Probably started by Arucard, comin in here trying to fill our heads with lies.

some weeks ago i said dimmu borgir is black and a friend who is a big fan told me they are death... since then i'm confused, like you

Death? That's just an ignorant comment, they aren't death metal at all. There isn't much symphonic death metal, if any, the vocals aren't death, the guitar isn't death, I don't see what's death metal about it. Show him some Arch Enemy or something for what melodic death metal would be, it's certainly not Dimmu Borgir.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]Probably started by Arucard, comin in here trying to fill our heads with lies.[/QUOTE]


Yea I was really suprised that he came in here and did that. He usually has respect for other bands.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]Death? That's just an ignorant comment, they aren't death metal at all. There isn't much symphonic death metal, if any, the vocals aren't death, the guitar isn't death, I don't see what's death metal about it. Show him some Arch Enemy or something for what melodic death metal would be, it's certainly not Dimmu Borgir.[/QUOTE]
i know... i was surprised that he said they are death. for me they are definetly Black Metal. The only thing is that this guy know what metal is, he listens to a lot of bands and therefore i always thought his knowledge about metal is bigger than mine. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=IheartSP]In fear of getting torn apart in the black metal thread I figured I would post this here...

Why is Dimmu Borgir not Black Metal? I have heard their first two albums were, and all I have heard is Death Cult Armageddon. For the most part it sounds like a black metal album, the vocals are similar to Abbath's of Immortal becuase they both sound like frogs croaking :p and the guitar riffs seem to have that black metal simplicity to them. The keyboards are pretty symphonic which a lot of people complain about, but the overall sound is basically just Emporer with good production. I don't really see what isn't Black Metal about it.

Btw I really do like the album, I think Dimmu could score a movie...[/QUOTE]

I am not sure who told you, or where you have seen that "Dimmu Borgir" is not Black Metal. As far as I can tell they are one of the best Black Metal bands out there these days. Alot of newer Black Metal bands have grew from Dimmu. Death Cult isn't their best though... the Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia album is absolutely amazing. Anyone who does not have it I highly suggest getting it.

P.S. they did score a movie hahaha. Okay, not a movie entirely, just a concert. They have a DVD thing out that contains two DVD's and a live CD... which I own, and it is amazing.

I'll definately check out that album

Reading the reviews on Metal Archives someone said suttin like, this is metal, not Lord of the Rings. I thought that was a dumb comment becuase the "lord of the rings" keyboards are what makes it so insanely cool, plus metal is veyr closely related to classical and orchestral music.

Dimmu Borgir isn't black metal because they aren't (for lack of a better term) "tr00" enough. The ignorant people will balk at any keyboards in black metal, and immediately claim it fake.

I personally don't think their newer stuff is black metal though...it sounds a lot different, and not just because of the keys. The riffs are uncharacteristic of BM.

so what are they?

I've not listened to them too much but from what I have heard I would really only classify them as Black Metal.

here is another of my random thoughts...I've been thinking it alot as of late.

I think metal (at this point in time) has some of the greatest musicians in the world. What would you all say about that?

[QUOTE=Britton]
here is another of my random thoughts...I've been thinking it alot as of late.

I think metal (at this point in time) has some of the greatest musicians in the world. What would you all say about that?[/QUOTE]

From what I listen to, I would have to agree with you, there are so many great musicians that play metal, and so many (not so great) musicians that play other styles of music.

If Dimmu isn't Black Metal then for lack of a better term they are Extreme Symphonic Metal, although I don't liek that label because it is jsut a genre prefix and suffix put together, with no real genre in the middle. I think the whole "tr00" thing is stupid becuase just becuase it isn't "tr00" Black Metal doesn't mean it's not Black Metal at all. If it happens to be well produced Symphonic Black Metal such as Dimmu, then it is still Black Metal nonetheless, tr00 or not.

[quote=Man_Made_God]I snagged a warmen album.... Good stuff.[/quote]

Warmen is AWESOME. I love Accept the Fact, but unfourtunately that's the only album I own by them.

Maybe the best way to classify a band is by they're name.

Dimmu Borgir...I mean that says it all.

Children of Bodom...that says it all.

