Can you teach yourself how to sing? That's my question.
I'm a self taught guitar player and drummer of a couple years now and I'm (without bragging) always looked up and mentioned by friends and such when it comes down to instruments.

But one thing I've never tried but always have wanted to be able to do is sing. So I've been sort of working on it lately. I have a good ear so I can pick up notes and mimic styles quite easily, and to me some things I "sing" sound fine but I've never tried singing to anyone else to have their opinion because I always figured it was all in my mind and I probably sucked in reality.

So the other day I was in the basement waiting for my band to arrive, and I was singing/playing Alice In Chain's Nutshell acousticly. My band walks in without me noticing (which is good because I'm shy. so I didnt notice and kept singing loud) and they were freaking out asking me when I learned how to sing and where that came from.

Needless to say I was pumped about it, but then again.. that IS a really easy song to sing sort of.. and, I WAS just mimicing someones voice not knowing what the hell I was actually singing and just trying to be in tune with my guitar..

But since then, I've been wondering.. is it possible to teach yourself how to sing? have any of you guys? I know a couple people but it's always like "my dad was a singer" or "my uncle was in a band and gave me some tips"

if it IS possible, how should I go on about this whole thing?

any help/replies are appreciated, sorry for the goddamn long post haha

You probably [I]can [/I]teach yourself to sing, but it's going to be a more difficult road than if you get professional help. How much more difficult? Well, that depends on you and what kind of natural gift you have for singing.

If you really want to take this route, you [I]must [/I]get a good singing manual. My own [I]Singing Secrets[/I] ( [url]http://voicestudio.kristinaseleshanko.com/SingingSecrets.htm[/url] ) is simple and straightforward. Others will reccommend Brett Manning's stuff. If you don't learn good technique up front, you'll regret it later because you'll be plagued with vocal difficulties. It's even possible to damage your voice.

But if you're really serious about singing, nothing can take the place of a live, in-person teacher.Here's something I wrote on this subject in [I]Singing Secrets[/I]:

"In my experience, both as a singer and as a voice teacher, I’ve found that older singing books often contain incorrect or dubious information. Newer books about singing frequently omit vital information or are overly–complex. (Learning to sing needn’t be complicated, yet many people try to make it so.) On the other hand, this book contains the basics that singers must know in order to be a success, whether they’re singing hard rock, classical, or something in–between. And, I hope, these basics are presented in a simple, easy to understand fashion.



Granted, there are areas of singing that are extremely difficult to teach through a book. Frankly, there’s no substitute for studying with a teacher, in person. Phone lessons may be somewhat helpful, CDs and DVDs may be useful to a degree, and books can be valuable guides, but nothing takes the place of having a qualified person watch and hear you in person. In addition, beyond a foundational understanding of what good technique is, no two singers will discover the same “cure” for their singing woes. A good teacher customizes lessons accordingly, creating new ways of explaining things and finding innovative exercises to help individuals reach their goals. In a book, however, the best anyone can do is offer advice on what has worked for many other singers. "

Best wishes,
Kristina
[url]http://voicestudio.kristinaseleshanko.com[/url]

[quote=Perhaps Crickets;13846862]Merk, I've been practicing my harsh vocals a ton over the holiday break and a few weeks ago I got it down perfect tech wise.

Another way for someone to easily learn the false chords is to sigh, then sigh heavily and then ultimately apply that into a vocal. After that, just forcing the access air up. It's almost impossible to close your throat.

I still use my "true chords" for the banshee wails, haha. But that's about as open as my throat can be and I don't do those much so my chords will never get hurt obviously.

I can do vox for like a couple hours a day! taking a day or two off when needed and it's effortless. I just had to control the push better.

Anyways, thanks for your guides. I used them quite a bit in my learning vocals.

[B]
btw, word of advice for kids begging to learn screaming or growling. You'll know when you do it right, believe me. When you do it right, it's effortless, painless and you can do it all night long! Instead of soreness, pain or stratchy voice and such.[/B][/quote]

[U]Is this really true? When I growl or scream i can only do it for maybe 5 seconds MAXIMUM without stopping and taking a huge breathe. [/U]

Since I have a very hard time with harsh vocals and I always seem to do it wrong, I think i should get vocal lessons. Once I get down clean vocals really well, I think it should be alot easier to growl and scream.

Because almost every good singer out there CAN scream and growl, even though they don't do it, but I'm sure it's possible for them.

But the underlined is the most important thing i need to know.

Also, toaster, get on soulseek when you get the chance.

