[QUOTE=Lightning Strikes Twice]Your probably gonna' think I'm stupid for saying this..But my best friend in the whole world trusts her, and I trust her, and I trust him..For me thats good enough..[/QUOTE]

That was in the wrong order.

You trust your friend SO you trust her, not you trust her, and you just happen to trust your friend who agrees with you.

I don't know if it was intentional or if you did it by accident, but it's worth noting.

I really want to hear a summed up version of this story now.

I trust my friend, and he trusts her..I also trust her too though..If me and my best friend can trust her (and also all my other friends who know her) than I think it's not that much to be worried about..

[QUOTE=Understanding In a Crash]I really want to hear a summed up version of this story now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Viince...I talked to that girl with the boyfriend today..And told her I liked her, and she told me she liked me too, and that she's been thinking about dumping her boyfriend alot lately too.

Apparently at the school dance last night during the last slow dance of the night he was just kinda' standing there in disbelief because she was talking to her friends and ignoring him. I know it seriously sucks for him, because I've kinda' been down that road myself..But I guess he's actually a dick kinda' and stuff. But yeah, I'm happy man [/QUOTE]

That's all I know :p

Hey guys. So I started my night thinking I would be on my own. Then at 7:00 Meghan and Corey call me and tell me to meet them downtown. So I tell my parents I'm going to the coffee place. I then meet up with Meg and Corey and they want to go down by the movies, because Corey wants to watch a fight that was going to go down. So I get down by the movies, and I'm with Meghan because Corey went off to see the fight(he ended up turning around), and then my mom and sister drive by. They thought I was having coffee, so my mom goes insane, honking the horn. I go to the parking lot and my mom is flipping out at me. But I got out of it and figured she was going to kill me when I got home. So Meghan was getting picked up at 9:00 at the coffee place so me and her walk back and just talk, then I run into my sister who is at the bus stop, waiting for the bus, and she told me my mom was going to kill me. I got home 10 minutes ago, and all my mom said was that she's disapointed in me and her trust has dropped. Really I could care less, so if this is her punishment, it's not working.:p

Sorry..I've become to lazy to even sum it up for you..Basicly..There's a girl with a boyfriend that sits beside me in one of my classes that I like..and she's been having problems with him lately because he's a dick to her most of the time..She's also liked me lately too..

Really summed up lol..

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]That's all I know :p[/QUOTE]
I read that part :thumb:

If vince doesn't approve that has to say something though.

Vince only doesn't approve because of his personal experiences..Well..Actually because him and his girlfriend were taking a break and he was worried someone would steal her from him lol

[QUOTE=Lightning Strikes Twice]Sorry..I've become to lazy to even sum it up for you..Basicly..There's a girl with a boyfriend that sits beside me in one of my classes that I like..and she's been having problems with him lately because he's a dick to her most of the time..She's also liked me lately too..

Really summed up lol..[/QUOTE]
*summed up answer* Well I guess if he's a dick it's okay.

Seriously though... Girls have bad tendencies in changing there mind in very serious things. She may decide that shes in love with someone, and then subtly change because its a rainy day outside or something. She's doing a bad thing by dragging something on and if she really has a problem she should confront him about it, or drop him. Dick or no dick about him.

[QUOTE=Lightning Strikes Twice]Vince only doesn't approve because of his personal experiences..Well..Actually because him and his girlfriend were taking a break and he was worried someone would steal her from him lol[/QUOTE]
I never understood the point of taking a break, because in the time of that it always ends up with one person worrying over the other one about getting stolen and it usually happens.

[QUOTE=Understanding In a Crash]*summed up answer* Well I guess if he's a dick it's okay.

Seriously though... Girls have bad tendencies in changing there mind in very serious things. She may decide that shes in love with someone, and then subtly change because its a rainy day outside or something. She's doing a bad thing by dragging something on and if she really has a problem she should confront him about it, or drop him. Dick or no dick about him.[/QUOTE]
Well, I'm fairly sure she's dropping him sometime this weekend..Maybe even tonight.

[QUOTE=Lightning Strikes Twice]Sorry..I've become to lazy to even sum it up for you..Basicly..There's a girl with a boyfriend that sits beside me in one of my classes that I like..and she's been having problems with him lately because he's a dick to her most of the time..She's also liked me lately too..[/QUOTE]

Heyyy, that's happening to me right now. Sweet.

