Can anyone tell me what Nectar's about?

ahh, i think an evil sound one is number 5 on BWP, im not too sure what its called but ill check.


EDIT: Dirge For November

Well, Nectar sounds like He has lost someone and she comes to him in the form of a ghost. But he cant accept shes gone.

"I lament this heritage
Cannot bid farewell
The pale face...you went as far as you could
And from that moment
I witnessed your beauty, fealt your death"

Pale, y'know...ghostly?

Anyways, some people i've talked to say its about a nightmare mikael has about a girl that comes to him as a ghost.
Thats my two cents

[QUOTE=aphotic__713]ahh, i think an evil sound one is number 5 on BWP, im not too sure what its called but ill check.[/QUOTE]

Dirge For November, one of the best on the cd.

Evil sounding?

Blackwater Park.

Serenity Painted Death.

Godhead's Lament.

Deliverance.

By the Pain I See in Others (esp. the beginning)

The Grand Conjuration.

(in order I though of them)

[QUOTE=aphotic__713]ahh, i think an evil sound one is number 5 on BWP, im not too sure what its called but ill check.


EDIT: Dirge For November

Well, Nectar sounds like He has lost someone and she comes to him in the form of a ghost. But he cant accept shes gone.

"I lament this heritage
Cannot bid farewell
The pale face...you went as far as you could
And from that moment
I witnessed your beauty, fealt your death"

Pale, y'know...ghostly?

Anyways, some people i've talked to say its about a nightmare mikael has about a girl that comes to him as a ghost.
Thats my two cents[/QUOTE]

Nice Interpretation, I suck at figuring out what lyrics mean.

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]Nice Interpretation, I suck at figuring out what lyrics mean.[/QUOTE]

Same here. Most of the time, the only reason i know what a song means or the story behind a concept album is, is becuase I read it somewhere.

Heavy with clean vocals- A Fair Judgement

That and Deliverance are the two best songs on the album IMO...

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]It doesn't really sound medieval to me. Exotic, dark...yes...but medieval? They're using chords and phrases that probably would have been considered sinful and punishable by death in the Middle Ages. :lol:
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Haha, yeah...there actually was a mode with diminished 5th which the Church thought sounded too evil because of it's dissonance, and banned people from using it...I think it was the Locrian. I can't remember whether Opeth uses it though.

[QUOTE=Werny]I didn't say it should. But I [b]am[/b] annoyed that Mikael said there was going to be one album focusing on Opeth's heavy side, and another focusing on their lighter side. Instead they make one focusing on their heavy sound and lighter sound and another focused on another sound completely. So they made one album of Opeth's sound (focusing neither on heavy or light) and another album focusing on Porcupine Tree's sound.[/QUOTE]


I have no clue what you're talking about.
Deliverance = heavy
Damnation = light

...and Damnation sounds nothing like anything done by Porcupine Tree.

why is everyone criticizing damnation/ghost reveries just because of the fact that theyre not like the old opeth?

[QUOTE=opeth.com]As you all know, it is sometimes very hard to put your finger on what makes a band original and unique. I am not trying to boast here, but in my point of view there is no other band just like Opeth. Personally I appreciate when bands shock you, when they take unexpected turns in their music that you couldn´t see coming. [B]That is somewhat the essence of Opeth,[/B] and I think it is something that is present on all our albums. See, when we started up as Eruption we were more or less a ordinary (pretty bad) death metal band, but somewhere along the road we found something that made Opeth what Opeth is today. It might be our interest in symphonic and progressive music which to me is the ultimate form of music. We have come to the point where [B]we don´t care at all what kind of music we are playing, there are no boundaries at all! [/B]

The strange thing is that it´s not intentional. [B]I don´t doubt one second that we´d be a bigger band if we did what was good for Opeth[/B]..but we just don´t! [B]The day we would limit ourselves [/b]or adapt to the music scene, [b]would be the day Opeth dies. [/B]

Certainly, there are some parts on our albums that was kind of daring. With "Morningrise" we incuded a balladlike track in "To bid you farewell" right in the midst of the rising Black metal trend.

Don´t you think we´d be better off if we had blastbeats and satanic lyrics instead? Now, afterwards, "To bid you farewell" has done many good things for us, as we have now been accepted to be a bit odd. That´s just the way we like it!

Opeth started up in 1990 I wrote all the material myself with suggestions from the former vocalist, David. When Peter joined in late 1991 I found someone that I could write together with. I had written a track called "Poise into Celeano" and it turned out way different from the things we had done before, and when Peter came in the picture, me and him started to re-arrange all the stuff we had. It was our most creative period, and we rehearsed 6 days a week at times. Eventually we had achieved a sound of our own. Twin guitar harmonies, loads of acoustic parts, no blastbeats, long, long tracks, even some normal singing. Eventually Candlelight wanted to do an album with us. That was "Orchid". [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Whale and Wasp]why is everyone criticizing damnation/ghost reveries just because of the fact that theyre not like the old opeth?[/QUOTE]


I have [I]never[/I] criticised Damnation. And I have [I]never[/I] criticised Ghost Reveries because it's not like ''old [B]O[/B]peth''. It just bored me, there wasn't enough...there was something missing, I can't explain. It didn't excite me. I like Deliverance, and that's nothing like Old [B]O[/B]peth. In fact, I might put that in now...

