[QUOTE=all_mighty_guitar_player_666]exactly :thumb: i think they get better with every album with the exception of ****ation, its a awesome album don't get me wrong but i think the production wasn't to good, i hate the way Ending Credits starts out and it just doesn't have the right feeling overall[/QUOTE]

Bah! It sounds great to me.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Bah! It sounds great to me.[/QUOTE]

1000th reply, very deserving, you, Flynn and cardboard headgear have gotten this thread here :thumb:

[quote]mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Could anyone tell me the setlist of this?[/quote]

Well my dsl is kind of struggling with that but heres what i have so far.

Godheads lament
Advent
Deliverence
The drapery falls
A fair judgement

Last and defiantly not least Demon of the fall!

Btw thanks for that link, that is awsome. Its making me want to see them live soo much more (wich i plan to do next time they tour ;) )

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]1000th reply, very deserving, you, Flynn and cardboard headgear have gotten this thread here :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Thanks. :)

[QUOTE=Bertovo]mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Could anyone tell me the setlist of this?[/QUOTE]

Woo! They're sailin'. Person who recorded video was most likely a bassist, based upon the inordinate amount of attention placed on Mendez. :lol: Guy's rippin' it up, though....cool video.

[QUOTE=Bertovo]mms://straum.nrk.no/Musikk/2003-06-16/Opeth_300k.wmv

Could anyone tell me the setlist of this?[/QUOTE]
excellent link! :thumb: ...While i was watching it, i felt very lucky since i have seen them live! Anyone can tell me how to save it in my hard disk?

i just bought orchid today, how bloody awesome is the intro to The Apostle in Triumph? Its just a fabulous record, its also got a bonus track, Into The Frost of Winter. Very Cool!!! Oh and just a question, how is the violin done in The Apostle in Truimph and Black Rose Immortal?

[QUOTE]hmm, give Opeth another chance, try the Still Life album, i think it will change you. It does take time to get used to Mikael's growls. If your not a fan of Death metal, Mikael's growls are the only ones you should be able to take, they really do grow on you, just give it a chance [/QUOTE]

Yes im not much of a death metal fan, not as much as some other kinds of music but Mikael's growls really dont bother me, i like them alot. The growls have changed alot since Orchid, but are still great.

[QUOTE]Originally Posted By [B]Cardboard Headgear[/B]
Mikael hits that 'sky' note better than Dianno imo.[/QUOTE]
thats because Mikael is a much better singer than Dianno. I love Iron Maiden, but when Dianno was there instead of the mighty Bruce Dickinson, I lost alot of my love for them. Thats one of the reasons I found Opeth, i was looking for a band to replace Maiden, and that was them. However Dickinson is back now, so i love them again.

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]thats because Mikael is a much better singer than Dianno. I love Iron Maiden, but when Dianno was there instead of the mighty Bruce Dickinson, I lost alot of my love for them. Thats one of the reasons I found Opeth, i was looking for a band to replace Maiden, and that was them. However Dickinson is back now, so i love them again.[/QUOTE]
You're confusing Dianno with Bailey. Paul Di'anno was their first singer, he's on the first two albums. Then Dickison came along, and left after Fear of the Dark. Then they got Blaze Bailey, who is actually a good singer but got flack because really, you can't replace Dickinson. And then Dickinson came back for Brave New World.

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]Oh and just a question, how is the violin done in The Apostle in Truimph and Black Rose Immortal?[/QUOTE]
It's just a clean guitar with quick little volume swells (so you don't hear the actual picking, but rather just the note) to give it a violin-esque bowed sound.

[QUOTE=kas_ofi]excellent link! :thumb: ...While i was watching it, i felt very lucky since i have seen them live! Anyone can tell me how to save it in my hard disk?[/QUOTE]

You have to find a good streaming video capturer.

If you find one, tell me.

ahh so i am, Dianno was great, but IMO Bailey was where Iron Maiden went to an all time low

[QUOTE=Bertovo]You have to find a good streaming video capturer.

If you find one, tell me.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://stream-down.cocsoft.com/download.html[/url]

Google is a wonderful thing. :thumb:
Hey Det, what was that sight with The Gathering and Nightwish and Dimmu (and more) streaming shows on it? I have some...business with it now that I've got this program.

