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Daven 06-28-2007 01:03 PM

Im just asking what genre they are.

i am the robots 06-28-2007 01:03 PM

Yo, Retired. Go back to being a good poster, thanks.

Nostalgia 06-28-2007 01:03 PM

lol what? I don't wanna defend him, 'cause that's gay, but he's pretty top-notch when it comes to this shi'.

Invicta_Veritas 06-28-2007 01:04 PM

[quote=Nostalgia;14898274]Why're you arguing with Matt? He's like the harcore/metalcore/whatevercore resident.[/quote]

I usually side with Matt. In this, though, I'm just pointing out the obvious. I'm not really arguing with him; I'm just making matters worse for his arguement with Retired.

i am the robots 06-28-2007 01:05 PM

And yeah, the only cores that matter are hardcore, metalcore, and grindcore... if more actual deathcore existed, I'd be all over that style's balls.

Tyler 06-28-2007 01:12 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14898011]Thread needs more Cursed talk. By definition they're metalcore; they mix metal, hardcore, thrash and sludge/stoner, yet they sound almost nothing like other metalcore bands. There's a slight Kurt Ballou influence which comes from them being on Deathwish, but I digress.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=d_hZd6oiy1c[/url]
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dr_3p6PNUHU[/url]
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=bMp5-VbpnYw[/url]

RetiredAt21 06-28-2007 01:12 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;14898290]Yo, Retired. Go back to being a good poster, thanks.[/QUOTE]

Yo, i am the robots, listen to better music.

i am the robots 06-28-2007 01:13 PM

...kind of what I was talking about...

RetiredAt21 06-28-2007 01:13 PM

Cursed f[I]u[/I]cking rules. Can't believe I forgot about those guys.

margin0walker 06-28-2007 01:14 PM

deathcore is stupid

Nostalgia 06-28-2007 01:14 PM

Why don't you guys all just come to the conclusion that if you listen to this music you're gay by default anyway?

Christ, I'm like a ****ing mediator.

no offence matt

Tyler 06-28-2007 01:15 PM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14898373]Cursed f[I]u[/I]cking rules. Can't believe I forgot about those guys.[/QUOTE]

III is supposedly coming out soon. I'm so cheesed, I missed a free Cursed show because I didn't have ID.

RetiredAt21 06-28-2007 01:15 PM

[QUOTE=Nostalgia;14898381]Why don't you guys all just come to the conclusion that if you listen to this music you're gay by default anyway?

Christ, I'm like a ****ing mediator.

no offence matt[/QUOTE]

**** you. Metalcore isn't the only kind of music I listen to, prick.

RetiredAt21 06-28-2007 01:16 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14898386]III is supposedly coming out soon. I'm so cheesed, I missed a free Cursed show because I didn't have ID.[/QUOTE]

Not having ID blows. :(

i am the robots 06-28-2007 01:17 PM

Yeah it fu[size=2]cking[/size] does. I should just go about getting my license already, but... lazyness.

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14898373]Cursed f[I]u[/I]cking rules.[/QUOTE]

Pretty much.

Seems whenever something is pre-As I Lay Dying/Killswitch Engage/Unearth it's almost 200% more listenable.

Tyler 06-28-2007 01:18 PM

[QUOTE=RetiredAt21;14898394]Not having ID blows. :([/QUOTE]

Yeah, luckily today's my 19th, so I am now legal and ready.

Nostalgia 06-28-2007 01:19 PM

[QUOTE]Metalcore isn't the only kind of music I listen to, prick.[/QUOTE]

Do you listen to deathcore too?

ok I'm done

Invicta_Veritas 06-28-2007 01:20 PM

Seriously, wtf is deathcore?


I always assumed it was **** like Beneath the Sky.... american dm but with the occassional crappy hardcore vocals...

Tyler 06-28-2007 01:20 PM

Actual, legit metalcore is one of my favourite genres. I've yet to hear actual deathcore that seemed like a real blend of death metal and hardcore.

Nostalgia 06-28-2007 01:29 PM

[QUOTE]so I am now legal and ready.[/QUOTE]

Oh baby.

i am the robots 06-28-2007 01:53 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14898417]Actual, legit metalcore is one of my favourite genres. I've yet to hear actual deathcore that seemed like a real blend of death metal and hardcore.[/QUOTE]

The Red Chord, Despised Icon.

