[QUOTE=cbmartinez]Do you like The Loved Ones?[/QUOTE]

They are pretty good, I am now listening to the song they have on purevolume.

Yeah, I just listened to 2 of their songs and I like them. It's different, and has a more of a rock n roll feel.

do have any Voice in the Wire stuff on soulseek New?

No, i've only heard about 4 songs and I don't think they're in my Soulseek files.

ah darn

Blacklisted and Donnybrook an April.

This keeps getting better and better. Now hopefully my mom won't ground me for nearly failing Brit Lit.

Blacklisted is touring with Donnybrook? Because I read Donnybrook is playing here in April but it didn't say who with.

I guess so, the show is at Bloomfield Ave.

Blacklisted might just be playing cause it's a local-ish show or something.

[QUOTE=fat_****103]They are pretty good, I am now listening to the song they have on purevolume.[/QUOTE]
[quote=NewKindOfArmy03]I still haven't given them a good listen, but I somewhat like the stuff i've heard. Everything in that family of bands(lifetime, kid dynamite, paint it black, etc.) is amazing though. I've also read reviews for their EP and they've all been really good. I'll go listen to them more now. They're playing the Strike Anywhere show too.[/quote]

I saw them play. They didn't do much for me.

Shane and torn: Long Beach isn't that bad guys, c'mon. LA is way worse for the most part, especially if we're talking about like where Studio S is in North Hollywood.

Chris: Its called 1859, and it's been out. I know they're selling them over their myspace if you send them a message, they have $6 shirts too.

Oh no...

7 Seconds and Merauder / The Risk Taken / Hoods

... ON THE SAME NIGHT!!!! :upset:

I'm skipping the second night of Facedown Fest for Down To Nothing. The only band worth seeing that night is Hit The Deck anyways, and I can see them in June.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Shane and torn: Long Beach isn't that bad guys, c'mon. LA is way worse for the most part, especially if we're talking about like where Studio S is in North Hollywood. [/QUOTE]Nah man, Long Beach is overlooked in a way, so it's worse in my eyes. I wouldn't be caught dead in Signal Hill unless I had some big burly black man with me.

[QUOTE=shane italian]This man speaks the truth, Scott. In a way I would rather be in downtown LA than Long Beach.[/QUOTE]

My car got broke into when I went to a show there once.

Clearing Autumn Skies? any one like or heard of em or anything?

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Oh no...

7 Seconds and Merauder / The Risk Taken / Hoods

... ON THE SAME NIGHT!!!! :upset:[/QUOTE]


Definitely go to 7 Seconds/Champion. 7 Seconds has been around for so long--they could break up any day, and you would regret not seeing them (if you haven't).

The Risk Taken is badass, but I only have two of their songs.

Which Glassjaw album(s) should I check out?

If you'd like an easier, approachable, accessable album, go with [I]Everything Thing You Ever Wanted To Know About Silence[/I]. You want a fantastic mix of chaos and beauty that takes a bit longer to comprehend, go with [I]Worship And Tribute[/I].

Word.

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]Shane and torn: Long Beach isn't that bad guys, c'mon. LA is way worse for the most part, especially if we're talking about like where Studio S is in North Hollywood.

Chris: Its called 1859, and it's been out. I know they're selling them over their myspace if you send them a message, they have $6 shirts too.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhh. In AP, they had it under releases for February. Maybe their just re-releasing it.

[QUOTE=shane italian]**Decided to bring this into the Punk Forum. If it turns into a spam/agrument thread then close it as soon as possible. It's meant for education and actual discussion.


This is for those of you who throw around the the phrase hardcore far too often.

Metalcore is often mistaken for Hardcore on these boards. Here's the difference.

[b]Hardcore[/b] is punk influenced music that sometimes has a heavier sound and sometime's doesn't. It sometimes have breakdowns and some don't, this depends more on the age of the band. Some are straight edge, some aren't. But most have honest sincere lyrics about issues that they themselves face.

[b]Metalcore[/b] is obviously metal influenced and because they're of this there is more complexity in the writings of guitar, more noted riffs added to it than hardcore has.. Some say that it has punk influences...but that depends on what band you are talking about. Metalcore has a lot of breakdowns, most of which have the "JUN JUN JUN" sound which some double bass. Metalcore was a lot better a couple years ago before more and more band's started learning that you can tune into drop-C, use only thin picks, and get a drummer who knows his double bass.

[b]Hardcore bands:[/b]
Blood For Blood, Chain Of Strength, American Nightmare, Death Threat, Judge, Gorilla Biscuits, 7 Seconds, Champion, Count Me Out, Carry On, Terror

[b]Metalcore bands:[/b]
Hatebreed, 100 Demons, Bury Your Dead, Black My Heart, On Broken Wings, Hoods, North Side Kings, Walls Of Jericho, Clenched Fist

[i][B]MORE BY SK8SKANJ[/B][/i]

[b]Grindcore[/b] in its purest form consisted of short, apocalyptic blasts of noise played on standard heavy metal instrumentation (distorted guitar, bass, drums). Although grindcore wasn't just randomly improvised, it certainly didn't follow conventional structure, either; while riffs could sometimes be picked out, pure grindcore never featured verses, choruses, or even melodies. Grindcore vocals sounded torturous, ranging from high-pitched shrieks to low, throat-shredding growls and barks; although the lyrics were usually quite verbose, they were very rarely intelligible. Some bands in this catagory can also be known as Mathcore or Tech Metal, meaning they're more complex in the musical writings and tend to be more organized.