Only difference is that, according to a mutual friend (my best friend, haha), she has stints with everyone in our circle of friends when she shows a lot of affection. For a month she'd sit next to guy A and sleep on his shoulder and follow him in the hall and everything. Next month, she'd do the same with guy B. All the while she's had a boyfriend. Who, according to her, is really mean when they're in public together. (although really nice when they're just hanging out one of their houses together. That's why she's still with him. I think he's nice to her when they're alone so that he can **** her. but I don't know)

The ****'s infuriating, because everyone in my friend group has thought she liked him. Now it's my turn, so I'm trying to take it with a grain of salt.

Oh well.

[QUOTE=Lightning Strikes Twice]Well, I'm fairly sure she's dropping him sometime this weekend..Maybe even tonight.[/QUOTE]
The rebound comes with it's pros and cons. I've been on both sides of this court though and I seriously got to say that it sucks very bad being the guy whos a dick. Even if he is a dick, just picture it happening to you. I wouldn't dwell on it and I'm not trying to make you feel bad because you shouldn't. If this is what you want, and if this is what she wants then the equation has a solution. Just becareful...

Beat her down with a stick..:P Just kiddin'

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Heyyy, that's happening to me right now. Sweet.

Only difference is that, according to a mutual friend (my best friend, haha), she has stints with everyone in our circle of friends when she shows a lot of affection. For a month she'd sit next to guy A and sleep on his shoulder and follow him in the hall and everything. Next month, she'd do the same with guy B. All the while she's had a boyfriend. Who, according to her, is really mean when they're in public together. (although really nice when they're just hanging out one of their houses together. That's why she's still with him. I think he's nice to her when they're alone so that he can **** her. but I don't know)

The ****'s infuriating, because everyone in my friend group has thought she liked him. Now it's my turn, so I'm trying to take it with a grain of salt.

Oh well.[/QUOTE]
That is a lost cause Jon. No offense but if you can sense that, I don't even think I need to give my two cents about it.

[QUOTE=Lightning Strikes Twice]Beat her down with a stick..:P Just kiddin'[/QUOTE]

Well, I honestly do like her and enjoy her company. Plus, she's hot, and I wouldn't want to ruin her pretty face.

And her boyfriend does karate, so I wouldn't hit HIM with a stick.

I know, Dan. I'm not persuing or expecting (hopeing is another story, heh) anything. I'll accept whatever affection she gives, and if/when she doesn't, oh well.

The most dangerous things girls do is make you get attached when you don't think they will. It's hard but the type of girl IMO, that you just described Jon is basically the fertility seed of all most pop-punk modern bands :D

I guess I'll just throw this out here now but does anyone have Thursday - Mass as Shadows. It's seemed to have disappeared from my computer.

[QUOTE=Understanding In a Crash]The most dangerous things girls do is make you get attached when you don't think they will. It's hard but the type of girl IMO, that you just described Jon is basically the fertility seed of all most pop-punk modern bands :D[/QUOTE]

/writes sappy lyrics and sings three octaves above normal over a B C G progression.

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]/writes sappy lyrics[/QUOTE]
[i]Spare me just three last words.
"I love you" is all she heard.
I'll wait for you, but I can't wait forever.[/i]

Hahaha..Without girls modern pop-punk would not exist :p

[QUOTE=Pazz]I got home 10 minutes ago, and all my mom said was that she's disapointed in me and her trust has dropped. Really I could care less, so if this is her punishment, it's not working.:p[/QUOTE]You missed the code words there. Lost trust. Next time you ask to go out on your own she'll say no because she doesn't trust you anymore.
[QUOTE=Lightning Strikes Twice]Vince only doesn't approve because of his personal experiences..Well..Actually because him and his girlfriend were taking a break and he was worried someone would steal her from him lol[/QUOTE]No no, that's not the only reason. It's a closer to home reason but I do not approve of going after someone in a relationship ever. If someone doesn't like a relationship they should just end it. Period. If they are in it they should like it and not be looking for other opportunities, and people should respect that by not trying to give them to them.[QUOTE=Understanding In a Crash]I never understood the point of taking a break, because in the time of that it always ends up with one person worrying over the other one about getting stolen and it usually happens.[/QUOTE]In our case it's mostly because we're not together 75% of the year. So basically where we stand now is that when we can actually be together, and doing stuff, we're together. When we aren't we're on break. She's just taking the distance thing roughly and it's hurting both of us so in theory it's meant to take us down a level so we're not so attached and hurting when we're away. Of course it doesn't work out that way in reality but it's a nice thought. We'll figure stuff out eventually though, at the latest we have all summer to be together and figure out where we're going.