[QUOTE=King_Of_Terrors;14027039][U]Is this really true? When I growl or scream i can only do it for maybe 5 seconds MAXIMUM without stopping and taking a huge breathe. [/U]

Since I have a very hard time with harsh vocals and I always seem to do it wrong, I think i should get vocal lessons. Once I get down clean vocals really well, I think it should be alot easier to growl and scream.

Because almost every good singer out there CAN scream and growl, even though they don't do it, but I'm sure it's possible for them.

But the underlined is the most important thing i need to know.

Also, toaster, get on soulseek when you get the chance.[/QUOTE]

Your main area of focus with running out of breath is very simple to fix.

You, as does any singer/vocalist, need to work on breath control.


Lay on your back, using your nose to breath, inhale for say 10 seconds, then hold the air for 10 seconds, then exhale (control!!!!) for 10 seconds.
What ever time length feels fine at first works.

My biceps won't grow in size without doing curls, so why would your lungs hold more air without working them out?


Practice those breath control exercises. You run out of breath because of a lack of air!!! This is one of the easier things to fix.

oh, you need to do them as long as you're singing. Otherwise, the benefit gained will vanish.

Lessons will help, but if you're capable of using your gut now, do the above^^.

How do I go higher? I think I'm doing my high screams the same way as my growls, and I know it isn't right, because it sounds like **** and I can't go high.

Seems like when you go higher you tighten your throat more or something.

I'll try that breathing.

[QUOTE=King_Of_Terrors;14035046]How do I go higher? I think I'm doing my high screams the same way as my growls, and I know it isn't right, because it sounds like **** and I can't go high.

Seems like when you go higher you tighten your throat more or something.

I'll try that breathing.[/QUOTE]

Oh... if you're tightening your throat... you need to practice chord isolation exercises. Follow the guides merk wrote for that. They are great.

Also, don't try different range harsh vocals unless you chord isolation down. You're basically treading water.

For higher range, look a bit up. That can help keep it open.

Its best to not look up; its a crutch that will only limit you in the future. Connecting head movements with the level the pitch is at is never a good idea. For training, sit there without moving anything at all on your face; eyesbrows,eyes,nose, not even your jaw really when doing open vowel scales. Once you have your technique down to the point of being able to sing high no matter what, then you can add the looking up for high notes for effect if thats what you want to do. A good test is to move your head slowly from side to side while going up in scale; if you crack then you are holding too much tension somewhere from the neck up and that needs to be addressed. Once you learn to relax, you'll be surprised at how fast the high notes start coming to you.

[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YKV9W7tLSR0[/url]


^^ How can I do those type of vocals?

Any guidance would be much appriecated!

I'm a screamer/singer dude who found a method of screaming that doesn't hurt my throat. It's kind of like a head-voice high-pitched chainsaw scream (think Deftones). I could do it song after song and still be able to hit the highest notes I ever could. But recently I got 3 colds in a row (rare for me), and I noticed a change in my voice and I couldn't scream as well...just didn't have the quality it use to have. With the 3rd cold, I had a really bad lingering cough and it totally wacked my voice...and ever since, my voice has really sucked. I can scream ok for maybe one song, and then all of a sudden I can't do it anymore. Using the same technique that used to save my voice is now making me blow out (though still not as quick as if I just let loose uncontrolled screams).

I keep practicing but I haven't had as many chances to recently...but it just doesn't seem to be getting any better. My range isn't very good anymore. It's been almost 2 months and I'm so tired of it.

My question is whether I should just rest my voice for a good long time and come back to it later, or should I try to do a rigorous practice regimen like I used to? Would the latter hurt my voice? Or will it be the only way I'll ever get my voice back?

Can anyone help me learn to sing more like Benjamin Kowalewicz of Billy Talent? I like his voice and singing style a lot and would enjoy being able to sing like him. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Hey I fooled around and got a way to add rasp but it doesnt sound good, kinda weakish i guess would describe it? But it didnt hurt at all so is it just the matter of doing it more so it becomes better/strong? Or am i doing the wrong thing.

[QUOTE=Crickets Hail The Goat;14049518][url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YKV9W7tLSR0[/url]


^^ How can I do those type of vocals?

Any guidance would be much appriecated![/QUOTE]

It's all a matter of practice. Get down the foundation (breathing correctly, pushing down for support, placing the tone to the soft pallate, not letting the sound fall "below the pencil" as melissa cross says). Buy her The Zen of Screaming DVD and get her new one which is about to come out called The Zen of Screamin 2. Zen 1 gets you ready for exactly what your wanting to do by giving you the basics, and Zen 2 is going to show you how to get that sound.

