[QUOTE=fingers mccoy;18539809]urban dictionary[/QUOTE]

The article in question was written by Vanwarp.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18539971]The article in question was written by Vanwarp.[/QUOTE]


A brilliantly executed stratagem. ;)

Post 1 - (Troll)
You guys remember "lol mutant" or am I just making that up?
Post 2 - (Toady 1)
I think the phrase "I sorta realize what I wanted" rings a bell...lol mutant
Post 3 - (Toady 2)
Yeah, he's a bit on the moronic side. lol mutant
Post 4 - (Toady 3)
I haven't seen lol mutant in ages, he was so lulsy.

... pretty close to lolvanwarp

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18540046]A brilliantly executed stratagem. ;)[/QUOTE]

..of backing up your own opinions with... your own opinions?

Logical fallacy right there, (whichever) dictionary (you chose to quote from) definition.

what mics do you guys use to record guitars?

[quote=Matt?;18540176]what mics do you guys use to record guitars?[/quote]


What kind of guitar (acoustic, electric, resonator, etc.)?

What style of music are you shooting for?

electric and alternative. i have a bunch of mics i use i'm more curious in what you guys use...

doesn't mean i won't take suggestions though, i'm just not big on home recording i basically just demo tracks. and everything sounds shitty. i figure a nice mic for recording guitars / vocals would help a lot

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18540102]..of backing up your own opinions with... your own opinions?
[/QUOTE]


More toady logic... :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18540102]Logical fallacy right there, (whichever) dictionary (you chose to quote from) definition.
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[B][I]“A brilliantly executed stratagem”[/I][/B] was clearly a statement of fact and it is not a false or incorrect logical principle, therefor, it is not a logical fallacy. Furthermore, your misuse of the concept of fallacy simply espouses your lunatic fringe... :p

exposes*

the usage of lunatic fringe i'm not even gonna bother with

stop trolling the troll

sm57 is go to for guitars, I've always used a Sennheiser MD421. Great mic.

[quote=Matt?;18540197]electric and alternative. i have a bunch of mics i use i'm more curious in what you guys use...

doesn't mean i won't take suggestions though, i'm just not big on home recording i basically just demo tracks. and everything sounds shitty. i figure a nice mic for recording guitars / vocals would help a lot[/quote]

I've actually already got a post about this in the thread talking about the "brute force" method I generally work with in this situation. That post is more abstract, so I'll give more details I guess:

My classic "go to" move for this is a combination of a Shure SM57 (up close, usually off-axis) and a Sennhesier MD421 (a little further away, axis is to taste). That combination not only works, but has the benefit of giving semi-aware clients confidence that I know what I'm doing because I'm sticking to "timeless" choices for guitar amps (but again, it [I]works[/I] most of the time, so that's just an added bonus).

Depending on what the rest of the session looks like, I might swap out the 421 with an Electro-Voice RE-20. It's got a more "full" representation of the frequency domain, and often will be the "main" mic, wherein I rely more on the SM57 for transient behavior.

For jazz or older style sounds (i.e., rockabilly or blue type stuff) I've tried small-diaphragm condensers with pretty good success: Shure SM81 and PG81 (more so the former). I find these to help bring out the clarity in the spring reverb on this styles.

Just recently experimented with super lo-fi gear/techniques (mic plugged in directly into a Tascam 414mkII 4-track cassette recorder). Lot of emphasis on the guitar/amp/mic/placement this way. I ended up settling on a Heil PR-20, and it worked pretty nicely for the clean settings I had (playing around the 10th fret on the high strings), but I didn't fair so well on the distortion settings. I actually think the trouble there was mostly in my amp settings: I generally like a brighter distortion which upon reflection I didn't really have, and the amp itself isn't exactly a tone machine in that department (Roland JC-90: sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't for distortion).