Hey.


Whats up?

[QUOTE=Permanent Solution] It's a closer to home reason but I do not approve of going after someone in a relationship ever. If someone doesn't like a relationship they should just end it. Period. [/QUOTE]

For someone who tends to stand up for people who do seemingly illogical things, that's a stupid thing to say. You usually think things through more than that.
[QUOTE]
Question:
This is the smartest thing you've ever written, but I think it's the hardest thing ever to actually do. This is why you will have a wonderful and happy relationship someday when you want to and most people will keep putting themselves in the same relationship over and over with different people. I've never learned how to let go of someone that I love, even if the relationship was not making me happy. It's too painful. Do you think this is a girl thing or just an insecurity thing or both?


My answer:
People cannot let love go, even when it's bad, for many reasons. I don't even know if I can list them because I don't know them all. But here are the three main ones:

-Security: This is especially true with women. A relationship and love, even if it sucks, is often seen as better than nothing at all. This is an extraordinarily strong reason, and many people will continue in a relationship long after it's over, simply because of inertia and security.

-Pain aversion: Most people will avoid pain now, even at the cost of increased pain later. It takes intelligence, discipline and maturity to take a hit now to avoid a harder one later.

-Fear of the unknown: People fear the unknown and fear being alone. The devil you know is better than the devil you don't know, and people are often unsure if they can do better or if they will ever have that sort of thing again, so they cling to it.
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[QUOTE=Permanent Solution]You missed the code words there. Lost trust. Next time you ask to go out on your own she'll say no because she doesn't trust you anymore.[/QUOTE]

She doesn't trust me as it is. She also said if it happens again, I'm grounded.

Since when did Matt have a hot girlfriend?

Damn, I must have missed something. I that he was as much of a loser as the rest of us.

Oh..Vince I understand you man..If I was someone else I'd probably be beating the **** outa' me for doing this..But I can't help it..:(

[QUOTE=Black Ink]Hey.

Whats up?[/QUOTE]
Hey Mark, how goes?
[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]For someone who tends to stand up for people who do seemingly illogical things, that's a stupid thing to say. You usually think things through more than that.[/QUOTE]
You wound my pride. I'm not saying that people in a relationship are entirely happy and euphoric, far from. But I do believe if someone does not enjoy the relationship they should have the will power to get out on their own, or with some friends' help. They shouldn't need the incentive of someone better to leave. I know I would struggle with a situation like that, but in the past I've always had good enough communication with my gfs to be able to say, hey something's up. One of those times we ended up breaking up because of it. *shrug* If you don't have the willpower to leave a bad relationship I wouldn't trust you to have the willpower to stay in a good one.
[QUOTE=Pazz]She doesn't trust me as it is. She also said if it happens again, I'm grounded.[/QUOTE]
I need to teach your mom some better parenting skills.

Jon: Like a week or two.[QUOTE=Lightning Strikes Twice]Oh..Vince I understand you man..If I was someone else I'd probably be beating the **** outa' me for doing this..But I can't help it..:([/QUOTE]
No, I understand why you're doing it. I just don't respect it and will never approve of it. I can't do anything about it, but I just feel I should tell you that since some people care about what I have to say here :p

[QUOTE=BridgeToSolace]Since when did Matt have a hot girlfriend?

Damn, I must have missed something. I that he was as much of a loser as the rest of us.[/QUOTE]

Since I asked her out.

Vince: My mom did a pretty good job with me and my sister. She can be a mad b[SIZE="2"]i[/SIZE]tch at times and I seriously thought she was going to kill me.

[QUOTE=Pazz]Since I asked her out.

Vince: My mom did a pretty good job with me and my sister. She can be a mad b[SIZE="2"]i[/SIZE]tch at times and I seriously thought she was going to kill me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but when her son can come on the internet and laugh at the punishment he got for breaking her rules, she needs to be following through just a tad more :p