[QUOTE=eddiewan;14060870]I'm a screamer/singer dude who found a method of screaming that doesn't hurt my throat. It's kind of like a head-voice high-pitched chainsaw scream (think Deftones). I could do it song after song and still be able to hit the highest notes I ever could. But recently I got 3 colds in a row (rare for me), and I noticed a change in my voice and I couldn't scream as well...just didn't have the quality it use to have. With the 3rd cold, I had a really bad lingering cough and it totally wacked my voice...and ever since, my voice has really sucked. I can scream ok for maybe one song, and then all of a sudden I can't do it anymore. Using the same technique that used to save my voice is now making me blow out (though still not as quick as if I just let loose uncontrolled screams).

I keep practicing but I haven't had as many chances to recently...but it just doesn't seem to be getting any better. My range isn't very good anymore. It's been almost 2 months and I'm so tired of it.

My question is whether I should just rest my voice for a good long time and come back to it later, or should I try to do a rigorous practice regimen like I used to? Would the latter hurt my voice? Or will it be the only way I'll ever get my voice back?[/QUOTE]

Go to an ENT if you can afford it so they can check you out with a fiberoptic camera that can actually see your cords. You could have some damage from the constant illness, acid reflux, a burst blood vessel, anything. It may also just simply be the fact that you were sick forever and coughing. Coughing slams your cords together with extreme force. The more you do it, the more swollen they become, and the more swollen they become the more mucus is produced. Mucus is going to make it virtually impossible for the cords to vibrate as efficiently as they need to in order to sing with much of a range.

Do slides on lip bubbles (let your lips flutter like a horse or a boat) and on the vowel EE as see. Never push it and don't make it very loud. It's going to take awhile to get back to normal, but as long as you vocalize you'll be alright. I'd do a lot of the lip bubbles/EE vowel slides for a week or two before getting back to normal. If after 2 weeks your voice isnt back to normal, go to the ENT.

[QUOTE=cooter-cricket;14073257]Can anyone help me learn to sing more like Benjamin Kowalewicz of Billy Talent? I like his voice and singing style a lot and would enjoy being able to sing like him. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Don't copy anyone. For one thing, you aren't always going to like him as much as you do now. The more music you listen to, the more your tastes change trust me. Then you are basically spending a lot of useless time to become an impersonator of someone you don't like nearly as well anymore.

Also, he sounds like he does because of his anatomy. The size of his vocal cords, body, shape of his face, size of his nose, everything affects the sound. You can change your tone with training, but never to an extreme amount. If you just want to sing in the same style, then learn his songs but don't copy his tone, just the style points that you like about him.

[QUOTE=kidthatplaysguitar91;14075853]Hey I fooled around and got a way to add rasp but it doesnt sound good, kinda weakish i guess would describe it? But it didnt hurt at all so is it just the matter of doing it more so it becomes better/strong? Or am i doing the wrong thing.[/QUOTE]

Post a sample if you can. Otherwise, try to explain what you are doing. If it doesn't hurt, then it wont hurt you to keep trying it for a few weeks and see if it turns into anything useful.

[QUOTE=eddiewan;14060870]I'm a screamer/singer dude who found a method of screaming that doesn't hurt my throat. It's kind of like a head-voice high-pitched chainsaw scream (think Deftones). I could do it song after song and still be able to hit the highest notes I ever could. But recently I got 3 colds in a row (rare for me), and I noticed a change in my voice and I couldn't scream as well...just didn't have the quality it use to have. With the 3rd cold, I had a really bad lingering cough and it totally wacked my voice...and ever since, my voice has really sucked. I can scream ok for maybe one song, and then all of a sudden I can't do it anymore. Using the same technique that used to save my voice is now making me blow out (though still not as quick as if I just let loose uncontrolled screams).

I keep practicing but I haven't had as many chances to recently...but it just doesn't seem to be getting any better. My range isn't very good anymore. It's been almost 2 months and I'm so tired of it.

My question is whether I should just rest my voice for a good long time and come back to it later, or should I try to do a rigorous practice regimen like I used to? Would the latter hurt my voice? Or will it be the only way I'll ever get my voice back?[/QUOTE]

When did you have your last cold?

I was in the same situation, I'm only just getting back into it after a month.

Just don't scream for two or three weeks, I'm not sure if it'll suck for you like it did for me, but it's worth it in the long run, just work on your clean voice as much as you can without overdoing it.