I'm also planning on doing a personal shoot-out (back in the digital realm) between a R0DE NT2000 and an AKG C414 (I just scored a good deal on that). About 5 years ago I used the 414 a little bit on guitar stuff when I was working in a high-dollar studio environment: it's a good general purpose mic, and it didn't fail me on guitar amps at the time.

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18540203]
[B][I]“A brilliantly executed stratagem”[/I][/B] was clearly a statement of fact [/QUOTE]

Prove it.


Also I can't be the lunatic fringe if I'm in the majority.

[QUOTE=Matt?;18540197]electric and alternative. i have a bunch of mics i use i'm more curious in what you guys use...

[B]doesn't mean i won't take suggestions though[/B], i'm just not big on home recording [B]i basically just demo tracks. and everything sounds shitty.[/B] i figure a nice mic for recording guitars / vocals would help a lot[/QUOTE]


Sure, a nice mic, a nice tube preamp and a nice tube amp can all help with your sound and tone but perhaps if everything sounds shitty on your demo tracks you can learn something about home recording with your computer...check out this demo on how its done with a budget multi-fx modeling unit, some very good tips btw:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/d4agreg#p/u/20/k_yd3s3Jeoo[/url]

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18540219]a budget multi-fx modeling unit,
[/QUOTE]

I wonder which one

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18540219]Sure, a nice mic, a nice tube preamp and a nice tube amp can all help with your sound and tone but perhaps if everything sounds shitty on your demo tracks you can learn something about home recording with your computer...check out this demo on how its done with a budget multi-fx modeling unit, some very good tips btw:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/user/d4agreg#p/u/20/k_yd3s3Jeoo[/url][/QUOTE]

woah you've changed my perception of the world... anyone want to buy my stompbox effects / amp? gotta go grab a zoom asap. lol. nope. not hating, i get that it works for you. definitely not for me though.

in all seriousness they sound shitty out of lazyness. theyre just practice demos. but i want to eventually record some nicer ones to help get more gigs. thanks for the insight moseph, i'll have to check that shit out after i fix my amp.

[QUOTE=I_am_the_One]“A brilliantly executed stratagem” was clearly a statement of fact...
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[QUOTE=Sad But True;18540217]Prove it.
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My answer is two-fold...

1. If you are asking me to prove that it was a statement of fact:

The proof is simply that my statement was in response to this...

[QUOTE=Sad But True]The article in question was written by Vanwarp.[/QUOTE]


[B]There is no argument. Therefor, my response was a statement of fact.[/B] ;)

2. If you are asking me to prove that it was [B]a brilliantly executed stratagem[/B]:

The proof is this realization...

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18491359][url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=toadies[/url]

[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=592730[/url]
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[B]When you put two and two together, not so clueless after all.[/B] ;)

[B]Priceless![/B] :p

That made no sense. Congrats.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18540284]That made no sense. Congrats.[/QUOTE]


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Shame you didn't use any.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18540990]Shame you didn't use any.[/QUOTE]


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;)

here let's get on topic.

I need to buy a 'sound system' to function between my computer and tv. I would like to be able to enjoy listening to music/entertainment as well as have a system sufficient in music production quality. I can't provide all the details as to what I'm after but if you give me something worth researching I may be able to narrow down my sights.

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Haha yeah sure.

whats with this dude and using the winking emoticon in every post

[QUOTE=GottaPost;18541134]whats with this dude and using the winking emoticon in every post[/QUOTE]

He's an idiot.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18541320]He's an idiot.[/QUOTE]


Psychological Projection

as opposed to photic projection...

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18541613]Psychological Projection[/QUOTE]

Occam's razor.

russell's teapot

[QUOTE=SugarCoatedSour;18541039]here let's get on topic.

I need to buy a 'sound system' to function between my computer and tv. I would like to be able to enjoy listening to music/entertainment as well as have a system sufficient in music production quality. I can't provide all the details as to what I'm after but if you give me something worth researching I may be able to narrow down my sights.[/QUOTE]

do you want speakers to be compatible with your computer and a home theatre system??

or did you mean speakers that are generally for music production but are also good "hi-fi" speakers and will sound good with movies?