[QUOTE]It's just a clean guitar with quick little volume swells (so you don't hear the actual picking, but rather just the note) to give it a violin-esque bowed sound.[/QUOTE]

wow how clever

Can any of you guys suggest and good Opeth forums with reliable info? I tried searching for some but to no avail. Anybody know of any?

[QUOTE=Flynn]He mentions Melinda in 3 songs on Still Life...I am curious who she is and what the concept of that LP was to her.

[I]The Moor [/I] ..."Melinda is the reason why I've come."
[I]Serenity Painted Death [/I] ..."Melinda reflected in shafts..."
[I]Face of Melinda[/I] ...Pretty explanitory lol...[/QUOTE]

This is a very belated response, but he named his daughter Melinda. Maybe thats the reason?

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]hmm, give Opeth another chance, try the Still Life album, i think it will change you. It does take time to get used to Mikael's growls. If your not a fan of Death metal, Mikael's growls are the only ones you should be able to take, they really do grow on you, just give it a chance :thumb:[/QUOTE]


Yeah, Ill agree Opeth intimedated me for a while when I was first introduced to them. I never used to listen to Death Metal, why start now I thought. Me and my brother always used to laugh at the Death vocals and growls. :lol:

But the first word in becoming a fan is persiverance! In fact, you can get into any kind of music if this used properly. Seriously, If you hate Black Metal, and you start listening to it 2 times a day, I can give you save assurance that its going to start to grow on you. Thats why im alwys hesistant to what I listen to. I dont like Punk, I dont listen to it. I dont like Black Metal, I stay away from it. But this is a bit besides the point...SOZ! :confused:

The point is, if you want to experience something different like Opeth, just listen to it every day. The one thing that ALWAYS pushes people away is the vocals. Unconditioned people just arent used to these types of growls and vox's. To start to like a band you must give it a chance, but also, you must give it time to grow. One day you might pick up on something new in a song. That last bit in Wreath. The Demise part in When. The last part in Funeral Portrait. The ''aah'' middle part in White Cluster. Its these type of things that lure you in, and is exactly what Opeth are acclaimed for. Their ability to step over boundries set by millions of clone metal bands, and not be afraid to show their softer side, in a metal song.

^^ I'm pretty sure that question was already answered in this thread, but no, that is definately not the reason.

EDIT: to amostbitterseason

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]This is a very belated response, but he named his daughter Melinda. Maybe thats the reason?[/QUOTE]
Still Life is a concept album telling the story of a man who has returned to a town for the woman he loves, who is named Melinda. That explains her name in those songs.

[QUOTE=LeperAffinity]Still Life is a concept album telling the story of a man who has returned to a town for the woman he loves, who is named Melinda. That explains her name in those songs.[/QUOTE]
I see. Thank you for clarifying that.

BTW, I asked this before but no one has answered yet. Anyone know of any good Opeth forums?

[url]www.opeth.com[/url]
It has a link to the official one at the bottom of the page.

Veiw in fullscreen or it won't show up.

if you carefully read the lyrics in blackwater park and deliverance, there are small concepts, not as clear as MAYH and SL but still there. For example deliverance tells of a man who murders a women by drowning her in the sea and the guilt and emotions he feels. Read the lyrics in deliverance and a fair judgement, that should give you a fair idea.

Blackwater park tells of a disease and the characters close escape from death, The "Leper" Affinity tells of obtaining the disease, whilst Bleak tells of the pain and suffering the character faces. Harvest faintly continues the concept with lyrics such as "Halo of death all i see is departure, mourners lament but its me whos the martyr"
Drapery falls also contains conceptual lyrics such as "Please remedy my confusion
And thrust me back to the day" and "Pull me down again And guide me into pain". In Dirge for November there are lyrics such as "The omen showed, took me away
Preparations are done, this can't last". The Funeral Portrait contains conceptual lyrics like "I'm greeting my downward fall Leaving the throes to others" and finally Blackwater Park is pretty much all conceptual lyrics, talking about the path to death.

This is just how i felt the album concepts went, they are not exactly clear but you can get a faint idea about what they are about.

