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bob the ripper apple. 09-06-2004 09:36 PM

awesome list.. good descriptions

im into ... by your standards... the black metal... or doom metal... but my favorite band is opeth.. and that is in the death metal section. i really dont know about very many bands that have similiare styles as opeth. and i really dont know where to start searching... burzum? mayhem? ... i dont know.. could anyone give me some of the good bands and albums that fit into those kinds of categories so i can test them out?

thenextiommi 09-06-2004 10:30 PM

Dude knows his ****

BlindWriting 09-06-2004 10:34 PM

123
That must have taken a long time to write up.

bob the ripper apple. 09-06-2004 11:03 PM

....

bumskin 09-07-2004 03:58 AM

Someone forgot to mention DeathMetalDiscoPornFunKElectroCore

Kingofdudes 09-07-2004 08:31 AM

[QUOTE=bumskin]Someone forgot to mention DeathMetalDiscoPornFunKElectroCore[/QUOTE]

Dont be gay

Bartender 09-07-2004 10:00 AM

[QUOTE=legion88]tell me more about NSBM bands... I'm quite into nazi techno at the moment, but I used to be a bit of a black metal kid.[/QUOTE]

[url]www.nsbm.org[/url]

BlindWriting 09-07-2004 11:09 AM

My bad, I thought Legion88 was talking about the actual list at the beginning of the thread.

Silenius 09-07-2004 05:12 PM

Can anyone reccomend some good metalcore, I just got a Unearth cd and I like what I hear.

chuck6969 09-07-2004 05:29 PM

well, since im no good at reading comprehension, which metal is the fastest, luders and harderst, or just has the coolets music parts to them

Silenius 09-07-2004 05:42 PM

**** it. I heard some more metalcore and it sucks.

Kingofdudes 09-07-2004 05:43 PM

[QUOTE=chuck6969]well, since im no good at reading comprehension, which metal is the fastest, luders and harderst, or just has the coolets music parts to them[/QUOTE]

....has too much to do with opinion, you will have to find out for yourself

HNLzero 09-07-2004 05:44 PM

[url]http://www.entertainment.inuk.com/music/genreguides.html#anchor33720[/url]

DONT KNOW 09-07-2004 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=br3ad_man]Thats a great list.....we also need Power Metal and Hair Metal. There are prolly others, but thats what I can think of now.[/QUOTE]
you make a GOOD POINT ABOUT POWER METAL BECAUSE I AM A HUGE SLAYER FAN AND EVERY ONE SAYS THERE DEATH METAL BUT THERE REALLY NOT THERE MORE GUITAR AND VOCALS AND I LIKE BANDS NOT MUSIC

Bartender 09-07-2004 07:11 PM

What?

xeulogyxunearthx 09-08-2004 05:48 PM

[QUOTE] #1014
high_voltage_acdc
Die Baphomet Horde




Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 368 **** it. I heard some more metalcore and it sucks. [/QUOTE]


what else did you hear. Unearth is simply amazing. i know you gave up but go to [url]www.Allthatremains.cc[/url] and youll here some good metalcore..

unearth and all that remains, as well as killswitch engage and since the flood are from Massachusetts, i suggest you try gettin into some of this, [url]www.massconcerts.com[/url]<<<scroll down till you see unearth.

black_sabbath634 09-08-2004 06:06 PM

what genere is shadows fall

Kingofdudes 09-08-2004 06:17 PM

Metalcore

bob the ripper apple. 09-08-2004 07:19 PM

i got a black dahlia murder cd called.... i forgot.. somethin about ... unhallowed or somethin... dont know.. i dont like these vocals very much.. any recommendations on some more melodic bands?

in the same type of genre with guitars and stuff.... in flames? havent heard much.

MyWoodWorm 09-08-2004 07:25 PM

Looks really good.

xeulogyxunearthx 09-08-2004 07:34 PM

oh yea, shadows fall is from Mass. too. they are good. in flames are really good guitarists . i think they are among the best out of europe . one band you should check out is unearth if you havent already. just a suggestion.