Since this appeared to have been missed,

Any tips for doing these type of vocals?
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YKV9W7tLSR0[/url]

Rely too much on head position? Completely disregard all concept of technique? Push yourself beyond your range?

[QUOTE=Screamin_Demon_Auz;14076578]It's all a matter of practice. Get down the foundation (breathing correctly, pushing down for support, placing the tone to the soft pallate, not letting the sound fall "below the pencil" as melissa cross says). Buy her The Zen of Screaming DVD and get her new one which is about to come out called The Zen of Screamin 2. Zen 1 gets you ready for exactly what your wanting to do by giving you the basics, and Zen 2 is going to show you how to get that sound.[/QUOTE]

Already answered.

[QUOTE=Eleventeen;14077470]When did you have your last cold?

I was in the same situation, I'm only just getting back into it after a month.

Just don't scream for two or three weeks, I'm not sure if it'll suck for you like it did for me, but it's worth it in the long run, just work on your clean voice as much as you can without overdoing it.[/QUOTE]

Musta been about 2 months, give or take. I have noticed an improvement. As Screamin_Demon_Auz said, it's the cough that did it for me...

I'm always looking for better methods of doing things. When I started coughing, I started getting into that hoarse grunt/overdrive cough that's painful to even listen to. So instead of that, I'd try doing a silent breathe-cough that sounded like a snake hissing. I thought it'd be less damaging, but apparently it wasn't!!! lol...I guess the best way to handle a cough is just to try to control the urge and not do it.


On a side note, I've noticed that eating different foods (more specifically, different foods passing through the throat) affect the quality of my vocals. If I brush my teeth, my scream suffers until the taste of toothpaste is out of my mouth. Same with minty chewing gum. I've noticed that Chili makes me sound pretty good! Anyone pay attention to what they've eaten when they find they're having a "bad singing day"?

Strangely enough, I seem to be at my vocal best after work around 9PM.

Make sure your not relying on those things to produce your sound. You are at your best at 9 pm because your voice is fully warmed up and as loose as possible from speaking all day. Thats just a sign that you need to warm up more, and if you havent been you need to start. A 15 minute warm up should do you a lot of good and give you real consistency. Make sure you warm down too.

Instead of coughing, you can drink water if you have it around. That usually helps because the feeling of needing to cough is usually figured by feeling dry. Even though it takes at least 20 mins for the water to actually get to the cords, the brain still sends signals that water is on the way and some of it does actually touch the throat which causes relief. Another good idea is to get a little spray bottle, fill it with distilled water, and spray it in your mouth. If you inhale as your spraying, some of it will actually come in contact directly with the cords.

The mint in the toothpaste is probably just drying your throat out a bit which makes it harder to sing. Water is always the solution. Chili really won't help in the long run because your probably going to develop reflux if you eat some then immediately begin singing. You'll just be pushing it right back up your throat from the force and burning the cords. It's best to just stick to water only when singing and you'll be set.

[QUOTE=Screamin_Demon_Auz;14076614]Post a sample if you can. Otherwise, try to explain what you are doing. If it doesn't hurt, then it wont hurt you to keep trying it for a few weeks and see if it turns into anything useful.[/QUOTE]



Well do you know how people describe screaming or adding rasp like you make the annkkkk buzzer noise and thats why you use for it? well i think thats what i do. When i first do it my voice gets like, itchy kinda, but then after a little it goes away. So yeah if i get the chance i'll post recordings. But i'll try it for a little and see if it gets better. Or if it ****s me up a little then i'll stop.

Alright, well I would keep doing that but like Melissa Cross teaches, put a pencil between your teeth. Make sure that the sound is always being placed (felt) above the pencil. Your aiming for it to be on your soft pallate. A good thing to do is just sing AH first clean, then gradually adding rasp. As soon as you get the rasp, back off and go back to clean. Do this on each of your notes and mark down the highest you can rasp and the lowest.

The itching is a sign your cords are drying up from an excess of air. Try to use the absolute minimum amount of breath you can to produce it.

[QUOTE=Screamin_Demon_Auz;14080019]Alright, well I would keep doing that but like Melissa Cross teaches, put a pencil between your teeth. Make sure that the sound is always being placed (felt) above the pencil. Your aiming for it to be on your soft pallate. A good thing to do is just sing AH first clean, then gradually adding rasp. As soon as you get the rasp, back off and go back to clean. Do this on each of your notes and mark down the highest you can rasp and the lowest.

