ya i like your description better then mine, i no that the one i got was an opinion on tdn but after hearing yours it makes alot more sense.

If I'm remembering my Roman Mythology correctly, Saturn wasn't the father of Juptiter. I think it was a dude by the name of Cronos. I'ts been a while since I've had my mythology course, so I'm gonna double check here.

[size=7][color=orange][b]I come to you bearing great news![/size][/color][/b]

I spoke the The JoZ, and I basically confronted him with an ultimatum. Either he got some tracks up, or we find someone else. He said that he could have Stinkfist and Lateralus up tomorrow night. I will YSI the conversation if you guys want, but nothing spectacular happens. :p

Anyone else seen the manyard fights fan video on the internet, I cant tell if it's fake or what.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]If I'm remembering my Roman Mythology correctly, Saturn wasn't the father of Juptiter. I think it was a dude by the name of Cronos. I'ts been a while since I've had my mythology course, so I'm gonna double check here.

[size=7][color=orange][b]I come to you bearing great news![/size][/color][/b]

I spoke the The JoZ, and I basically confronted him with an ultimatum. Either he got some tracks up, or we find someone else. He said that he could have Stinkfist and Lateralus up tomorrow night. I will YSI the conversation if you guys want, but nothing spectacular happens. :p[/QUOTE]
Nice.

[QUOTE=Thai Noodles2]Anyone else seen the manyard fights fan video on the internet, I cant tell if it's fake or what.[/QUOTE]

ya i think the dude was wasted and maynard wasnt taking any chances.

Is it possible to remove and instrument completly out of a song so that you can record to it, like the drums?

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]My myspace page if anyone cares.

[url]http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=9321795&Mytoken=20050623113140[/url][/QUOTE]
I just added you :thumb:

There is a very mediocre effect that you can use with Goldwave. It will never completely remove an insturment, but it can work pretty good if you want to remove vox and drums.

[url]http://www.goldwave.com[/url]

it's a 5 mb download, so it shouldn't take you too long, even if you're on dialup like myself.

I used to use Goldwave, never noticed this "effect". What was it called?

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]There is a very mediocre effect that you can use with Goldwave. It will never completely remove an insturment, but it can work pretty good if you want to remove vox and drums.

[url]http://www.goldwave.com[/url]

it's a 5 mb download, so it shouldn't take you too long, even if you're on dialup like myself.[/QUOTE]

you have made me a very happy person thanks you

Remove Vocals. It only works on some songs. The songs have to be at least 2 channels, or else you will have no chance at removing anything. When it works, it works pretty well though. Other than that, that program is shi[B][I][/I][/B]t.

ya i like it because u can slow down the song so you can tell what dannys plsying

hehe...

I'm cheating....

Listening to Undertow... whole way through.

hehe...

Its like filling a gap I've had in my heart the past 2 months.

I'm telling your friend!! :lol:

Doomed To Crumbled- If you want to slow it down, you'd be better off with [url=http://www.audacity.com]Audacity[/url] That way, you can listen to the song at a slowe speed without augmenting the pitch.

Acutually, he cheated to by listening to dis/ref/triad. Its my way at getting back at him.


Dude are you on like... all the time?

-Stinkfist about the world becoming desensitsed to stuff, like violence, people nowadays just accept it.
-Eulogy is about their old producer or manager guy.
-46+2 is about the theory that Carl jung created, im not explaining it....
-Schism.....is about a schism, anykind of seperation is a schism...

They are not satanist.....that rediculus. Just read the FAQ on their website....it saves u a lot of thinking time and you can think about more important things in the song since you know what its about.

Whats ions about?

[QUOTE=HighOnFire666]-Stinkfist about the world becoming desensitsed to stuff, like violence, people nowadays just accept it.
-Eulogy is about their old producer or manager guy.
-46+2 is about the theory that Carl jung created, im not explaining it....
-Schism.....is about a schism, anykind of seperation is a schism...

They are not satanist.....that rediculus. Just read the FAQ on their website....it saves u a lot of thinking time and you can think about more important things in the song since you know what its about.[/QUOTE]



Well, at least it's good to know that people still read the first page of a long thread.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]Well, at least it's good to know that people still read the first page of a long thread.[/QUOTE]
I see, it ahd baffled why hed suddenly psot the meanings of those songs

[QUOTE=herbtones]Whats ions about?[/QUOTE]
There's a funny story behind –Ions. According to Danny, positive ions are responsible for bad feelings. Negative energies, so to speak. Negative ions (–Ions) are exactly the opposite. They are responsible for good feelings, positive energies. Danny then said that –Ions was "the feel good song" of the album Aenima. Pretty hilarious when taking note of the fact that –Ions is four minutes of static and electronic noises.

