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Kage 06-25-2005 07:56 PM

[URL=http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=06C6DGG290F6327ITLQG2BIQPY]Katatonia - Criminals[/URL]
[URL=http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D28ZVLHUA7752ZIY1SYBN7SCY]Katatonia - Ghost of the Sun[/URL]
[URL=http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=196FEHEG9KBE41JS45UKW9DZER]Katatonia - Nightmares by the Sea[/url]
[URL=http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HLS97OKUN6YJ2TJ6DT0D4XLXS]Katatonia - Burn the Remembrance[/URL]

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-25-2005 07:59 PM

Oh, hey, by the way Kage- I DLed 2 of the the 3 Isis songs that you uploaded for me a couple weeks ago. I didn't find them quite as good as everyone makes them seem. [I]In Fiction[/I] was the better of the 2 ([I]Catalyst[/I] was the other) but I still found it very slow, and it just seemed to drag on. I felt as if I was anticipating something that wasn't going to come...Same thing with [I]Catalyst[/I]. Couple powerchords, some feedback, and a few growls. :-/ Maybe I just need to give the songs a few more listens.

:lol: This thread has become the community thread, and the community thread has become the Tool thread. Interesting.

EDIT: I forgot to celebrate 4k! :upset:

I'm listening to [I]In Fiction [/I] again. The section from about 4 minutes to the end reminds me a lot of the Aussie band Cog. Pretty much everything but the vocals sounds extremely remeniscient of the band. The song is growing on me...Which album of thier's would you reccomend me? I hear a lot about Panapticon or something. Is that one good?

45% on the DL of Criminals. :-/ :mollasses:

Kage 06-25-2005 08:05 PM

Isis is my least favorite of that breed of band. Personally, I like the slow, droning, building sound. Even if there is no reward.

Here's a song from a band called Pelican, which is similar, but in my opinion better. Also, they are instrumental:
[url]http://www.stonerrock.com/jukebox/Pelican-Mammoth.mp3[/url]

Mouth of the Architect is an amazing band in my opinion. More atmospheric, but still droning and heavy. I just love that style for some reason:
[url]http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/4212/index.php[/url]

Kage 06-25-2005 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I'm listening to [I]In Fiction [/I] again. The section from about 4 minutes to the end reminds me a lot of the Aussie band Cog. Pretty much everything but the vocals sounds extremely remeniscient of the band. The song is growing on me...Which album of thier's would you reccomend me? I hear a lot about Panapticon or something. Is that one good?

45% on the DL of Criminals. :-/ :mollasses:[/QUOTE]
I would say Panopticon, yes, but Oceanic is also very good. Panopticon is going to be more dynamic, but Oceanic is heavier.

Ugh...you're on dial up tonight, eh?

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-25-2005 08:15 PM

Ok, I've given [I]Catalyst[/I] another listen, and I have concluded that it sounds a lot like Slipknot, but slower. :p The vocals are double trackedin places, which makes for some interesting harmonies, if you will. Other than that, I'd say I'm fonder of In [I]Fiction.[/I]

I'll download those other 4 songs tonight some time. 5 more percents and the song will be done!

Dude, I'm always on dialup! :lol:

[I]Criminals[/I] was a pretty good song, though. I liked the simple yet effective guitar effects. Nothing special, but they sounded good one the song.

"It's not like I owe him money"

Kage 06-25-2005 08:20 PM

Hmm.. Slipknot, huh? Can't say I ever saw that connection. In Fiction is a better song than Catalyst...I don't even like Catalyst that much. Like I said, of all the Post-Metal bands I listen to, Isis is my least favorite.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-25-2005 08:26 PM

It was the first thing I tied it with. Knot's vocalist does a lot of that sort of background moaning, gagging, etc..The guitarists in both bands (or just in Catalyst) use the sort of discordant 'one solo in the right ear, another in the left' concept. It can be pulled off well, but I wasn't too fond of the mixing done on that song. Lots of metal bands do that technique (Slayer also comes to mind, but it was more of a Slipknot tempo) but the usually have the solos going at seperate times, but 2 different solos at once. It was interesting to say the least. :lol:

EDIT: Moses, I got your AIM message, I was busy typing out this post to respond before you went off line. Do it when you can. :thumb:

I've decided to lay back on this contest. I told Marshall this, but I might as well share it with everyone. I've been pushing deadlines on people, but whatever, we have 5 weeks. :p

Kage 06-25-2005 08:29 PM

You should listen to Mouth of the Architect. I think they're 10x better than Isis, and I'm an Isis fan.


EDIT: Jake, my AIM is Headshokk7, and I've seen you on and tried to say something, but everytime I message you I never get a response. Just telling you in case you didn't reply because you didn't know who I was.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-25-2005 08:34 PM

I've never seen one of your windows pop up...I think that my AIM is wrong on my profile. I added you right now. See what happens...I'll check out the MotA after dinner. I'm not sure how long I'm gonna be online for.