The itching is a sign your cords are drying up from an excess of air. Try to use the absolute minimum amount of breath you can to produce it.[/QUOTE]



Thats probally the best description i've gotten of how to add rasp, thanks! :thumb:

[QUOTE=Screamin_Demon_Auz;14078686]Already answered.[/QUOTE]

Sorry for missing it there. I think it's just not within my range to sound like that. Oh well, no use in pushing myself into a range I don't have naturally.

For the "pushing down", I always inhale JUST A BIT over my exhaled growl/scream for several reasons. It keeps me from going to hard and makes it sound a lot more smooth.

Is that what you mean? Any views on this tech?

I have not been practicing my vocals much lately so I'm getting rusty.

ITT Dylan and I give slight little tips on screaming while people who know a hell of a lot more than us explain every single other thing... hooray for mastering one small piece of the puzzle :chug:.

[QUOTE=Eleventeen;14084620]ITT Dylan and I give slight little tips on screaming while people who know a hell of a lot more than us explain every single other thing... hooray for mastering one small piece of the puzzle :chug:.[/QUOTE]

Here, here. :chug:

Has Screamin' Demon ever posted sound clips? How long has he or she been screaming? etc

I'll hopefully have more recent vocal recordings up soon for me and my old bands' drummer's noisecore project.

Wow, off topic, hoorah.

But yeah, expect See You Next Tuesday style low parts.

[QUOTE=Crickets Hail The Goat;14083402]Sorry for missing it there. I think it's just not within my range to sound like that. Oh well, no use in pushing myself into a range I don't have naturally.

For the "pushing down", I always inhale JUST A BIT over my exhaled growl/scream for several reasons. It keeps me from going to hard and makes it sound a lot more smooth.

Is that what you mean? Any views on this tech?

I have not been practicing my vocals much lately so I'm getting rusty.[/QUOTE]

If that works for you and theres no signs of damage at all then keep doing it. It is a bit of a crutch though. Get Melissa Cross's new DVD when it comes out on January 31 I think.

[QUOTE=Crickets Hail The Goat;14084633]Here, here. :chug:

Has Screamin' Demon ever posted sound clips? How long has he or she been screaming? etc[/QUOTE]

I've only posted a few rough clips throughout the years, the main ones done when I was pretty sing. I can scream but I don't because it's really not in my style at all. When i'm singing metal, it's usually pretty clean like Queensryche, Dream Theater, some Priest, Maiden, etc. I also do R&B/Soul type music which definetly doesn't need screaming. Yeah, the name makes no sense whatsoever since I don't really scream , I stole it from Steven Tyler. I'm male by the way.

Help!
 

I'm a bariton-tentative tenor. does anyone kno any r&B / pop singers with this vocal range
i cant seem to fine any.

Dont worry about vocal categorization; it's pointless unless you're doing classical. Work on some Seal songs; they are all pretty challenging even though they don't sound like it. Baritone/Tenor would cover basically everyone, but again it doesnt matter. I'm sure all of your favorites would be considered either tenor or baritone, most are baritone though.

Hello people,

I am looking for some critique/advice on my vocals, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but it sure looks like it to me...lol

A bit of background: I picked up singing a few months ago and try to sing in a classic metal style (Dickinson/Conklin/Tate etc..) I have had no formal training apart from basic solfege when I was a kid lol, and I'd be grateful if someone could point me to books/methods, whatever that I could use to improve my technique for this particular style of singing.

Here's a song of mine to check out:

[url]http://download.yousendit.com/517068376F1DC7A7[/url]

If thats your voice you need to be putting your energy into getting on tour on something. Dont worry about singing. Just stay hydrated, eat well, warm up and warm down.

But if you really want to read then start here....[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]
Merkabas Voice-Help Hotline - Music & Musician Forums

And check out Mark Baxter [url]http://www.voicelesson.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Screamin_Demon_Auz;14096840]Dont worry about vocal categorization; it's pointless unless you're doing classical. Work on some Seal songs; they are all pretty challenging even though they don't sound like it. Baritone/Tenor would cover basically everyone, but again it doesnt matter. I'm sure all of your favorites would be considered either tenor or baritone, most are baritone though.[/QUOTE]

I somewhat disagree. With rock, its so edgy it doesnt matter as much. but if youre a baritone and youre trying to sing even a high bartione or tenor song it will more than likely suck when you record it with quality mics. Hell I would love to cover circa survive live, but in the studio it would suck. The tone and quality will sound pinched and the ear can tell. But in general go for whatever. Your voice will let you know after a while anyways. Record it acapella too, anything you work on record it without the music and see how you really sound.