I agree with Flynn, to an extenet. I find Damnation totally mind-blowing and Ghost Reveries to be just "good". I definitely enjoyed their newest release, and hope they progress further with their new sound. If they stick with it, the next release should prove to be amazing.

[QUOTE=Flynn]I have [I]never[/I] criticised Damnation. And I have [I]never[/I] criticised Ghost Reveries because it's not like ''old [B]O[/B]peth''. It just bored me, there wasn't enough...there was something missing, I can't explain. It didn't excite me. I like Deliverance, and that's nothing like Old [B]O[/B]peth. In fact, I might put that in now...[/QUOTE]
oh, i just remember reading the thread this morning and seeing posts like that; i didnt mean it at you, sorry for not clarifying it

[QUOTE=Whale and Wasp]oh, i just remember reading the thread this morning and seeing posts like that; i didnt mean it at you, sorry for not clarifying it[/QUOTE]

Oh, cool. Yeah I know what you're saying though. It's all good. :chug:










[I]
''and I woke in chains and shackles tear my flesh
and blood that flows from these wounds flows black as night
your lies consume me with every breath I burn
and now the past that must be kept haunts me at night''[/I]

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]I agree with Flynn, to an extenet. I find Damnation totally mind-blowing and Ghost Reveries to be just "good". I definitely enjoyed their newest release, and hope they progress further with their new sound. If they stick with it, the next release should prove to be amazing.[/QUOTE]

And I think the opposite....maybe I haven't heard enough of Damnation :p

The album has it's weaker moments, but the best parts of it, like Ghost of Perdition and the Grand Conjuration, are truly spectacular.

I haven't really, truly listened to anything off of Ghost Reveries except The Grand Conjuration, but I found that to be one of the better Opeth tracks in a while. It doesn't drag on, like some of their other songs, and it switches up a lot.

I love Damnation though, even more so after I watched Lamentations. It needs a ton of grow time, I think, but once that happens, it's amazing.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]I haven't really, truly listened to anything off of Ghost Reveries except The Grand Conjuration, but I found that to be one of the better Opeth tracks in a while. It doesn't drag on, like some of their other songs, and it switches up a lot.

I love Damnation though, even more so after I watched Lamentations. It needs a ton of grow time, I think, but once that happens, it's amazing.[/QUOTE]
Dude, TGC is repetitious as hell and it DOES drag on...but still a good track, so if you like it, Ghost of Perdition should blow your mind.

Eh, I don't think it drags on much...maybe in a few places, but I'm often half asleep when I listen to it. :lol:

I listened to GOP a few times...don't remember much, but it had its moments.

[QUOTE=Jude]Dude, TGC is repetitious as hell and it DOES drag on...but still a good track, so if you like it, Ghost of Perdition should blow your mind.[/QUOTE]


Ghost Of Perdition is the only song on that album I really like, and yeah, The Grand Conjuration drags on a bit.

It's one of Opeth's best songs, it ranks with The Moor and such (in fact on the official Opeth forum poll for best Opeth song, The Moor was number 1 and beat GoP by ONE vote. It's an example of how the keyboards SHOULD be integrated into Opeth's sound--flawless.

Odd, I'm listening to Ghost Of Perdition, and THIS track is dragging on a bit.

Maybe it's cause I'm not used to it...

[QUOTE=Hells Bells]And I think the opposite....maybe I haven't heard enough of Damnation :p

The album has it's weaker moments, but the best parts of it, like Ghost of Perdition and the Grand Conjuration, are truly spectacular.[/QUOTE]

Personally, Damnation is my favorite Opeth. It's so relaxing and calm, it's [b]almost[/b] better than beer. Almost.

[QUOTE=Jude]It's one of Opeth's best songs, it ranks with The Moor and such (in fact on the official Opeth forum poll for best Opeth song, The Moor was number 1 and beat GoP by ONE vote. It's an example of how the keyboards SHOULD be integrated into Opeth's sound--flawless.[/QUOTE]

Mostly because noobs infiltrated that place with their filthy paws, you do realize most people who have ever heard Opeth can only name that song?

Not saying it isn't amazing.

My personal favorite off of that album = Baying of the Hounds

NP: Autumn Leaves - Blood

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Mostly because noobs infiltrated that place with their filthy paws, you do realize most people who have ever heard Opeth can only name that song?

Not saying it isn't amazing.