Moses 06-25-2005 10:22 PM

Well, since it's on the dreaded page 2, this calls for a......

/Bump

My AIM is Letmypeopleho69 if anyone wanted to know..........
And yeah Jake I also just realized we have 5 weeks.

Hehe, page 420 :lol:

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-25-2005 10:30 PM

Yeah...It seems like a long time, but considering that in the 5 or so weeks we've been working on this, we've not finished one song. :-/

We're close I suppose.

/busts out 8 foot bong/totem pole

:confetti:

Dried Muffin Remnants 06-26-2005 12:05 AM

tee hee marijuana roffle mao zedong!1one

clearvision 06-26-2005 04:31 AM

Hmm interesting night...

After recent events (second last page L+R) i couldn't sleep, stayed on MX till about 2 then headed off to bed...

I got about 2 hrs sleep total at about 9:30. I listened to every tool album bar salival, and some dream theater and the cure :emo: I remembered people talking about just sitting there and absorbing the music, so i thought i'd give it a try. I ended up just listening to the drums really, it wasn't really a pleasant experience, i was too fidgety, for it to be cool i'd need to be more relaxed. Also i didn't cue up salival properly, which was not good :(

Dried Muffin Remnants 06-26-2005 11:21 AM

Hey - can somebody find the article about Tool performing at some sort of scientology event a while back? I just thought that the story was hilarious. Something about the band bahhing like sheep at the crowd. :lol:

YouGottaBeCrazy 06-26-2005 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]

Attn. Limp Bizkit has a progressive 16:28 minute song. It's very Toolesque.[/QUOTE]

If you are talking about Everything, than you have no clue what Tool is about. That song is extremely boring to listen to. There's no progression to the song whatsover and frankly, the fact that you say it's Toolesque, pretty much insults Tool to the highest degree. Listen to "Third Eye" and than listen to "Everything." Note the difference. Look man, I respect your opinion, but please stop talking about LB on here. You already started a thread about 3 Dollar Bill Y'all. Yet you post those garbage Durst lyrics in this thread. Why? It's quite unfitting considering the fact that you posted it in a Tool thread, and Tool has very good lyrics (especially on the last 2 cds).

Kage 06-26-2005 12:27 PM

I agree that Everything is actually a pretty boring spurt of ambient noise. But he can talk about it in here if he wants, because this is a more a thread for Tool fans to come together and converse, since not too much is happening Tool-wise.

I guess we could over-analyze every second of Lateralus every day, but there are limits as to how many things we can talk about with literally no news coming from the Tool front.

Mr Herb 06-26-2005 01:12 PM

LB on a tool thread. Thats like John Kerry on the republican convention. Anyways.

Can someone show me a list of the drummers that have perfomed triad lvie with tool.Or at least mention a few?

Dried Muffin Remnants 06-26-2005 01:25 PM

[QUOTE=herbtones]LB on a tool thread. Thats like John Kerry on the republican convention. Anyways.

Can someone show me a list of the drummers that have perfomed triad lvie with tool.Or at least mention a few?[/QUOTE]

LB suck, don't get me wrong. (yes, I have heard more than enough to know what I'm talking about). But, believe it or not, LB were influenced greatly by Tool.

Mr Herb 06-26-2005 02:01 PM

I bet they were but it dont matter cause Fred Durst sucks so much.

Wats yer point dude?

Dried Muffin Remnants 06-26-2005 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=herbtones]I bet they were but it dont matter cause Fred Durst sucks so much.

Wats yer point dude?[/QUOTE]

It means that if Moses wants to talk about LB in here, then he can.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-26-2005 02:07 PM

Kage- Are you on AIM now?

Enough with the Fred Durst hating guys. He is good at what he does.*


























*He's not a musician, he's a marketing man. :lol:

Yeah, and Moses, just because the song is 16 minutes long doesn't make it progressive. Look at Disgustipated. It may be more of a filler track, but either way, it's not a progressive song, even though it is a very long track. I'm sure there are plenty of 5 minute songs that are more progressive than this Limp Bizkit song.

Mr Herb 06-26-2005 02:08 PM

Alright. but i dunno, thats the second or third lpb convo in recent memory, I dont the lp topic should be abused. but w/e, slightly more interesting than all the cover talk.

Dried Muffin Remnants 06-26-2005 02:24 PM

I agree... the cover talk is quite boring,

Lateralias 06-26-2005 02:43 PM

Especially when you don't take part :(

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-26-2005 02:45 PM

Yeah, it's fun when you have something to do with the covers, but I can see how you guys would get bored just watching us have all the fun. :lol:

Mr Herb 06-26-2005 02:57 PM

Hey at least the covers have inspired me to start working on stuff for the band so that I can show it to anyone online. Ive already worked out 3 songs this week :)


I wonder why the covers have taken so lonf, The laterlaus part I heard only needed vocals and some dude had already singed a bit.