Pop and R&B especially, you can change the key around quite a bit to suit your voice. In rock/metal, most singers just push the hell out of their voice because more than likely the band isnt going to change the key to better suit your voice since in most rock/metal, the voice isn't really the main focus.

In pop and r&b, it is the main focus so anything can be adjusted. Even if you don't want to change the key, you should still be able to get away with just changing it around a bit. Seal for example, one of my favorite singers in the world but he doesn't have much range. Its his tone thats difficult to match, so you can do your own version of any of his songs but either ina different key or with a totally different tonal approach.

The categorization does matter to an extent, but basically as long as you train you are going to develop the ability to sing any note in your range however you want it to sound. Once you have that kind of control over your range, the possibilites of what you can sing are pretty much limitless.

[QUOTE=Merkaba;14149709]If thats your voice you need to be putting your energy into getting on tour on something. Dont worry about singing. Just stay hydrated, eat well, warm up and warm down.

But if you really want to read then start here....[url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911[/url]
Merkabas Voice-Help Hotline - Music & Musician Forums

And check out Mark Baxter [url]http://www.voicelesson.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

lol, thanks man but I feel I'm nowhere near as good as I could be if I followed a structured practice regime.

Thanks for the links, I'll check them out. :thumb:

hi,
i am, like many other as i can see, working on my screaming...
i do it for about 2 or 3 months but it didn't improve too much during the last month... i had one week were is was perfectly able to produce the sound i am looking for without the feeling of hurt or hoarsness or anything... but after that week it was gone again and now i am really frustrated..
so i read a lot in forums like this and began asking myself that this could be because of wrong food because i am really into cheese, what means i eat it like all day... so would it be worth a try to not eat any milkproducts for lets say 2 weeks or is it sure not to work because i just dont do it right (the screaming)? my singing was always good (i had lessons for some time..) and i never got into problems with this but like i said before, i am really frustrated... i started with a new band and we are doing this pop metal thing with 3 voices... two of us shouting/screaming at some parts.. the other screamer was able to scream in a good way very fast (infact he gets hoarse and cant do the singing parts after screaming, but he doesn't care... can't force him to be carefull) while i scream extremly quiet in comparison with my singing voice.

so enough of my ****... 1. will changing my nurtition help with screaming
and 2. when i record something and post it here, will someone who knows what hes saying listen to it and provide me with tips? ;)

greats and thanks in advance, zorgblaubaer

[quote=zorgblaubaer;14175073]hi,
i am, like many other as i can see, working on my screaming...
i do it for about 2 or 3 months but it didn't improve too much during the last month... i had one week were is was perfectly able to produce the sound i am looking for without the feeling of hurt or hoarsness or anything... but after that week it was gone again and now i am really frustrated..
so i read a lot in forums like this and began asking myself that this could be because of wrong food because i am really into cheese, what means i eat it like all day... so would it be worth a try to not eat any milkproducts for lets say 2 weeks or is it sure not to work because i just dont do it right (the screaming)? my singing was always good (i had lessons for some time..) and i never got into problems with this but like i said before, i am really frustrated... i started with a new band and we are doing this pop metal thing with 3 voices... two of us shouting/screaming at some parts.. the other screamer was able to scream in a good way very fast (infact he gets hoarse and cant do the singing parts after screaming, but he doesn't care... can't force him to be carefull) while i scream extremly quiet in comparison with my singing voice.

so enough of my ****... 1. will changing my nurtition help with screaming
and 2. when i record something and post it here, will someone who knows what hes saying listen to it and provide me with tips? ;)

greats and thanks in advance, zorgblaubaer[/quote]

Sounds like your doing it wrong. I really don't think food affects you. If you eat too much cheese, then just drink some water before you scream. Make sure you warm up, do little grunts and stuff for awhile, it will affect the sound of your scream greatly.

[QUOTE=HereticX;14147212]Hello people,

I am looking for some critique/advice on my vocals, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but it sure looks like it to me...lol

A bit of background: I picked up singing a few months ago and try to sing in a classic metal style (Dickinson/Conklin/Tate etc..) I have had no formal training apart from basic solfege when I was a kid lol, and I'd be grateful if someone could point me to books/methods, whatever that I could use to improve my technique for this particular style of singing.

Here's a song of mine to check out:

[url]http://download.yousendit.com/517068376F1DC7A7[/url][/QUOTE]

Pretty badass for that style, man. Cool band, too.