[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Im not taking a stab at your opinions or anything like that, but there are two things i want to make comments about.

This first one isn't actually directly at you. Its starting to annoy me how people can't get past the fact that those accoustic medievil elements are now gone from Opeths music. They have taken a new direction, and that in itself should be applauded. They could have stuck to that same style,knowing that it would make the fans happy, but they decided to make a change and i wish people would just deal with it. [/quote]
I dig that. It usually does piss me off when fans whine about their bands changing styles and whatnot. I'm trying not to be one of them, but I DO miss the old acoustic style.
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And secondly, you (im sure it was you saying it, but i may be wrong) made a comment before about being dissapointed by the fact that there are many chugga-chugga, one chord riffs throughout GR, but you now comment on how The Grand Conjuration deserves more credit than it gets. Dont get me wrong, i love that song, but besides the asweomse intro, the first few minutes of that song is full of those easy, un-complicated riffs you are talking about. Granted, there is a cool solo, and some nice riffs throughout the middle, but for the last few minutes it again returns to those un-complicated riffs.
Like i said before, im not taking a stab, but i just wanted to point that out.[/QUOTE]
Nah, TGC isn't anything like the type of riff I was talking about. It doesn't even have any of that kind of riff in it. The weak points of TGC are the repetition (the main riff is cool, but it's repeated WAY too much) and the crap riff in the middle where he's going "whispered conjuration a belief takes form"...that's got to be the worst Opeth riff ever.

The type of riff I was talking about is present quite a bit in Harlequin Forest for example. I think it's the most prevalent in that song, but it shows up in all of the "regular" songs on GR.

Flynn: I do love Morningrise and Orchid (well not Orchid as much but Morningrise is definitely one of my favorites) and I really dig the dual harmonies, the aggressive technical bass playing and the acoustic styles on there, but at the same time I am glad Opeth have progressed. Unless they were to bring something very new to their old style, I don't think going back in time would be such a great idea.

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]I agree with Ghost Reveries isn't Opeth's best, although they do have some [i]HUGE[/i] highlights on it with Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds and The Grand Conjuration. I think it is sort of a transition album for Opeth, especially with the keyboards taking a more prominent role. At this point, they are either going to turn back to their shell and go back to their old sound, or try and refine their new one.

I hope they don't go back and try to attempt to release another Blackwater Park as their next album. I believe the new feel Opeth has gained has great potential, they just need a little work and revision on it. The next release from the Swedes should prove to be monstrous either way.[/QUOTE]

I agree. GOP and BOTH just sound so freakin' epic and progressive to me, while still being very heavy. The added drum presence with Lopez didn't hurt, either...this and Dam nation are IMO his best work yet. If I were to have any say on what Opeth does for the next record, I'd say to make it a little bit heavier. As a whole though, I like where their heads are...especially with some of the more experimental songs like Atonement

[QUOTE=Jude]I dig that. It usually does piss me off when fans whine about their bands changing styles and whatnot. I'm trying not to be one of them, but I DO miss the old acoustic style.

Nah, TGC isn't anything like the type of riff I was talking about. It doesn't even have any of that kind of riff in it. The weak points of TGC are the repetition (the main riff is cool, but it's repeated WAY too much) and the crap riff in the middle where he's going "whispered conjuration a belief takes form"...that's got to be the worst Opeth riff ever.

The type of riff I was talking about is present quite a bit in Harlequin Forest for example. I think it's the most prevalent in that song, but it shows up in all of the "regular" songs on GR.[/QUOTE]


Oh okay then, i misunderstood what you meant. Yeah that main riff definatley is repeated too much. Thats the kinda thing i thought you were talking about. Oh well, me is very tired today. :p

Any of you guys hear the bonus track off of Morningrise ? Eternal Soul Torture.

Yep,and i don't like it too much.

[QUOTE=vashts80]TGC on the album is horrible. TGC live is amazing, however, just because of the atmosphere it creates.[/QUOTE]

I think the opposite is true, live the song loses a lot of atmosphere, and gets boring after the main riff repeats for the hundredth time.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Any of you guys hear the bonus track off of Morningrise ? Eternal Soul Torture.[/QUOTE]

That song is really great, actually. I think it's one of Opeth's heaviest songs ever.