Ithink that the thunder-esque noises in Negative Ions is a peice of sheet getting twisted about. Just a random theory of mine. :p

lolol funny indeed. What if all their songs were about some stupid **** like that? thatd be funny as hell but we toolphiles would end looking like fools trying to figure out the emaning of every single word on the cds.lol

For all we know, their sogns could be meaningless, but Tool always say that they want their fans to concienve their own meanings for their songs, and that is what I do every time I listen to Tool.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]There's a funny story behind –Ions. According to Danny, positive ions are responsible for bad feelings. Negative energies, so to speak. Negative ions (–Ions) are exactly the opposite. They are responsible for good feelings, positive energies. Danny then said that –Ions was "the feel good song" of the album Aenima. Pretty hilarious when taking note of the fact that –Ions is four minutes of static and electronic noises.[/QUOTE]
ITs also rumored to be connected to Astral Projecting/meditating. Because when you're about to "switch" bodys (ie. physical body to astral) supposedly you hear static.

I've been reading alot of Astral projecting books and Nothing In This Book Is True, But Its Exactly The Way Things Are :p

I need to see if my library has that book. Who is it by again? Is it an Ailister Crowely book?

Oh, and about the astral projection thing- I beleive that Lateralus is about astral projection. I'm going to do a lyrical analysis right now, as a matter of fact. :)

Merkaba is also a song about astral projection as far as I'm concerned. For those of you who don't know, a merkaba is a sort of vehicle used for interdimensional travel.

Funny you registered after I did yet you have a ton more of posts. i didnt post caue I thought the account didnt work or something, I realized i was wrong a week or two ago but Ive been reading on and off this thread for a while now.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I need to see if my library has that book. Who is it by again? Is it an Ailister Crowely book?

Oh, and about the astral projection thing- I beleive that Lateralus is about astral projection. I'm going to do a lyrical analysis right now, as a matter of fact. :)

Merkaba is also a song about astral projection as far as I'm concerned. For those of you who don't know, a merkaba is a sort of vehicle used for interdimensional travel.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the book talks alot about Merkabas also, VERY interesting.

And the book is by Bob Frissell. I'm interested in hearing your lyrical analysis if you feel like typing it out sometime :)

Crowley isn't the one you're thinking of. I've read some Aleister Crowley, and it's a bit hard to take seriously. However, books on Black Magic can be really interesting.

[QUOTE]-Stinkfist about the world becoming desensitsed to stuff, like violence, people nowadays just accept it.
-Eulogy is about their old producer or manager guy.
-46+2 is about the theory that Carl jung created, im not explaining it....
-Schism.....is about a schism, anykind of seperation is a schism...

They are not satanist.....that rediculus. Just read the FAQ on their website....it saves u a lot of thinking time and you can think about more important things in the song since you know what its about.[/QUOTE]

46 & 2 has a theory behind it, sure. About the the ideal chromosome state of the two with 46 each... the song's basically about evolution.

[B]What [I]Lateralus[/I] means to me:[/B]

[QUOTE]Black then white are all
I see in my infancy
Red and yellow then came to be
Reaching out to me
Lets me see
As below, so above and beyond
I imagine[/QUOTE]

Maynard is saying that at first, in his projections, they were vague. Perhaps a faint dream type landscape or something, but as time went on, they became more detailed and in depth. the last 2 lines, he is saying that if I can let my mind grow here, I can make it go anywhere
[QUOTE]
Drawn beyond the lines of reason
Push the envelope
Watch it bend
Over thinking, over analysing
Separates the body from the mind
Withering my intuition
Missing opportunities
And I must feed my will
To feel my moment
Drawing way outside the lines[/QUOTE]
This sensation is showing him things that he didn't think were possible He's pushing the envelope of reality, seeing something far more than most people ever do. (missed oppurtunities) You must overthink, or concentrate extremely hard if you want to leave your body.


[QUOTE]Reaching out to embrace
The random
Reaching out to embrace
Whatever may come[/QUOTE]
His projections are becoming very deep, and now he is just going with the flow, leaving his body it total control

[QUOTE]I embrace my desire
To feel the rhythm
To feel connected
Enough to step aside
And weep like a widow
To feel inspired
To fathom the power
To witness the beauty
To bathe in the fountain
To swing on the spiral
To swing on a spiral
To
Swing on a spiral of our divinity
And still be a human[/QUOTE]
Obviously, his new form of reality is inspiring. This is perhaps the least subtle lyrical section of the song.