[b]Grindcore bands:[/b]
Napalm Death, Dillinger Escape Plan, Death, Carcass, The Locust, The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravaganza, **** and Ball Torture, Pig Destroyer, Agoraphobic Nosebleed...

[b]Emo[/b] style has become broader over the years. In the beginning, these bands consisted mostly of people who played in hardcore punk bands, got burned out its limited forms, and moved to a guitar-oriented, midtempo rock-based sound with emotional punk vocals (i.e., no posed soulful crooning like pop music). The central aspect here is the guitars - distorted, strummed mostly in duo unison, with occasional catchy riff highlights. This becomes known as the classic "D.C. sound," along with the octave chords that show up in later "emo" music. Later bands bring in more pop elements, like catchy-riff based songs, pop song structures (listen to Jawbreaker's "Chesterfield King" to illustrate this), and less-punk, more-smoothly-sung high-register singing (less yelling, straining, throatiness). Listen to Elliot or Chamberlain for an example of how alternative-pop this music has become. Yet those bands are undeniably still emocore. Also note most emo bands play Gibson Les Paul guitars, with a few SGs, and use mostly Marshall JCM-800 amps...Emo has recently evolved into something more complex since the D.C. era. Bands have adopted to more obscure lyrics along with intricate riffs and interesting vocals.

[b]Emo bands:[/b]
Rites of Spring, Embrace, Gray Matter, Ignition, Dag Nasty, Monsula, Fugazi kind of, Fuel, Samiam, Jawbreaker, Hot Water Music, Elliot, Friction, Soulside, early Lifetime, Split Lip/Chamberlain, Kerosene 454

[b]Post-Hardcore[/b]
In the early-to-mid '80s, several bands in the United States came to life that were inspired by the do-it-yourself ethics and the cathartic, guitar-heavy material characterized by the hardcore punk bands that predated them. These newer bands, termed post-hardcore, often found complex and dynamic ways of blowing off steam that generally went outside the strict hardcore realm of "loud fast rules." These bands often used more than three chords and they also creatively built and released tension rather than airing their dirty laundry in short, sharp, frenetic bursts. Additionally, many of these bands' vocalists were just as likely to deliver their lyrics with a whispered croon as they were a maniacal yelp. Along with Husker Du, Naked Raygun was one of the first U.S. post-punk bands of the early '80s that merged melodic influences with punk/hardcore. These were the first two bands (Husker and Naked Raygun) in 1981. With other bands in the Chicago scene such as the Effigies, Breaking Circus and Man Sized Action followed by later bands such as Fugazi, Quicksand, Dag Nasty and Mission Of Burma. Another important influence on many of these bands was U.K. post-punk from the late '70s and early '80s; Gang of Four, Public Image Limited, Joy Division, and Wire played a significant role in many of the bands' musical growth.[/QUOTE]
death are deathmetal not grindcore

They could fit into either genre.

Death metal and grindcore are da[b][i][/b][/i]mn near twins.

[url]http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/16880/[/url] if you like me and also Thrice songs.

PS I'm seeing PsyOpus and Acacia Strain April 2nd.

sweet.

[QUOTE=punkerx99]Definitely go to 7 Seconds/Champion. 7 Seconds has been around for so long--they could break up any day, and you would regret not seeing them (if you haven't).

The Risk Taken is badass, but I only have two of their songs.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, after some thought, I think I'm going to go with 7 Seconds. I could never really get into Merauder and Hoods don't really do anything for me either. The only band I really care about is TRT. Funny though, this will be my 3rd time I get screwed out of seeing them, but I guess it's ok for 7 Seconds.

...Champion isn't on the 7S tour, are they???

[QUOTE=AndreTheHyena]Which Glassjaw album(s) should I check out?[/QUOTE]

Waddup dog? [I]Worship and Tribute[/I].

[QUOTE=40 oz 2 freedom]Waddup dog? [I]Worship and Tribute[/I].[/QUOTE]

Sup broham. Downloadin' as we speak.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]

PS I'm seeing PsyOpus and Acacia Strain April 2nd.[/QUOTE]
PsyOpus are really good live, their guitarist pulls everything off perfectly. When I saw them, 3/4 of the kids left after the big local bands and there were only 30 people watching them.

I think I'm going to With Honor tomorrow, and going to leave before Madball/Agnostic Front.

[QUOTE=NewKindofArmy03]PsyOpus are really good live, their guitarist pulls everything off perfectly. When I saw them, 3/4 of the kids left after the big local bands and there were only 30 people watching them.[/QUOTE]
Too bad I missed BTBAM. That would have been flawless.