^^

I agree, and
10 minute+ length does make a song radio unfriendly, there aren't many radiostations who will play that.

and they will make crappy radio-edits, who do no justice to the song :mad:

the radiochannel I listen to; arrow classic rock does play long (radio unfriendly songs),
they played the entire pink floyd 'echoes' song.
we need more radiostations like that :(

So... I've begun listening to dream theater now (about five or six weeks ago)....
I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!
I only got their two first but I thought that "when dream and day unit" was one of the best albums I’ve ever heard, no group has ever given such a great first impression as this one. Others don't seem to have the same opinion about their first album…
Does anyone else but me think that it is very underrated?

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Some of their stuff off Images and Words might be radio friendly, but generally, anything from Awake on really isn't, save "As I Am"[/QUOTE]

Except select tracks from Falling Into Infinity (Take Away My Pain, Anna Lee, Burning My Soul to name three).

But hey, even a relatively commercial album like FII is still an incredible album. How many other albums can you have 'poppy' songs and also have progressive masterpieces like New Millenium, Hell's Kitchen and Trial Of Tears yet still sound like the same band?

yogaguitar - WDADU has the fourth best DT song on it - Only A Matter Of Time. So of course it's good.

[QUOTE=the2stranger]^^

I agree, and
10 minute+ length does make a song radio unfriendly, there aren't many radiostations who will play that.

and they will make crappy radio-edits, who do no justice to the song :mad:
[/QUOTE]

Not true.

My station has played unedited cuts of various Tool songs, including Lateralus at 9:24 and No Quarter at 11+ minutes.

Generally, long songs don't do well on the radio, but sometimes they do.

I have an mp3 which I am almost sure has been mis-tagged. I really like it, and I know it's Dream Theater. It's more metallish, and only slightly prog. It's been named: "As I am" with the Album set to "Train of Thought".

The problem arose when I got a tab for it, but the tab clearly was nothing like the song. No trace of my mp3 was in this tab. So, I tried downloading it again. It was completely different; it was prog and drawn out.

If you have your guitar nearby, here's my best interpretation of the main riff in the song:
Tune to CADGBE (this is wrong, but it works)

[COLOR=DarkOrange][SIZE=1]PM|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|[/SIZE][/COLOR]
C|0-0-00-0-0-00000-0-0-00-0-0-00000------0-00-------0----
A|-------------------------------------2h4h5-----2h4h5-55h4
D|-----------------------------------------------------------

If this is not enough, I'll pass the mp3 around.

Any help will be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Either way, the As I Am main riff is not played like that.

Pm......
F----------8p7p5-8p7p5-8-7
C--0-0-0-0[/QUOTE]

"As I Am" the original is 7:47 long. The radio edit is like 7:21 I think.

My song is 3:34. That complicates things.

No, your tab sounds nothing like the real riff. If I played what you tabbed out, it would sound absolutely nothing like "As I Am"

Can you pick out any lyrics from the song?

It is fairly clipped at the end though. Sounds a bit rough for a studio cut.

[QUOTE=The JoZ]No, your tab sounds nothing like the real riff. If I played what you tabbed out, it would sound absolutely nothing like "As I Am"

Can you pick out any lyrics from the song?[/QUOTE]

Well, that was my first plan, but, I couldn't make out anything more than a few words here and there. Anyway, the notes definitely ascend in pitch, so your tab (with pulloffs) is not for the song I have.

It's probably not really them.

I'm almost positive it is. The vocals, drumming, the guitar- everything sounds like Dream theater. Can I send you the mp3?

Yeah, do it.

Thanks for your help btw.

I've added you to msn. Could you accept?

[QUOTE=the2stranger]^^

I agree, and
10 minute+ length does make a song radio unfriendly, there aren't many radiostations who will play that.

and they will make crappy radio-edits, who do no justice to the song :mad:

the radiochannel I listen to; arrow classic rock does play long (radio unfriendly songs),
they played the entire pink floyd 'echoes' song.
we need more radiostations like that :([/QUOTE]
The classic rock station in my area are still playing "pull me under".... And last week they played the whole pink floyd album "dark side of the moon". and another station sometimes plays "as i am", and I think the played some opeth yesterday. But thats off topic.