[QUOTE=amostbitterseason]This is a very belated response, but he named his daughter Melinda. Maybe thats the reason?[/QUOTE]
thats exactly why and tis is kool how finaly they have a good thread about a good band i love opeth , i personaly own blackwater park and ****ation and my band plays alot fo there songs , awesome band even the producer in the dvd says that even fi u dont like metal ull love opeth just for how great musicians they are.

I love the riff in "Master Apprentice", but that's about it.......I think their drummer over-uses his double-pedal

To Opeth Oasis:
Blackwater Park isn't a concept album in the way that you put it, ie there is no story connecting the songs to eachother. I could try and explain some stuff if you like, but I'm about to go to work (on New Years :() so it'll have to wait.

read at the end, thats how I as an individual felt about the albums, you are probably right though, there isnt really a concept, thanks for always correcting me though, you improve my knowledge

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]Just so you know, that's a quote from Voltaire, not a Family Guy episode.[/QUOTE]




I am well aware of that and thanks for trying to get technical with me :thumb: And I could of been like everyone else and put his name under that quote...I didn't feel like it. But you see, I took that quote from a Family Guy episode, and Peter Griffin [I]did[/I] say that so whats the difference?

And to whoever was talking about Opeth's AntiChristianLyrics...who cares if Opeth has anti-christian lyrics, have you watched TV lately? Id rather listen to slightly retarded chipmukns with down syndrome fight over a torn paper bag at 4 a.m. then watch any of that RAP/realityTV/fake hollywood drama bull****.



Post Script: FTW










"I like cookies"
-Flynn-

Does anyone know of any bands out there that have the same type of sound as Opeth? I've heard Novembre was similar, but I haven't heard any of their material.

but opeth DON'T have antichristian lyrics so theres nothing to care or worry about and bands that sound like opeth, ummm if you find the right ayreon song you have a similarity

[QUOTE=Animosity_62]I love the riff in "Master Apprentice", but that's about it.......I think their drummer over-uses his double-pedal[/QUOTE]

no way, have you listened to their stuff? I will admit that on Deliverance, Lopez did go crazy on the drumming, but he did it with style, listen to an album like Still Life, where there isn't a great deal of double-kick action going on. Listen to Blackwater Park, same deal. MAYH is the only other album where he could've over-used it, but IMO, over-usage of double kick isn't bad, especially when you have class anf style about it :thumb:

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!

[QUOTE=Flynn]

And to whoever was talking about Opeth's AntiChristianLyrics...who cares if Opeth has anti-christian lyrics, have you watched TV lately? Id rather listen to slightly retarded chipmukns with down syndrome fight over a torn paper bag at 4 a.m. then watch any of that RAP/realityTV/fake hollywood drama bull****.


[/QUOTE]

:lol: funny way to say it.

But no one was saying it in a bad way like " I like Opeth less because they may or may not have some anti-christian themes in their lyrics". But their lyrics are very well-crafted and contain the same range of emotion as the music itself, and there is no reason not to talk about the lyrical themes therein.

a very true statement indeed :thumb:

[QUOTE=Cardboard Headgear]To Opeth Oasis:
Blackwater Park isn't a concept album in the way that you put it, ie there is no story connecting the songs to eachother. I could try and explain some stuff if you like, but I'm about to go to work (on New Years :() so it'll have to wait.[/QUOTE]


Please do tell.

I have examed these lyrics for what seems to be decades and haven't drawn any conclusions yet :/

do any of you have any opeth bootleg mp3s and videos?

[QUOTE]Please do tell.

I have examed these lyrics for what seems to be decades and haven't drawn any conclusions yet :/[/QUOTE]

It's how I felt about the album, some people can agree some not but this is the way it felt to me. Im not the only one, check this link out [url]http://www.opethnet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20[/url] :)

[url]http://www.metalrefuge.com/interviews/opeth.html[/url]

how awesome is that, in that interview, mikael says he would love to tour with TOOL, that would ****ing rock

i reckon lol it better happen

that would be sweet, he even said metallica.

I wouldn't mind seeing them open for these bands. I'm definitely down for their next tour.

i would cross the earth twice just to see a Tool and Opeth concert

i thought it was interesting that he said he doesnt mind people downloading Opeth's music off the net. it shows opeth are really about the music.