Don't worry, there is no debate. Anybody with an iota of intelligence realizes that I speak truth and fact.

[QUOTE]Be happy I gave Lars credit for decency on MOP, because he generally sucks beyond belief.[/QUOTE]

I think if you're going to give him credit do it on AJFA minus DE. I believe he can do it too, but why he couldnt then and there i dont get. If you listen to the songs St.Anger or All Within My Hands he uses the double bass just as fast as on Dyers Eve.

I should hope so. If I was the drummer in the "biggest metal band in the world" and I couldn't even play my own tracks due to lack of skill, I think I'd spend the rest of my life practicing.

Unfortunately, any double bass prowess that Lars could display on St. Anger was effectively ruined by his choice of an industrial size trash can in lieu of a snare drum.

Yeah im gonna have to go with you on that one. It doesnt bother me anymore, but it really got under my skin early on. Ok now for what im about to say i have to say this first, i know i'll probably get flamed big time for this, but im not a "n00b" or anything like that so keep you panties on. IMO minus the snare drum, St.Anger has some of Metallica's better drumming

[QUOTE=Kirk's Puppet]Metallica rocks! But I don't really see A LOT of Metallica threads.[/QUOTE]


totally right we should see more

From what I remember (I think I've only heard the album 2 or 3 times in its entirety) you're about right. I mean, Lars has never been excessively fast, and only mildly creative. A 4/4 kick kick/snare kick kick/snare combo is cool when used properly, but I can only hear it on so many tracks before I get annoyed. I've never seen them live, so I can't comment on his improvisation (if any) but I know that his fills and rolls never really caught my ear.

[QUOTE=metalliman1066]totally right we should see more[/QUOTE]

No. That is the point of this one. So we don't have the forums polluted with threads like "'Tallica RuLeZ! I love Jaymez LOL!!1!1! Whats ur favorit song?!?????"

Post all that crap here.

[QUOTE=metalliman1066]totally right we should see more[/QUOTE]

no because thats the whole point of this thread to keep all metallica talk in one place.

I'm faster :p

I also think that Lar's problem is that he's kind of lazy. He doesnt really try hard to show any skill what-so-ever. I believe he's got lots of talent and skill (he does a have an odd half-choke/off-beat technique), but doesnt ever try to show any off it.

Live hes pretty cool. he adds nice little parts into song. Most notably is For Whom the Bell Tolls...I think he first did it on the S&M version. Oh and Im talkin about the double bass in the begining of the song

[QUOTE]totally right we should see more[/QUOTE]

Are you fuc[color=white]king[/color] retarded?

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]I should hope so. If I was the drummer in the "biggest metal band in the world" and I couldn't even play my own tracks due to lack of skill, I think I'd spend the rest of my life practicing.

Unfortunately, any double bass prowess that Lars could display on St. Anger was effectively ruined by his choice of an industrial size trash can in lieu of a snare drum.[/QUOTE]

why did he use that sound for the album if he doesnt even have that sound live? Thats whats bothering me

if you notice on the remix of Some Kinda Monster it doesnt sound like that either. I think Bob Rock thought to himself "Maybe i shouldnt of set the snare up that way"

its funny, theres a picture in a magazine with Bob Rock and Lars in the studio with the caption at the bottom "see this button? I push it and it ****s up the sound of the drums"

The first time I heard St. Anger (it was the video), I think Lars got about two taps of that snare before I said (out loud): What the fvck is with that snare? It followed with more WTF questions, like WTF is James singing about, WTF are they doing in a prison, WTF am I watching this for?

Most likely you guys are right, they realized how retarded it sounded and changed it. Either way Lars is an idiot. If he set up that snare himself, he's an idiot. If Rock set it up, Lars is an idiot for not changing it. I don't think James would have stood by and let Rock tune his guitar up 3 steps.

i would have to agree that the drums sounded very bad in that song and all of St.Anger.

Yea the snare sounds dodge. Lol I read an interview with Lars in a drum mag where he said that he didn't realise he had the snares lowered and when he did he thought it sounded cool so he just left it like that.

Im going to go to the Some Kind Of Monster movie on Friday. Has anyone seen it?

[QUOTE=Zmev]Yes lets make up facts from opinions... :rolleyes:

"omg dis song rawks dis hard!!11"
"no u r st00pid"[/QUOTE]
comeone man, dont embarrass yourself. I never said they're facts. Don't you understand i was just comparing them. Either way if someone thought i was rating too high or too low, well it wouldn't matter, cause the songs would both still be rated the same. I think i was pretty accurate, and showed that MOP didn't lost any ground after RIDE

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]

Lars had to double track Dyers Eve because he couldn't play the double bass fast enough.
[/QUOTE]
no ****IN way. Are you serious. If thats true then lars sucks wienrr skillwise. Dude, im pissed off now.

It's true - they had to piece it together from tiny sections he could actualy manage.

its funny how all the metallica fans are sayin how lars is crap and MOP and beyond sucked, they wernt moving away from heavy metal at that time, they were moving into heavy metal from thrash metal, so what if MOP+ were diffrent albums, they still f*cking rule!

hey again, i might get the 3rd and last of my live Tallica dvd collection (binge & purge)
but i just wanna know if its worth £35.
i know it has 3dvds and 2 cds but are they good?
Are there any gigs in which james and lars have long hair?

[QUOTE=Metal G]its funny how all the metallica fans are sayin how lars is crap and MOP and beyond sucked, they wernt moving away from heavy metal at that time, they were moving into heavy metal from thrash metal, so what if MOP+ were diffrent albums, they still f*cking rule![/QUOTE]

Why is that funny? (Unless you're talking about how Lars sucks. Yes, that is funny).

[QUOTE=Metal G]hey again, i might get the 3rd and last of my live Tallica dvd collection (binge & purge)
but i just wanna know if its worth £35.
i know it has 3dvds and 2 cds but are they good?
Are there any gigs in which james and lars have long hair?[/QUOTE]
I got it on my birthday and I think its a pretty goods dvd
BTW: it has 2dvds and 3 cds

Metallica in 16 days :chug: Wahoo!

[QUOTE=Squirrel_h4x]It's true - they had to piece it together from tiny sections he could actualy manage.[/QUOTE]
so he couldn't even do it all the way through overdubbed?

is live **** worth paying for?

it is indeed

Live Sh*t is pretty cool, has anyone heard Rob's bass thing called Junglessence? Killer bass.