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Moses 05-21-2005 10:05 AM

Anyone mind assessing my progmetal entry?

sexycakes 05-21-2005 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]Feedback?

/Bump to get noticed.[/QUOTE]


umm...

the majority of it is just off beat noise.
I kinda like the buzzing sounds in one of the parts.

Your drummer is off alot
Or you
Either way, it doesn't sound tight.

All in all, i think you tried so hard to be prog that the song doesnt even sound like a song. Dynamics are nonexsistant, and dynamics make everything.

just my humble opinion

dUSK 05-21-2005 11:28 AM

Did anyone else notice that on that Aiden guys site he quoted Maynard as James Maynard Keenan. I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. I always thought his real name was James Herbert Keenan, and Maynard was a name he adopted because he was a war hero of his or something.

Am I wrong?

YouGottaBeCrazy 05-21-2005 11:41 AM

You are correct. His real name is James Herbert Keenan. It was probably just a typo.

Magicaltroll 05-21-2005 11:50 AM

I always hear people call him Maynard James Keenan.
And yeah, I know thats not his real name.

dUSK 05-21-2005 11:53 AM

Ok, thats what I thought. It seems odd to me that someone so interested in Tool would make that kind of mistake. Thanks anyway guys.

Dr. Jake Destructo 05-21-2005 11:02 PM

Ben, when you did the splicing and whatnot, did you add in the dynamic curves like Aiden did?

(I'm not sure if they're called dynamic curves, but I saw a couple of diagrams on the site, and it looked like he did some kind of wierd deal with the volume throughout each track.)

Futuro 05-21-2005 11:04 PM

volume envolopes is there "official name"

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Ben, when you did the splicing and whatnot, did you add in the dynamic curves like Aiden did?

(I'm not sure if they're called dynamic curves, but I saw a couple of diagrams on the site, and it looked like he did some kind of wierd deal with the volume throughout each track.)[/QUOTE]

I tried. i copied the diagrams exactly at first, then when i understood what they did, i messed about a bit myself. The end result was a half good, half original version, thats neither my own mix, nor the example demonstarted.

Take 2 on uploading starting now, stupid thing wont zip down.

And otherside, much thanks again, ill d/l and watch tommorrow. My friend will be very pleased, and we've even managed to get more people into it

Magicaltroll 05-22-2005 12:25 PM

So whos posting the spliced version of Lateralus up?

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 12:31 PM

Re read my post :p

Magicaltroll 05-22-2005 12:35 PM

Oh ok, I only read the bottom part, sorry :D

Dried Muffin Remnants 05-22-2005 12:36 PM

Oooo ****, that'd be awesome.

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]Oooo ****, that'd be awesome.[/QUOTE]

Dont get your hopes up. I dont like most of it, but im uploading at least what i've done. When i get a new soundcard on the go, ill do a proper job. No sound hampers this process. :(

And nice av btw, good to see Tool fans still have great musical taste

clearvision 05-22-2005 12:56 PM

DJ Shadow owns, i got his albums yesterday... :cool:

Genre of the month is most definateley trip-hop....mezzanin, dummy and both shadow albums...what next?

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 12:59 PM

Trip-hop can be so hit and miss with me, some tracks off big trip-hop albums get me straightaway, and others are skipped quickly. Makes it hard to get into any particular artist. Shadow is slightly more consistent for my ears though, least his diversity stays within my tastes

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 01:07 PM

Oh, and to repay anyone who has uploaded anything to me, or posted in here for a while, or are just drop dead beautiful, look whats back up again

[url]http://www.musictelevisionsucks.net[/url]

More tool videos ready to download. Im seeing if they work after getting Samurai Champloo down

Dried Muffin Remnants 05-22-2005 01:09 PM

Blue Lines by Massive and S/T by Portishead are good too.

But I LOVE Dummy, Mezzanine, and Endtroducing. There are so many recognizable tunes in it.