[QUOTE]With my feet upon the ground
I move myself between the sounds
And open wide to suck it in
I feel it move across my skin
I'm reaching up and reaching out
I'm reaching for the random or
What ever will bewilder me
Whatever will be willed on me
And following our will and wind
We may just go where no one's been
We'll ride the spiral to the end
And may just go where no one's been
Spiral out, keep going
Spiral out, keep going
Spiral out, keep going[/QUOTE]
This segment is where Maynard is speaking to the listeners. See what I have done, embracing what has come to me, I have gone to places I thought infathomable. I want to inspire you, I want you to join me in my travel and we may go to the ends of the universe.


This is just my interpretation. I have been thinking a lot about these recently. It is very hard to write out some of what I am really thinking, but this is the best I could put down, so I hope you enjoy it. :thumb:

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]46 & 2 has a theory behind it, sure. About the the ideal chromosome state of the two with 46 each... the song's basically about evolution.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Bob Frissell (the guy that wrote NITBIT) believes that we're gonna go into that state sometimes soon maybe.
But I'm not too sure on that. Because other people say the only way to get there, is by meditating and opening your third eye (omgz another Tool reference) more and more, to where you get enough of some chemical in your body to do so.

I really don't know who to believe because I'm a complete n00b at that stuff.

I think Lateralus is not very hard to paraphrase because its meaning is so clear.... The last three lines explain the whole meaning of the song. Parabola and H. are songs that I still haven't figured out.

Once you delve into the whole sub culture or meditation and projection and what not, it's an entirely different world. In the last 3 months alone, my perception of things has changed so much.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo][B]What [I]Lateralus[/I] means to me:[/B]



Maynard is saying that at first, in his projections, they were vague. Perhaps a faint dream type landscape or something, but as time went on, they became more detailed and in depth. the last 2 lines, he is saying that if I can let my mind grow here, I can make it go anywhere

This sensation is showing him things that he didn't think were possible He's pushing the envelope of reality, seeing something far more than most people ever do. (missed oppurtunities) You must overthink, or concentrate extremely hard if you want to leave your body.



His projections are becoming very deep, and now he is just going with the flow, leaving his body it total control


Obviously, his new form of reality is inspiring. This is perhaps the least subtle lyrical section of the song.


This segment is where Maynard is speaking to the listeners. See what I have done, embracing what has come to me, I have gone to places I thought infathomable. I want to inspire you, I want you to join me in my travel and we may go to the ends of the universe.


This is just my interpretation. I have been thinking a lot about these recently. It is very hard to write out some of what I am really thinking, but this is the best I could put down, so I hope you enjoy it. :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Thats pretty interesting...
I don't do that much interpretations most of time.
I plan to start though.

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Once you delve into the whole sub culture or meditation and projection and what not, it's an entirely different world. In the last 3 months alone, my perception of things has changed so much.[/QUOTE]
Have you projected yet? I'm still not quite there, I'm still training myself to focus better, because I have ADD, so its sort of difficult :p

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]46 & 2 has a theory behind it, sure. About the the ideal chromosome state of the two with 46 each... the song's basically about evolution.[/QUOTE]

well, its also deals with the mind and jungs theory of the shadow, our dark side of the phsyche that everyone keeps secret from even themselves.

[QUOTE=magicaltrollII]


Have you projected yet? I'm still not quite there, I'm still training myself to focus better, because I have ADD, so its sort of difficult :p[/QUOTE]


I gave it one effort, and gave up. I tried learning off of those cheesey internet tutorials. The guys that actual know what they're talking are too busy having fun in other dimensions to write a thorough guide. :p

I think I may try again some time. It takes tons of dedication, and from what I hear, it is worth it. Plus, I just wanna have astral secks. :naughty:

Are therre directions in Frissel's book, or are you using a differerent type of thing?

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I gave it one effort, and gave up. I tried learning off of those cheesey internet tutorials. The guys that actual know what they're talking are too busy having fun in other dimensions to write a thorough guide. :p

I think I may try again some time. It takes tons of dedication, and from what I hear, it is worth it. Plus, I just wanna have astral secks. :naughty:

Are therre directions in Frissel's book, or are you using a differerent type of thing?[/QUOTE]
Well, I got a book called Astral Projection-How To Do It, And What To Expect. Its basically "Astral Projecting For Dummies". Its really good. I forget who its by though... And my friend is borrowing my book. I'm converting him to a Tool freak :thumb: He's also into that stuff aswell now, so thats cool.

And yeah, I really just wanna skip all this stuff and go to the projecting part :p

I'd do meditation if it guaranteed a prolonged orgasm.

I would love to start, but I find that I just never have the will, or maybe just the patience, to really sit down and learn a thing or two about doing it.

I haven't really looked into the lyrics to The Patient, but I'm sure there are some ties to astral projection into that song as well. The theme of being patient and such very well could mean something...:p