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drums4mtl 03-04-2005 05:37 PM

im going for the crucial unit/the blood brothers scream but i cant go that high, i can only do like senses fail screams like in 187

Merkaba 03-05-2005 01:45 AM

[QUOTE=himynameistweek]ok, i've been trying this, and it sounds like i might be on the right track, but it's kind of hurting, so i'm a little concerned. any ideas on what i might be doing wrong?
by the way, where are you from? there's a band called merkaba here...[/QUOTE]

Im from SC.

Merkaba is a very ancient meditation. There are a few bands that use the name....

dammit!

hehe.

It should hurt. at all. Vocalizing should be fun to you even when youre working. Be sure youre not squeezing your throat up. Remember to try to get the feel with minimal push. Way minimal when you first start off.

TheOneThatBleeds 03-13-2005 10:33 PM

wut other bands use vocal fry?

Sinai Beach 03-13-2005 11:05 PM

[QUOTE=drums4mtl]im going for the crucial unit/the blood brothers scream but i cant go that high, i can only do like senses fail screams like in 187[/QUOTE]
i think my lead singer can go that high listen to him [URL=www.myspace.com/videoonmute]www.myspace.com/videoonmute[/URL] and is how would you rate him merk

EchoingVoices 03-13-2005 11:07 PM

oh my... thats some crazy screaming... like... wow... lol, yeah he has it down i think

drums4mtl 03-16-2005 05:13 AM

grr, lol

bump

gjkung 03-16-2005 07:45 AM

silver, how do you do a scream like Shinedown? in that song Fly From the Inside

Merkaba 03-16-2005 11:47 AM

meh..... :upset:

Merkaba 03-16-2005 12:04 PM

Any newbies to this thread or forum i suggest you go back to more recent information maybe start around page 20 or something.

44caliber 03-26-2005 07:22 PM

ok man.... im still confused about the whole falsetto kind of singing... plz plz explain

Merkaba 03-27-2005 12:02 AM

Think Beegees , or The Darkness

Alustle 04-01-2005 05:55 AM

Hey merkaba1...awesome advice so far but do you think It would be wise for me to wait till my voice to completely develop into an adult before I start screaming again? I've been screaming since last november and as I get better at it I get worse at normal singing. There used to be just about nothing I couldn't sing. Then I thought I'd try screaming but it's messing up my throat.

JessJansen 04-01-2005 11:30 AM

I was just wondering if it matters the way u stand when u scream. somtimes i bedn over and i wasnt to sure if it was healthy or not.

Merkaba 04-02-2005 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=Alustle]Hey merkaba1...awesome advice so far but do you think It would be wise for me to wait till my voice to completely develop into an adult before I start screaming again? I've been screaming since last november and as I get better at it I get worse at normal singing. There used to be just about nothing I couldn't sing. Then I thought I'd try screaming but it's messing up my throat.[/QUOTE]
If youre using proper technique it shouldnt bother you because a scream when done correctly is just a big version of any other well produced note. Other than that I cant tell you if youre doing it correctly or not, or warming up or warming down or eating too much bullcrap or whatever the case may be. If your normal singing is deteriorating then youre obviously doing something terribly wrong. It might start to get lower as you age out of the teens but other than that age shouldnt cause any problems unless youre like 11 or 12 but even then when done properly you can gain strength. How old are you anyways?

Merkaba 04-02-2005 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=JessJansen]I was just wondering if it matters the way u stand when u scream. somtimes i bedn over and i wasnt to sure if it was healthy or not.[/QUOTE]
It can make a difference because youre not gonna be able to get good support if you bend over...at least not like you would if you were upright. But too upright and stiff can lead to tension as well. Bending over wont allow the diaphragm and lungs to expand to full capacity but if you know proper singing/screaming you can do it all day bent over but thats something that would come with time.

JessJansen 04-05-2005 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]It can make a difference because youre not gonna be able to get good support if you bend over...at least not like you would if you were upright. But too upright and stiff can lead to tension as well. Bending over wont allow the diaphragm and lungs to expand to full capacity but if you know proper singing/screaming you can do it all day bent over but thats something that would come with time.[/QUOTE]
ok thank you

JomJom 04-05-2005 02:27 PM

Hey, I've been practicing some screaming lately and I was wondering if you could help me out with something.