Futuro 06-26-2005 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=herbtones]LB on a tool thread. Thats like John Kerry on the republican convention. Anyways.

Can someone show me a list of the drummers that have perfomed triad lvie with tool.Or at least mention a few?[/QUOTE]
thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)

Kage 06-26-2005 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Kage- Are you on AIM now?[/QUOTE]
No.

Doomed To Crumble 06-26-2005 04:03 PM

hey i just heard that 46&2 cover and i just want to say that it was amazing, and extra props to the drummer.:)

Mr Herb 06-26-2005 04:19 PM

:amaze: [QUOTE=faith+1]thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)[/QUOTE] who do they play for?

Darkness 06-26-2005 04:22 PM

Tomas Haake = Meshuggah... very amazingly good drummer.

Futuro 06-26-2005 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=herbtones]:amaze: who do they play for?[/QUOTE]
teryy bozzio = GOD

thomas haake = overplays polyrythms that arent that musical, but is still good

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-26-2005 05:13 PM

Meshuggah is all about playing unmusical stuff, but I greatly admire them for their abilities in collaboratively writing a piece of that fits together, but would not fit anywhere else.

Stengah- I think it's in 13/8 time. wtf? :lol: I think the most impressive part about that song is that their guitarist(s) solo is also in that time sig. It's hard enough to solo as well as they do, but to do it in a funky time sig, that's doubly impressive.

BlindWriting 06-26-2005 05:17 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)[/QUOTE]
Woah. When did that happen?
Dare I ask, is there a video? Or at the very least, pixplzkthx?

BlindWriting 06-26-2005 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Stengah- I think it's in 13/8 time. wtf? :lol:[/QUOTE]
The thing about odd time is that the more you play it, and the more beats that you create in, say, 9/8, 12/8, or even 25/8, which I've been working with recently, the less complex it beings to feel to your ears.

When I first heard Danny Carey and Tomas Haake play in their respective bands, I was boggled by the rhythms and the way they sounded. So, I began dabbling in odd time, starting with the usual 5/4, 7/4. 9/8 type of thing. (I don't consider 6/8 or 3/4 odd.) By the time I was working with weird compound times such as 12/8, 15/8, 26/8, and the like, you begin to understand them, and listen to them, in a much different way.

Once you free yourself from the habit of counting and playing in fours, you'll be surprised at what you can do simply.

To sum it up: practice!

Dried Muffin Remnants 06-26-2005 05:22 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]thomas haake and terry bozzio are the only ones i now of but im sure there has been more :)[/QUOTE]

Terry Bozzio? He may be the best drummer who ever lived in my eyes.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-26-2005 05:23 PM

[QUOTE=herbtones]

I wonder why the covers have taken so lonf, The laterlaus part I heard only needed vocals and some dude had already singed a bit.[/QUOTE]

We're not using that one. The drums are MIDI. The guy that posted it never showed up again, so I don't think we should use it. :shrug: Plus, we have a perfectly good drum track already, so why would we want to use the MIDI drums?

Who does Terry Bozzio play for?

BW- The hard part is constructing something listenable out of it.

BlindWriting 06-26-2005 05:28 PM

Bozzio played for Frank Zappa, I believe. He had a song called The Black Page which is one of his most famous drum solos. Overall, still one of the best living players.

ThePatient 06-26-2005 06:35 PM

I think I'll be good to go with the Ticks & Leeches cover if anyone wanted to put that together. There's just parts in there where I can't here a thing on the bass, so little parts may be self-written.

*waits for Joz to pop in with a recording playing the song behind his back*

Futuro 06-26-2005 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]The thing about odd time is that the more you play it, and the more beats that you create in, say, 9/8, 12/8, or even 25/8, which I've been working with recently, the less complex it beings to feel to your ears.

When I first heard Danny Carey and Tomas Haake play in their respective bands, I was boggled by the rhythms and the way they sounded. So, I began dabbling in odd time, starting with the usual 5/4, 7/4. 9/8 type of thing. (I don't consider 6/8 or 3/4 odd.) By the time I was working with weird compound times such as 12/8, 15/8, 26/8, and the like, you begin to understand them, and listen to them, in a much different way.

Once you free yourself from the habit of counting and playing in fours, you'll be surprised at what you can do simply.

To sum it up: practice![/QUOTE]

your odd times suck .....go to the drumforum and learn how to count properly cause 25/8 is just playing 5 bars of 5, which would be easier, and if its impossible to count your 25 rythm in 5 explain how you are counting and i will tell you if you are right, and if im just being an a[SIZE=2]sshole[/SIZE].


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