[QUOTE=Quebec]The classic rock station in my area are still playing "pull me under".... And last week they played the whole pink floyd album "dark side of the moon". and another station sometimes plays "as i am", and I think the played some opeth yesterday. But thats off topic.[/QUOTE]

That's a good radio station.

[QUOTE=Ripper22]That's a good radio station.[/QUOTE]
Only the classic rock station. The other one only plays mainstream **** except past 11:00pm....

I bought Train of Thought, I like it.

^^

good
it is an awesome cd indeed.
although many people don't like the 'heavy' DT

but I don't care, I like soft and heavy DT

I like it alot. I like the heaviness, there are some cool sounding riffs in my opinion.
Like As I Am, and Honor Thy Father is cool too. Haven't really been noticing what the song names are, just leaving the whole album on repeat with my iPod whilst I play games, but a few songs (Like the two mentioned) have grabbed my attention enough to check the name.
Also, the reason I bought the album, I have a 'fetish', if you will, for instrumental tracks :)
And Stream of Consciousness definately lived up to that, I like it alot!

****, i just finished downloading "the glass prison" looks like i'm gonna have to save up for some new cds. how did i not hear of dream theater earlier?

[QUOTE=Chu]
Also, the reason I bought the album, I have a 'fetish', if you will, for instrumental tracks :)
And Stream of Consciousness definately lived up to that, I like it alot![/QUOTE]
Check out "ytse jam", "Erotomania", "the dance of eternity" if you haven't. Obviously you should also check the Instrumedley on live at budokan. And if you have a "fetish" for instrumental tracks, you should already know about "liquid tension experiment".

[QUOTE=Quebec]Check out "ytse jam", "Erotomania", "the dance of eternity" if you haven't. Obviously you should also check the Instrumedley on live at budokan. And if you have a "fetish" for instrumental tracks, you should already know about "liquid tension experiment".[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, I've been looking for LTE albums around here, unfortunately, every store would rather stock Britney Spears etc. And I don't have a Credit Card (Nor do I live with my parents) so I can't buy the album/s. I might download some of their stuff sometime.

I really like Overture 1928 and Dance of Eternity though :)

The Budokan Instrumedly is amazing.

Ytse Jam and Dance of Eternity are good too...but I think Erotomania suffers a little. SoC is the best out of the four, IMO.

[quote]****, i just finished downloading "the glass prison" looks like i'm gonna have to save up for some new cds. how did i not hear of dream theater earlier?[/quote]

I hadn't heard of them till I started posting on here either...man, I am so glad I did, they have opened me up to new music, and new ideas when playing bass.

The Glass Prison was my first DT song too...wow, what a great song :cool:

[QUOTE=The JoZ]

The Glass Prison was my first DT song too...wow, what a great song :cool:[/QUOTE]
It was my first DT song too.... I remember I was blown away! Best DT song after ACOS!

*100th post in this thread*

Actually, I think TGP > ACOS.

Simply because Every second of TGP is great. ACOS has a few sections I don't really like. "Carpe Diem" for example...

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Actually, I think TGP > ACOS.

Simply because Every second of TGP is great. ACOS has a few sections I don't really like. "Carpe Diem" for example...[/QUOTE]
I hated this part untill I listened to Opeth. This band opened me to clean guitar... But TGP and ACOS are really close...

I mean, I really love sections I and II on ACOS, but III doesn't do it for me....

*shrug*

[QUOTE=The JoZ]I mean, I really love sections I and II on ACOS, but III doesn't do it for me....

[/QUOTE]

I respect your opinion, but I really think that ACOS is better than TGP, but that's just me. And Is TGP your fav DT song?