Meh, the quality is horrible. I read that the band broke the song apart and used peices of it in other songs. Example: that riff from "In Mist She Was Standing. the acoustic one.

Im realy liking The Night And The Silent Water.

I also read that, Black Rose Immortal was supposed to be in Orchid.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Meh, the quality is horrible. I read that the band broke the song apart and used peices of it in other songs. Example: that riff from "In Mist She Was Standing. the acoustic one.

Im realy liking The Night And The Silent Water.

I also read that, Black Rose Immortal was supposed to be in Orchid.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, im pretty sure some of the riffs in that song are used in Advent.

[QUOTE=PeEpHoLe_10]Yeah, im pretty sure some of the riffs in that song are used in Advent.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Akerfeldt mentioned that.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]Any of you guys hear the bonus track off of Morningrise ? Eternal Soul Torture.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and I deleted it because it sickened me.

Srry if this is doing somthing wrong lol, but yah, as some of you knwo, my Ipod was just completly deleted and im trying to replace all of my music and I had just about all of Opeths stuff on there, so if anyone could please send me any albums over MSN id really appreciate it, my Email is [email]id_rather-not@hotmail.com[/email] so just add me to msn/email me. and MODs if there is anything wrong with tihs post then go ahead and delete it id understand completly. but ya, im not just trying to get free music here I just want my music back lol. so srry if this was a stupid post

You know, there are better ways to get music than from people on MSN.

People say GR is straying away from the 'medieval' acoustics... I personally think it's a return to them. Ghost of Perdition, The Baying of the Hounds (the instrumental acoustic bit... drool), The Grand Conjuration (how does that acoustic guitar not sound folky, evil and medieval to anyone?) and Hours of Wealth have extremely medieval/folk acoustics, for me at least.

Damnation... sounds so clean, ugly and british. Not medieval at all. It's pretty good still, but if you want to complain about 'non-medieval acoustics', listen to that.

[QUOTE=Werny]People say GR is straying away from the 'medieval' acoustics... I personally think it's a return to them. Ghost of Perdition, The Baying of the Hounds (the instrumental acoustic bit... drool), The Grand Conjuration (how does that acoustic guitar not sound folky, evil and medieval to anyone?) and Hours of Wealth have extremely medieval/folk acoustics, for me at least.

Damnation... sounds so clean, ugly and british. Not medieval at all. It's pretty good still, but if you want to complain about 'non-medieval acoustics', listen to that.[/QUOTE]

Damnation > GR

GR is just not that good.. End\

Damnation is great all the way though.... Though I think Blackwater Park is the best from Opeth...

[QUOTE=Jude]
the crap riff in the middle where he's going "whispered conjuration a belief takes form"...that's got to be the worst Opeth riff ever. [/quote] No way! That riff rules!!! Not to mention, Mikael's growls are absolutely :evil: there. I disagree completely.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]No way! That riff rules!!! Not to mention, Mikael's growls are absolutely :evil: there. I disagree completely.[/QUOTE]
That riff makes me sick. It's completely cheesy, contrived and uninteresting :confused: The main riff is really cool, but they just repeated it way too much. That song could have been about 6 minutes long and been a lot better.

The other coolest part is when the guitars drop out and there's a few soft keyboard notes and then all of a sudden this super-fast part pops out of nowhere and Mikael's going nuts with a growl over it.

[QUOTE=Werny]People say GR is straying away from the 'medieval' acoustics... I personally think it's a return to them. Ghost of Perdition, The Baying of the Hounds (the instrumental acoustic bit... drool), The Grand Conjuration (how does that acoustic guitar not sound folky, evil and medieval to anyone?) and Hours of Wealth have extremely medieval/folk acoustics, for me at least.

[B]Damnation... sounds so clean, ugly and british. Not medieval at all.[/B] It's pretty good still, but if you want to complain about 'non-medieval acoustics', listen to that.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with your entire post. GR is far better than Damnation, and far more "medieval", as you say. Even The Grand Conjuration has that bit of acoustic during the verse.

I love that riff in TGC too. It's simple, but it sounds really evil to me, especially with the growling and double bass triplets.