But then again if you haven't heard them before you would need a way to genre-ize them...so I guess we are screwed either way.

/agrees with Britton.

[QUOTE=King_Of_Terrors]/agrees with Britton.[/QUOTE]


Hey man you are doing a great job with that mailing list.

What are you planing on sending out this week. I might be able to help with some of it.

I'm not sure...

What do you think I should do?

Have you done any Bodom?

Send out some more Dimmu for me, I'd love Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia, or see what their early stuff is like, such as Stormblast.

A band's name can be misleading, for example Bodom. If you know anything about the Bodom incident, Power Metal is certainly not the first thing that would come to mind, while Death Metal would be more appropriate. Bodom happens to not be Death Metal at all. Dimmu Borgir I would think Black Metal just becuase any kind of phrase in another language like that usually means it's from some Scandinavian country, and you know how all those Black Metal bands love to speak in non-english languages.

Could you do Hatebreeder? It's the only COB album I don't have. I only have 3 songs off of it.

Check this out

[url]http://www.youtube.com/w/Alexi-Laiho-Owned?v=Ccbdct5jEWg&search=Alexi%20Laiho[/url]

Oops...

[QUOTE=Britton]Could you do Hatebreeder? It's the only COB album I don't have. I only have 3 songs off of it.

Check this out

[url]http://www.youtube.com/w/Alexi-Laiho-Owned?v=Ccbdct5jEWg&search=Alexi%20Laiho[/url]

Oops...[/QUOTE]
:lol: good stuff

old

[QUOTE=I_am_hated]old[/QUOTE]


When did that happen?

I love the youtube website

im not sure when it happened but its been a while,wasnt it linked on here at one time cuz someone said it was planned out for him to do that

To do what?

What he does in that video (I won't spoil it).

yeh what he does in that video

[QUOTE=I_am_hated]im not sure when it happened but its been a while,wasnt it linked on here at one time cuz someone said it was planned out for him to do that[/QUOTE]


I'm not sure why he would plan to do that...He did 4 or 5 times when I saw them
and screwing up a guitar spin s embarresing.

Oh I see.

[QUOTE=Britton]I'm not sure why he would plan to do that...He did 4 or 5 times when I saw them
and screwing up a guitar spin s embarresing.[/QUOTE]
And unlike our good pal Yngwie he doesn't look like a bufoon doing it :p

So you won't bother to tell me what your talking about?

He does a guitar spin and messes it up.

[QUOTE=King_Of_Terrors]So you won't bother to tell me what your talking about?[/QUOTE]


Right here my man


[url]http://www.youtube.com/w/Alexi-Laiho-Owned?v=Ccbdct5jEWg&search=Alexi%20Laiho[/url]

It's funny right?

yngwie does look kinda dumb with a guitar...

i think its intresting

[QUOTE=Britton]Right here my man


[url]http://www.youtube.com/w/Alexi-Laiho-Owned?v=Ccbdct5jEWg&search=Alexi%20Laiho[/url]

It's funny right?

yngwie does look kinda dumb with a guitar...[/QUOTE]
Yngwie looks kinda dumb all the time, hes a fat greasy animal in leather pants.

Guitar spins are pretty pointless.

But on a completely unrelated note, I <3 Cryptopsy! These riffs are completely defiling.

[QUOTE=IheartSP]Yngwie looks kinda dumb all the time, hes a fat greasy animal in leather pants.[/QUOTE]


Haha owned

You Unleashed the fury

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Guitar spins are pretty pointless.

But on a completely unrelated note, I <3 Cryptopsy! These riffs are completely defiling.[/QUOTE]

Cryptopsy is an awesome band indeed. OWN owns (lolz pun).

[QUOTE=toaster135]Cryptopsy is an awesome band indeed. OWN owns (lolz pun).[/QUOTE]
Haha, I've been thinking about that pun for quite some time now. I must now go on a voyage to obtain as many of their albums as possible, along with some sweet merch.

NP: Flame to the Surafce!

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Haha, I've been thinking about that pun for quite some time now. I must now go on a voyage to obtain as many of their albums as possible, along with some sweet merch.

NP: Flame to the Surafce![/QUOTE]


So how good are they>?