Dallas Taylor (old singer from underOATH, now sings in Maylene and the Sons of Disaster) pretty much inspired me to get into singing and screaming. I never actually caught on to how he does his scream though, it's so unique and unlike anything else out there. If possible, could you give me a technique to make that kind of scream?

Merkaba 04-06-2005 01:26 PM

Ok...will somebody post a sample of this goddam underoath scream. It cant be that **** special. All i hear about is underoath.

Go to the top of this forum to the jams session links and then go into voichelp hotline and realize what the vocal cords do. You have to first have strong cords and good technique. The cords can only make vowel sounds...everything else comes from your manipulating the sound after you have produced it well.

osirisblind 04-11-2005 09:21 PM

hey merkaba-1,
im surprised nobody's mentioned this, because i think this is one of the best/most unique screams ive ever heard.
stza from leftover crack.. he has an insane shredded, raspy voice that hurts my throat just listening to it but its so **** good..
please check out this link for the songs Born to Die and Heroin or Suicide.
both have really good screams especially in the last third or so.
please do a little review of his scream, im sure many punks on here would appreciate it.

Merkaba 04-12-2005 12:22 AM

In your excitement and fervor you forgot the link!

himynameistweek 04-12-2005 08:08 AM

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]Ok...will somebody post a sample of this goddam underoath scream. It cant be that **** special. All i hear about is underoath.

Go to the top of this forum to the jams session links and then go into voichelp hotline and realize what the vocal cords do. You have to first have strong cords and good technique. The cords can only make vowel sounds...everything else comes from your manipulating the sound after you have produced it well.[/QUOTE]
underoath is a great band, but the screamer isn't anything that special. i think a lot of people are asking about it because it sounds a little different than what's usually heard in emo-esque music, i.e. hawthorne heights. but, i can't get that sound either, so if there is some difference in the technique it would be nice to know. i'm at school right now, but when i get home i'll find a link if nobody else has.

harmonica_man 04-12-2005 08:39 AM

Someone said the same thing about the guitar when it first came out for music. I mean it was unheard of. How can you play music with it???? But look what happened...

osirisblind 04-12-2005 01:39 PM

sorry merkaba, suppose i did forget the link, my bad, haha here it is. PLEASE GIVE A REVIEW!
[url]www.purevolume.com/smashedtopieces[/url]

himynameistweek 04-12-2005 02:19 PM

ok, merkaba, here you go.
[url]http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3UTGQDM28SBVP1UENSH1TDUZAU[/url]

Merkaba 04-13-2005 11:51 PM

[QUOTE=osirisblind]sorry merkaba, suppose i did forget the link, my bad, haha here it is. PLEASE GIVE A REVIEW!
[url]www.purevolume.com/smashedtopieces[/url][/QUOTE]
the link is still wrong but i figured it out.

Nothing going on in leftover crack that I havent talked about. Rather typical...

Merkaba 04-14-2005 12:30 AM

Thanks tweak...
dude has a strong voice. But its no different than any other raspy scream...ala mudvayne, deftones, Finch, etc..

Peg Dizzler 04-14-2005 01:34 AM

We still need some sort of sticky thread, where the first post pretty much explains everything like it should be explained. :)

Iron_Weed 04-14-2005 01:49 AM

Hey does anyone no Tame by the Pixies? If you do then could you tell me what kinda screaming Frank Black is doing/ if he's doing the Kurt Cobain thing where he's not really screaming?

Peg Dizzler 04-14-2005 02:18 AM

*sigh*

JomJom 04-14-2005 03:34 PM

Hmm...whoever posted the underOATH song on here posted the new stuff. I was talking about the old singer, Dallas Taylor. Go to [URL=http://www.purevolume.com/underoath]http://www.purevolume.com/underoath[/URL] and listen to "When The Sun Sleeps". That's just a sample of his screaming, not one of their best songs. If you wanna be adventurous and listen to their amazing stuff, check out "The Changing of Times", "Short of Daybreak", "Never Meant To Break Your Heart", and lots of others...could you tell me any techniques to make this kind of scream? Or is it just a naturally strong voice?


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