[QUOTE=Werny]Damnation... sounds so clean, ugly and british. Not medieval at all. It's pretty good still, but if you want to complain about 'non-medieval acoustics', listen to that.[/QUOTE]

Why should it sound medieval? I think it's fine the way it is.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Why should it sound medieval? I think it's fine the way it is.[/QUOTE]

He wasn't saying they should sound medieval

I find it hard to compare one Opeth album to another...they have a tendency to sound pretty different from the last. GR was a step in a new direction for Opeth, though; which is nice because it's better to not to so well in an area you're new to rather than release the same album over and over.

Personal favorites, especially with the diversity of Opeth, will change a lot. I must say my favorite songs by them are Windowpane, By the Pain I See In Others, and The Grand Conjuration. Each one is superb, and different from the last.

I also don't get why people go on about Opeth acoustic parts being "medieval." I mean, I do kind of get a medieval-y vibe from Opeth music, but it's not like there's anything "medieval" about the guitar style, whatsoever.

[QUOTE=Jude]I also don't get why people go on about Opeth acoustic parts being "medieval." I mean, I do kind of get a medieval-y vibe from Opeth music, but it's not like there's anything "medieval" about the guitar style, whatsoever.[/QUOTE]

Because flamenco gives off a medieval styled folky vibe because its the most classic style of guitar playing (I think...), and for the most part, most kiddies now days think for the most part that it's a dead style and so they only hear it in things related to the dark/middle/rennaissance ages.

More Opeth dates announced.



[size=3] They come here March 8th :D [/size]

Doesn't look like they'll make another South Florida stop.

Damn.

Ah damn there going to Quebec city, and no montreal dates are anounced yet...Thats a 2 hour drive...

More to be announced, so you may be in luck. It seems like they're going to cover Kana-duh pretty well.

I hope im in luck...but i doubt they wont come in Montreal. When a band comes to Canada, they pretty much always stop by here.

Why did you change your Username ?

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Because flamenco gives off a medieval styled folky vibe because its the most classic style of guitar playing (I think...), and for the most part, most kiddies now days think for the most part that it's a dead style and so they only hear it in things related to the dark/middle/rennaissance ages.[/QUOTE]

Except in Power Metal, Folk Metal, and even some Black Metal. I love classical guitar, it's beautiful.

I wonder if they've ever come to Tennessee? That would be sweet.

[QUOTE=Stormrider331]I hope im in luck...but i doubt they wont come in Montreal. When a band comes to Canada, they pretty much always stop by here.

Why did you change your Username ?[/QUOTE]
A better question is why not. It's snappier and easier to quote.

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]I wonder if they've ever come to Tennessee? That would be sweet.[/QUOTE]

I hope they come to Las Vegas!!!

[QUOTE=Deth]A better question is why not. It's snappier and easier to quote.[/QUOTE]

Yeah i suppose. I thought of taking out the 331 in my username...and decided there was no point in doing that. I have no ides why i put them there though.

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Because flamenco gives off a medieval styled folky vibe because its the most classic style of guitar playing (I think...), and for the most part, most kiddies now days think for the most part that it's a dead style and so they only hear it in things related to the dark/middle/rennaissance ages.[/QUOTE]

Flamenco? What are you talking about? There's no Flamenco in Opeth, I think you're thinking of something completely different...

[QUOTE=Deth]More to be announced, so you may be in luck. It seems like they're going to cover Kana-duh pretty well.[/QUOTE]
As they should, were the better North American country.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]As they should, were the better North American country.[/QUOTE]
*Indifferent*

Canadians are ghey!

To all the Canadians out there...

Aboot.




Discuss.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]As they should, were the better North American country.[/QUOTE]

Quoted for undeniable truth.

Sadly, I think the show near me might be at a nightclub.. I might not be able to get in. What's the age restriction regarding nightclubs?

[QUOTE=FuryInArt]To all the Canadians out there...

Aboot.




Discuss.[/QUOTE]

Pfft, go watch some Nascar.

[QUOTE=toaster135]What's the age restriction regarding nightclubs?[/QUOTE]

Most likely 21, I'd invest in a fake ID if I were you.

[QUOTE=toaster135]Quoted for undeniable truth.

Sadly, I think the show near me might be at a nightclub.. I might not be able to get in. What's the age restriction regarding nightclubs?[/QUOTE]

In America - 18