Despised Icon is terribly bland though, so whatever.

LifeInABox 06-28-2007 01:53 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14898417]Actual, legit metalcore is one of my favourite genres. I've yet to hear actual deathcore that seemed like a real blend of death metal and hardcore.[/QUOTE]

Eh, I was going to say The Red Chord, but I really don't know.

@BRA, I saw BTS live, they are definatly just flat out weak metalcore :/. The dudes were cool though.

RouteOne 06-28-2007 01:55 PM

botch botch botch botch

i am the robots 06-28-2007 01:57 PM

converge converge converge converge

Tyler 06-28-2007 02:04 PM

[QUOTE]The Red Chord, Despised Icon.[/QUOTE]
Eh. The red chord's first album is like, death/grind but clients and the new one are pretty much just generic metalcore, though the new one is a little less shitty.

despised icon to me have always just been average death metal. i wrote a review for the healing process and have no idea what i wrote anymore, that's how forgettable it is.

LifeInABox 06-28-2007 02:05 PM

Oh yeah I forgot. How is Pray For Eyes?

i am the robots 06-28-2007 02:05 PM

Clients is not generic metalcore at all.

And yeah, Despised Icon is boring.

Tyler 06-28-2007 02:09 PM

[QUOTE]Clients is not generic metalcore at all.[/QUOTE]
meh, it's pretty bad regardless. Prey for Eyes is better, but the vocals still suck.

2muchket! 06-28-2007 02:10 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;14898401]


Pretty much.

Seems whenever something is pre-As I Lay Dying/Killswitch Engage/Unearth it's almost 200% more listenable.[/QUOTE]

True to some extent this. There are a lot of sh'it metalcore around but you can't argue with the fact that KsE have done some of the best metalcore for years.

Invicta_Veritas 06-28-2007 02:12 PM

[quote=Hbp;14898456]
@BRA, I saw BTS live, they are definatly just flat out weak metalcore :/. The dudes were cool though.[/quote]

Really? [I]What Demons Do to Saints[/I] definitely has it's DM moments...

i am the robots 06-28-2007 02:13 PM

I still like Killswitch, just some of their stuff is really lame.

Invicta_Veritas 06-28-2007 02:14 PM

Old KsE is ****ing great. The newer stuff is meh.

2muchket! 06-28-2007 02:14 PM

It's the same formula throughout there albums pretty much and it can get a bit repetitive but some of their other stuff is amazing.

[QUOTE=Behemoth_Rules_All;14898563]Old KsE is ****ing great. The newer stuff is meh.[/QUOTE]

Howard is an equal if not better vocalist in my opinion.

LifeInABox 06-28-2007 02:15 PM

IMO they are generic garbage. BTS that is.


I diverisfied. Over the last few days I found that I was growing farter away from Metalcore and closer to Death Metal. As of right now (this is subject to change) the only Metalcore I enjoy is:

Converge
Botch
The Red Chord
Norma Jean
Every Time I Die
The Chariot
Killswitch Engage
Misery Signals
Poison The Well
and Unearth

EDIT:
All That Remains
Bleeding Through (to a certian extent)

margin0walker 06-28-2007 02:15 PM

curl up and die curl up and die curl up and die

Invicta_Veritas 06-28-2007 02:17 PM

[quote=Frankie;14898567]It's the same formula throughout there albums pretty much and it can get a bit repetitive but some of their other stuff is amazing.



Howard is an equal if not better vocalist in my opinion.[/quote]

No doubt, I've never debated that. If anything, he's probably the more skilled of the two, and definitely more powerful with clean singing. I just like Jesse's style and tone more.

And I was referring more to the music itself. Old KsE seemed so much more aggressive.

Tyler 06-28-2007 02:19 PM

[QUOTE=margin0walker;14898573]curl up and die curl up and die curl up and die[/QUOTE]

[SIzE="7"]POSITIVE REP[/SIZE]

CityOfEvil 06-28-2007 02:23 PM

I really like Ks. Old and new stuff are great.

[QUOTE]Howard is an equal if not better vocalist in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

This. I like Howard better than Jesse.

RouteOne 06-28-2007 02:24 PM

Everyone needs to listen to all else failed. seriously.

RetiredAt21 06-28-2007 02:26 PM

Killswitch Engage sucks balls.


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