Phil Anselmo 09-08-2004 08:00 PM

is metalcore the same thing as nu-metal?

Kwash2 09-08-2004 08:05 PM

[QUOTE=DONT KNOW]you make a GOOD POINT ABOUT POWER METAL BECAUSE I AM A HUGE SLAYER FAN AND EVERY ONE SAYS THERE DEATH METAL BUT THERE REALLY NOT THERE MORE GUITAR AND VOCALS AND I LIKE BANDS NOT MUSIC[/QUOTE]
Actually, about 90% of people on here call them Thrash.

Phil Anselmo 09-08-2004 08:14 PM

hahahah what a dumbass, slayer is thrash metal

bob the ripper apple. 09-08-2004 08:28 PM

the " nu metal " that i listen to seems to be slower than metal core. nu metal.. ex.. korn, disturbed,slipknot, otep.... metal core... ex... . black dahlia murder.. atreyu... from autumn to ashes...

Bartender 09-08-2004 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=Phil Anselmo]is metalcore the same thing as nu-metal?[/QUOTE]

No, they're different things. If you go to the Punk forum, there's a stickied thread (I think) called Hardcore/Metalcore Education.

dav28 09-09-2004 12:58 AM

metalcore is more like avenged sevenfold and stuff like that

found this online
A more heavy metal-oriented offshoot of hardcore punk, metalcore developed in the 1990's, perhaps exemplified by Hatebreed. In most cases, metalcore combines the heavy, crunching riffs of 90's metal with screamed vocals and often politically charged lyrical content.

Like most forms of heavy metal music metalcore is sometimes loosely or arbitrarily defined.

Other proponents include Converge, All Out War, Integrity, Zao, Poison the Well, Botch, Norma Jean Creation is Crucifixion, Dillinger Escape Plan, Daughters and Eighteen Visions.

like atreyu etc

dav28 09-09-2004 12:59 AM

found this 2



Beyond the pronouced hip-hop influence, Nu Metal has--like most forms of heavy metal music--proven somewhat difficult to define. Some fans and musicians have a firm concept of genre and subgenre, but others reject such categorization as unnessesary, limiting or useless. There is often significant crossover from one category to another, and often the influence of non-metal music.

Some heavy metal fans do not consider nu metal a form of heavy metal music at all, arguing the genre is too diluted from what they consider "true" heavy metal, further noting that nu metal guitarists typically forgo traditional metal guitar technique, including both soloing and the riff style most associated with the older styles of metal. Other heavy metal fans, however, reject these arguments, citing rock music's long history of incorporating disparate elements--including jazz, experimental music and world music--out of curiosity or genuine appreciation for other musical genres.

While Deftones and Korn are typically cited as the genre's instigators, bands like Faith No More, Rage Against The Machine and Cubanate are cited as progenitors. Some fans have noted the influence of even earlier artists, such as Prong and Tool.

Gotkookie 09-09-2004 01:53 AM

[QUOTE=bob the ripper apple.]the " nu metal " that i listen to seems to be slower than metal core. nu metal.. ex.. korn, disturbed,slipknot, otep.... metal core... ex... . black dahlia murder.. atreyu... from autumn to ashes...[/QUOTE]
no. shut up, before you make yourself look more stupid.

nu metal = soad, etc...

metalcore = Converge, Dep, the bled, norma jean, between the buried and me, etc..

Invicta_Veritas 09-09-2004 12:11 PM

ok what specifically would lamb of god be defined as.........just a quick question

schweinhunt 09-09-2004 12:42 PM

[QUOTE=dav28]found this 2



Beyond the pronouced hip-hop influence, Nu Metal has--like most forms of heavy metal music--proven somewhat difficult to define. Some fans and musicians have a firm concept of genre and subgenre, but others reject such categorization as unnessesary, limiting or useless. There is often significant crossover from one category to another, and often the influence of non-metal music.