[QUOTE=fingers mccoy;18541943]russell's teapot[/QUOTE]

Love this.

[QUOTE=Simpleton;18541945]do you want speakers to be compatible with your computer and a home theatre system??

or did you mean speakers that are generally for music production but are also good "hi-fi" speakers and will sound good with movies?[/QUOTE]

I can only speak from personal experience but I use my monitors for tv programs and gaming and everything and I'm quite happy with it.

all depends just how cash you have to spend.

i love my hifi (monitor audio and arcam stuff) but to convert it to an A/V system would cost me a fortune to keep the quality.

so, i too use my rockit powered monitors if i want to watch some music dvd's and they sound cool.

that said, wor lass's old man has just spent about 5k on a full surround system with monitor audio speaker and onkyo amp. sounds fucking amazing but quite a price too.

I don't watch cable/sat tv. My pc's permanent monitor is my TV, and my ps3 and all my systems are plugged in as well. So I want a system (surround) to be able to easily switch over for when I'm using pc to when I'm gaming and watching stuff on my ps3. I'd like to use DAWs and recording programs with computer....might get into protools in time.

[quote=SugarCoatedSour;18542034]I don't watch cable/sat tv. My pc's permanent monitor is my TV, and my ps3 and all my systems are plugged in as well. So I want a system (surround) to be able to easily switch over for when I'm using pc to when I'm gaming and watching stuff on my ps3. I'd like to use DAWs and recording programs with computer....might get into protools in time.[/quote]
I think any audio interface with an optical out would get you to the surround system. But unless you get like a Genelec 5.1 system, or like 5 of the Mackie Hr824's and a sub, or 5 of some small decent monitor and a sub it's probably not going to be good for mixing.

Finding a surround receiver that outputs analog at anything more than RCA standard would be hard.

I'll have to read into some of those terms. I'm at a research stage and need to come to know the basic types of configurations. What does a good monitor setup usually consist of?

2 full range speakers. If you have a sub it needs to be positioned well. Mostly for checking lower frequencies

I could do without surround sound....but having several speakers is nice. However if I need a mainstay then.....2 monitors would work as a good go between? What do I need to look for in the way of receiver or whatever other platform.

[quote=SugarCoatedSour;18542217]I'll have to read into some of those terms. I'm at a research stage and need to come to know the basic types of configurations. What does a good monitor setup usually consist of?[/quote]
Okay so basically, ADAT, or optical out/in is how 5.1 formats are transmitted. Your PS3 should have one at the back. HDMI can also transmit 5.1. But for example with my PS3 I use the HDMI to transmit the video and then the optical to go to my stereo (I ditched the 5.1 because hardly anything I watch is ever in true 5.1 and wires are ugly. And I don't care if it's down mixed.)

TBH I'd keep everything in plain stereo. Almost everything is Stereo usually. And I prefer things coming from in front from behind as well. Kinda distracting to be honest. But that's personal taste.

So your setup would consist of an Audio interface, I recommend the Echo Audiofire8. It's got heaps of connectivity, it's cheap, and for recording it has two 'okay' preamps. The converters are perfectly adequate.

You could do a 5.1 thing out from that Echo Audiofire8, it has 8 analog outs, but then your 5.1 setup would need to be very expensive, most cheaper setups only have RCA inputs/outputs. The Echo also has digital out so you could configure it to go digitally to your 5.1 receiver (I dunno if that's what you call it, but basically the thing you put CD's in etc) and then it would output analog signal to your speakers.


A wireless 5.1 system is the way to go. But to find one that would work for mixing audio and be cheap would be impossible.

Thanks for the infoz and suggests. I shall be doing some reading when I get back from my lesson tonight. Thanks again, be back soon.