My personal favorite off of that album = Baying of the Hounds

NP: Autumn Leaves - Blood[/QUOTE]


I like the end of Baying Of The Hounds, at around 9:40 or so. That part gives me chills...

[I]''Oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh!!''[/I]

Baying Of The Hounds and GOP are my favorite songs on that cd.. the only songs I really go back to (which is still pretty rare..).


Well it's looking good for me to see these guys again on the 8th of March... I can't wait. :D

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]NP: Autumn Leaves - Blood[/QUOTE]
Autumn Leaves are ****ing great.

I still think Harlequin Forest is fantastic. Damn fantastic.

[QUOTE=Deth]I still think Harlequin Forest is fantastic. Damn fantastic.[/QUOTE]

This is true too, that album has four really good songs: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, Harlequin Forest, and The Grand Conjuration.... it just pisses me off when kids talk about how much they love Opeth and have only heard the new album.

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]This is true too, that album has four really good songs: Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds, Harlequin Forest, and The Grand Conjuration....[B] it just pisses me off when kids talk about how much they love Opeth and have only heard the new album.[/B][/QUOTE]
Yes. Me to.

Me three. It's happened a lot with the people around me.

I then whip out MAYH and force them to admit their n00bness.

Today at the food court in the mall, I was wearing an Opeth shirt, and my friends friend said that Opeth sucked. I just kind of knodded and ignored him. Then he said "Now Lamb of God is talent". I said something like "You like music with talent, yet you don't like Opeth?" "Opeth sucks man, The Grand Conjuration is a crappy song" Then I found out that was the only song he'd heard... this frusterates me greatly.

And probably the butchered single version at that.

Damn food courts.

Yes. I was there only for KFC... Then we got the hell out of there. Oh and this guy was wearing a Metallica hoodie.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Today at the food court in the mall, I was wearing an Opeth shirt, and my friends friend said that Opeth sucked. I just kind of knodded and ignored him. Then he said "Now Lamb of God is talent". I said something like "You like music with talent, yet you don't like Opeth?" "Opeth sucks man, The Grand Conjuration is a crappy song" Then I found out that was the only song he'd heard... this frusterates me greatly.[/QUOTE]


Don't sweat it man, if he thinks Lamb Of God is talent, and [B]O[/B]peth isn't, he doesn't know jack shlt about metal.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Don't sweat it man, if he thinks Lamb Of God is talent, and [B]O[/B]peth isn't, he doesn't know jack shlt about metal.[/QUOTE]
But what really angers me is he isn't even willing to learn. Yet he claims to be someone who thinks he's knowledgable. Real smart people are always willing to learn more.

Yeah, Opeth would blow his mind.

[QUOTE=Forlorn Hope]Can someone recommend Opeth songs that are dark and evil sounding,[/QUOTE]

That's their specialty. ;)

Closure, Deliverance, Master's Apprentice, Grand Conjuration, Demon of the Fall, Blackwater Park, Baying of the Hounds...it's all good.

I think Bleak is really evil sounding.

[QUOTE=BlindWriting]I see your point, and even though I disagree, I've gotta hand it to you for going against the grain with your opinon.

Still, Wreath and Deliverance are easily two of their heaviest songs ever.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for handing it to me. Yeah.

Wreath and Deliverance are definitely their heaviest, same with Masters Apprentices and By The Pain I See In Others (the riff that kicks off that song... drool), but the other two songs are really light. And most of the heavier tracks have a very prominent light section.

Yeah yeah ok, I was close-minded in saying Damnation sounds like Porcupine Tree, seeing as I've only heard Trains. *slaps self for close-mindedness*

But to me, Damnation sounds really alike to most rock bands that come out of England. Especially the beginning of Closure (the melody playing at the end over the orgy of instruments is lovely, if not too brief).

And the guitar riff at the start of To Rid The Disease... is that taken from another song? I'm not being sarcastic or insulting, it honestly sounds like exactly like a riff I've heard somewhere else.

[QUOTE=Werny]Thanks for handing it to me. Yeah.

Wreath and Deliverance are definitely their heaviest, same with Masters Apprentices and By The Pain I See In Others (the riff that kicks off that song... drool), but the other two songs are really light. And most of the heavier tracks have a very prominent light section.[/quote] It's still a disgustingly (in a good way) heavy album.
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Yeah yeah ok, I was close-minded in saying Damnation sounds like Porcupine Tree, seeing as I've only heard Trains. *slaps self for close-mindedness*
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:lol: Dude, there are a bazillion PT songs that sound more like Damnation than Trains does. Anyway, people grossly overestimate the influence SW had on anything to do with those albums other than the production.


[quote=I Am Vikingcore]Mostly because noobs infiltrated that place with their filthy paws, you do realize most people who have ever heard Opeth can only name that song?[/quote]
It's probably true, although I saw a lot of older Opeth fans complaining that GoP was better too. What's your name on that forum?