Some heavy metal fans do not consider nu metal a form of heavy metal music at all, arguing the genre is too diluted from what they consider "true" heavy metal, further noting that nu metal guitarists typically forgo traditional metal guitar technique, including both soloing and the riff style most associated with the older styles of metal. Other heavy metal fans, however, reject these arguments, citing rock music's long history of incorporating disparate elements--including jazz, experimental music and world music--out of curiosity or genuine appreciation for other musical genres.

While Deftones and Korn are typically cited as the genre's instigators, bands like Faith No More, Rage Against The Machine and Cubanate are cited as progenitors. Some fans have noted the influence of even earlier artists, such as Prong and Tool.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a load of bullsh*t from allmusic.com or somewhere, confusing cultural definitions with musical definitions.

Heavy metal is driven by riffs! This definition alone can include everything from Helloween to Darkthrone. Mallcore like Korn and Linkin Park doesn't even know the word "riff". A lot of punk rock is a lot heavier than those, yet no-one considers them metal - especially hardcore punk ie. Discharge, The Exploited, Sick of it All... Mallcore is merely driven by vocals/chords - that's rock, not metal. 90s noise-plagued, scream-filled, modern rock. Whoever invented "everything with distortion is heavy metal" is no Edison. If you have a more useful definition, by all means present it.

And if you consider The Roots groove-laden music as rap, then why not also RATM?

DavidBowieWasHere 09-09-2004 12:50 PM

What about . . . ?
 
Goth metal and Alt-metal? :confused: I don't mean to be a prick or anything, just asking . . . I kinda think in this one goth was pretty much wrapped up in black metal. That's what it seems like to me.


Just in case anyone's wondering what I mean, goth metal, to me, is Blind Guardian and such. (If anyone's already addressed this issue, you can ignore this post; I was just too lazy to read all the posts. *LOL*)

bob the ripper apple. 09-09-2004 01:57 PM

blind guardian? goth metal? nah i call their genre fantasy metal. goth metal?? hmm cradle of filth... not many others come to mind at this moment....

Bartender 09-09-2004 02:17 PM

Blind Guardian are power metal, and Cradle of Filth are black metal (though if rumours are true, they're playing melodic death now). Goth metal is bands like later Paradise Lost, Lacuna Coil, Type O Negative, I think.

bob the ripper apple. 09-09-2004 02:23 PM

i put blind guardian and opeth in the same category... maybe im weird i donno, what are some bands that are similiar to them?

Invicta_Veritas 09-09-2004 02:25 PM

type o would be considered goth metal, would it not?

that or goth rock, whichever you prefer. some people might not consider them any kind of metal, which could be understandable

Kingofdudes 09-09-2004 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=atreyu_breakingbenjamin]ok what specifically would lamb of god be defined as.........just a quick question[/QUOTE]

Metalcore

schweinhunt 09-09-2004 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=bob the ripper apple.]i put blind guardian and opeth in the same category... maybe im weird i donno, what are some bands that are similiar to them?[/QUOTE]
Considering I love one of them, and consider the other as one of the worst bands ever, I doubt they barely have any similarities.

xeulogyxunearthx 09-09-2004 05:03 PM

between the buried and me? metalcore? i think they are belong in the same genre of glass casket. whatever it may be, but my opinion isnt metalcore.

alright this topic has confused me. these are my favorite bands, i dont what to call my music now now. i would just usually metal/hardcore +or- some of the screamo, fata)

all that remains, avenged sevenfold, atreyu, btbam,glass casket, killswitch engage, unearth, since the flood, f.a.t.a., poisne the well, shadows fall, amon amarth, in flames, . and older stuff metallica, black sabbath led zepps

i still call myself metalcore/hardcore, but this thread has changed the titles around, not that it matters, i just dont wanna have to explain who i like when i asked, i could just give the title

Stoic 09-09-2004 05:39 PM

Da.mn a lot of people lately seem to confuse goth with power...


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