46and2]i have a really stupid question...but is it Ænima or Ænema? its spelt both ways on the cd itself...i put it Ænema...but...i dont really know! everyone else that i have seen put it...Ænima! can someone please explain....!!!![/QUOTE]


Both are correct for Tool titles, one is the album title, the other is the song title.

Ænima = Album
Ænema = Song