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Lord Abortion 04-25-2006 11:39 AM

I like Disappear best off the first 6DOIT disk

Jev 04-25-2006 11:40 AM

Same here.
I figured out the first 3 chords to it :p

Charmand G 04-25-2006 11:52 AM

Fine musicians that, as many other bands, have made the same record about six or seven times, just backwards and with different hair. I don`t question their ability to play (obvious), but that their songs are very boring and in the middle of all genres at the same time. Scale-wanking and cheesy synths doesn`t do it for me.

Jev 04-25-2006 11:53 AM

How have they made the same album 6 or 7 times? I think Images & Words and Awake sound similar but every other album is different.

Charmand G 04-25-2006 12:00 PM

Most likely if you`re very into the band, as I can tell the difference between all of Cannibal Corpse`s albums, while others hear just growl and drums.
The drummer in my band is a sworn fan of DT, so I`ve heard every album. Too clinical, too cheesy, bad vocals, still scale-wanking... It`s the way it tastes to me, but thats what makes good discourses, right. ;)

nowitzki 04-25-2006 12:01 PM

You probably couldn't have picked a worse example of a band that makes the same record over and over.

Charmand G 04-25-2006 06:54 PM

If I want complex metal, I think Cryptopsy does it with way more punch and better vocals. :) I saw one of DT`s dvds a while ago, it`s actually most fun when they **** it up, or Portnoy loose a stick, but that`s the action you`ll get. Myung has his pokerface, Portnoy spits around, LaBrie take walks, Rudess swings his keyboard around while staring at his LCD, and Petrucci....yeah, you get the point.

ghettoeddo 04-25-2006 10:28 PM

music, last time i checked, isn't visual.
sure, it helps to have an engaging live act.
but they do. go to the show...you will NOT be bored.
they're not ... "the who" or maiden or GWAR by any means, but i don't think that would fit the music.

how hard would it be to play what they do jumping around everywhere? i find it difficult to play a single-string riff evenly and cleanly jumping around.

Jev 04-26-2006 01:07 AM

I'm sure they could jump about, check their really early videos, like when they where in Majesty, even Myung is jumping about, they just chose not to and it doesn't bother me at all.

DimebagDarrell 04-26-2006 03:30 AM

Hello people..

i have been listening to dream theater alot lately again and i wouldnt mind knowing what album to get next, i have train of thought, metropolis: scenes, images and words and awake.

Out of those ones i like ToT and metropolis the most

so if you can help it wouldbe much appreciated cheers

nowitzki 04-26-2006 03:33 AM

I'd go for Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence.

Laztec 04-26-2006 07:32 AM

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]I'm sure they could jump about, check their really early videos, like when they where in Majesty, even Myung is jumping about, they just chose not to and it doesn't bother me at all.[/QUOTE]


Woah, where can I get that video?

Charmand G 04-26-2006 09:11 AM

[QUOTE=Laztec]Woah, where can I get that video?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, me too. I`m interested. I`v seen Spiral Arcitect moving around heavily onstage, so I suppose DT could do it to. Whatever, the main concern is the music, and I don`t like it. It`s very simple.

Jev 04-26-2006 09:21 AM

[QUOTE=Laztec]Woah, where can I get that video?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure, I think they played it at one of their gigs and parts of it is on the 2nd DVD of LATB I believe.

nowitzki 04-26-2006 09:32 AM

They're pretty active on I&W: Live in Tokyo.

RideTheSpiral 04-26-2006 10:04 AM

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]I'm not sure, I think they played it at one of their gigs and parts of it is on the 2nd DVD of LATB I believe.[/QUOTE]


Yeah JM is going crazy its pretty funny.

bwnstl 04-26-2006 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=Charmand G]Yeah, me too. I`m interested. I`v seen Spiral Arcitect moving around heavily onstage, so I suppose DT could do it to. Whatever, the main concern is the music, and I don`t like it. It`s very simple.[/QUOTE]

My main concern is that you came in here bashing DT because all their albums sound the same, when that is obviously not the case. People who first get into DT usually have one (maybe two) favorite album and it takes them a little while to fully get into the other albums, simply because they all sound fairly different from each other.
Oh, and the other problem is you saying they have bad vocals, when LaBrie is one of the best singers in rock.

Jev 04-26-2006 10:24 AM

His voice is a bit of an aquired taste. There's plenty of people out there who say they like DT until the vocals kick in.

ghettoeddo 04-26-2006 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=bwnstl]My main concern is that you came in here bashing DT because all their albums sound the same, when that is obviously not the case. People who first get into DT usually have one (maybe two) favorite album and it takes them a little while to fully get into the other albums, simply because they all sound fairly different from each other.
Oh, and the other problem is you saying they have bad vocals, when LaBrie is one of the best singers in rock.[/QUOTE]

it is true that none of their albums are even remotely similar.
but for every one of us that love em, there are gonna be 10 more that hate em. that's the fun of music eh?

i think a lot of people shy away from em (although they wont admit this) because they're considered the benchmark prog metal band and are much more mainstream and known on the prog scene than most any other band.
there still seems to be this pervasive "avoid mainstream" kinda attitude around here

Jev 04-27-2006 01:05 AM

Which kind of sucks seeing as mainstream can still be good.
DT may be one of the most mainstream prog bands but they're nowhere near popular.

ghettoeddo 04-27-2006 01:25 AM

yea...
i mean...a band is mainstream because it appeals to a large # of people. yeayeayea the mass can't think for themselves or know anything about music. but that's why dream theater remains unknown to "the mass."

i think DT's comin into that scene w/ songs like i walk beside you. i really do hope they get more attention cuz i feel they really deserve it. i wouldn't mind them "selling out" a little bit as long as they didn't stray too far.

nowitzki 04-27-2006 02:50 AM

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]i wouldn't mind them "selling out" a little bit as long as they didn't stray too far.[/QUOTE]
As long as they don't do a complete Genesis-style U-turn.... although I can't see that happening.

Jev 04-27-2006 03:17 AM

DT would never sell out like Genesis.
I heard they're popular in Japan.

Prince of Darkness 04-27-2006 05:01 AM

Intrumedley on Budokan

:shock:

I really love DT atm. I'm going to buy SFAM and ToT soon. Just for keeps.

The Sandman 04-27-2006 05:27 AM

The Instrumedley's brilliant.

I love circus music.

\m/

Jev 04-27-2006 08:05 AM

I'm trying to learn it. Trés hard.

GenuineImitation 04-27-2006 03:32 PM

Whats everyones favorite DT riff/solo/song to play on the guitar? My favorite riff is either the Ytse Jam intro or Metropolis Part 1.

Jev 04-27-2006 03:36 PM

YTSE jame definitely. and the Afterlife riff.

temporary 04-27-2006 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=Flower Dance]DT would never sell out like Genesis.
I heard they're popular in Japan.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, DT's one of those bands that a lot bigger in Europe/Asia than in the States. And Genesis only sold out cause Gabriel left the band in Collins' control...

GenuineImitation 04-27-2006 03:41 PM

Ytse Jam is just so fun to play. Its fairly simple but sounds great.


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