CV-- Is Shadow's other album as good as Endtroducing? As long as it's almost as good that's cool, because Endtro was brilliant.

clearvision 05-22-2005 01:14 PM

It's only had one listen, not as good as Entro but still top notch..

I'm yet to find a trip-hop song that matches teardrop though...

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]Blue Lines by Massive and S/T by Portishead are good too.

But I LOVE Dummy, Mezzanine, and Endtroducing. There are so many recognizable tunes in it.

CV-- Is Shadow's other album as good as Endtroducing? As long as it's almost as good that's cool, because Endtro was brilliant.[/QUOTE]

Private Press? Its not bad, but there are some tracks on there that grate on my ears. For recommendations though, its got

6 Days
Walkie Talkie
You Cant Go Home Again

Best tracks on it, good variety

clearvision 05-22-2005 01:20 PM

six days is great...may have to check out blue lines

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 01:47 PM

[URL=http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ETLNG57V4K6W17U2N3WIT7R8W]The (not so) Holy Gift[/URL]

Moses 05-22-2005 02:35 PM

You all should visit my Chopin Education Thread. Prog fans will love the Ballade in G minor.

Dried Muffin Remnants 05-22-2005 02:36 PM

Pretty cool, man. You experimented more at the beginning and sort of let the ship take its course for the remainder of the album. Sweet.

Reywas 05-22-2005 02:47 PM

Have you guys tried Tricky?He has like 8 albums.First four are very good.Also if you're interested in trip hop check out
Lovage - Music to make love to your old lady by.It's a Mike Patton side project so you know it must be good and Archive - Londinium, supposedly the best trip hop album ever created.Unfortunately it is very rare even on slsk.
And just for the record Risingson, Group Four, Angel >>> Teardrop IMO.

Reywas 05-22-2005 02:49 PM

Have you guys tried Tricky?He has like 8 albums.First four are very good.Also if you're interested in trip hop check out
Lovage - Music to make love to your old lady by.It's a Mike Patton side project so you know it must be good and Archive - Londinium, supposedly the best trip hop album ever created.Unfortunately it is very rare even on slsk.
And just for the record Risingson, Group Four, Angel >>> Teardrop IMO.

Huber 05-22-2005 03:04 PM

That Holy Gift thing is pretty awesome. It isn't so amazing that I think it was meant to be done like that though. I bet if anyone takes an album as epic as Lateralus and thinks about it long enough and tries hard enough they could do the same thing.

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 03:08 PM

Just when i was doing it, looking at the way the tracks shaped up looked so intended. I used to be sceptical behind any deeper ideas behind the record, but it looks like it really was prepared to be toyed with and investigated with further.

There are so many ways to link the tracks, I could go for loads of orders, That order though had the most story and thought behind (the website is really something)

Dried Muffin Remnants 05-22-2005 03:10 PM

[QUOTE=Nobuo>>>>=God]Have you guys tried Tricky?He has like 8 albums.First four are very good.Also if you're interested in trip hop check out
Lovage - Music to make love to your old lady by.It's a Mike Patton side project so you know it must be good and Archive - Londinium, supposedly the best trip hop album ever created.Unfortunately it is very rare even on slsk.
And just for the record Risingson, Group Four, Angel >>> Teardrop IMO.[/QUOTE]

I've heard some of Tricky's solo stuff, but personally I like his work with Massive Attack a lot more.

And on your Mezzanine comment, I think that Risingson, Inertia Creeps, Dissolved Girl, Angel, and Teardrop are the best songs on the album. Inertia Creeps is probably my favorite.

Perhaps I need to check out some more Tricky? But if you haven't checked it out already, check out Endtroducing by DJ Shadow. Napalm Brain/Scatter Brain, Midnight In A Perfect World, Building Steam With A Grain Of Salt, Organ Donor, and The Number Song are ALL great songs.

Reywas 05-22-2005 03:10 PM

Yeah but how Schism goes into Grudge and Triad into Leeches is pretty ******* incredible.


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