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karmapavementplan 01-13-2010 05:03 AM

[quote=whitesquares;17751470]also:

Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq5-6pkvgcg[/quote]

wtf!??

BenJammin 01-13-2010 07:04 AM

[QUOTE=whitesquares;17751468]God, Raayl is such a douche bag. :lol:

He'd be cooler if he wasn't so up on himself.[/QUOTE]

Nah, Liam's pretty cool.

Az_Holl 01-13-2010 07:11 AM

Im pretty cool...











...just kidding

gaslight 01-13-2010 07:35 AM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17751430]It's just a very simple passive mixer, so I'll be using it as a 4-in, 1-out. Each of the inputs will correspond to one of my basses. All of the levels on the mixer will be set so that each channel has a similar volume. This way, I can just pick up a bass, flip the killswitch "off" on the bass, and have at it. It's sort of my take on an A/B pedal for more than two basses.

All that's left to do from there is install the kill switches in a few of my basses and I'm good to go.

Although it'll be some time in the future before I'm able to afford the parts, I'll be gigging a modified Spector 6, a modified Schecter 6, and a defretted Brice 6. I'm so excited to gig a fretless 6-string.[/QUOTE]

Cool man, that'll definitely lessen the hassle of gigging three basses. I saw a Leem 4 line mixer at the music store the other day, no bigger than a packet of cigarettes. Seemed very basic but quite handy for a little thing.

funkyhoney 01-13-2010 07:36 AM

Ergh, I feel like a cigarette. I regret ever starting. Better yet, I regret ever starting this shithole ****ing job :)

fatbandit 01-13-2010 08:02 AM

These Arms Are Snakes split up :( I'm so so gutted. One of the best live bands I've ever seen, and Brian Cook is just not as good in Russian Circles D:

FunkMetalBass 01-13-2010 08:27 AM

[quote=gaslight;17751642]Cool man, that'll definitely lessen the hassle of gigging three basses. I saw a Leem 4 line mixer at the music store the other day, no bigger than a packet of cigarettes. Seemed very basic but quite handy for a little thing.[/quote]

Yep. This one is a little bigger, but still about the size of an average Boss or Digitech single-effect pedal.

Next on the list of things to get for the pedal board would be two more cheap wireless systems so that I don't have to deal with cords.

Oh to dream.

fatbandit 01-13-2010 11:43 AM

Not dealing with leads does mean dealing with batteries, however. I'm not sure I'd enjoy having to troubleshoot two wireless systems in one rig, though I did toy with the idea!

Why are you installing killswitches anyway? Don't you have volume knobs?

FunkMetalBass 01-13-2010 12:00 PM

[quote=fatbandit;17751903]Not dealing with leads does mean dealing with batteries, however. I'm not sure I'd enjoy having to troubleshoot two wireless systems in one rig, though I did toy with the idea!

Why are you installing killswitches anyway? Don't you have volume knobs?[/quote]

That's a good point. I hadn't considered it. It might just be a matter of buying re-chargeable batteries for the wireless systems - and I'm ok with that. At the very least, I'd like to keep only one bass with a cable so as not to get them tangled.

Yes, but killswitches also break the circuit by re-directing one of the leads to the ground. You can leave a bass plugged in without draining that precious battery power (since all of my basses have some form of active circuitry).

Spaceman Spiff 01-13-2010 12:02 PM

I need some velcro. I have a board and a bunch of pedals, I just need to attach them. Then I can finally stop worrying about setting up every time.

FunkMetalBass 01-13-2010 12:07 PM

[quote=Spaceman Spiff;17751920]I need some velcro. I have a board and a bunch of pedals, I just need to attach them. Then I can finally stop worrying about setting up every time.[/quote]

Walmart has 15 feet of industrial strength velcro for ~$20. That's what I use.

Spaceman Spiff 01-13-2010 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17751925]Walmart has 15 feet of industrial strength velcro for ~$20. That's what I use.[/QUOTE]

Sweet. That'll be more than enough velcro. I've been wondering where to get some.

FunkMetalBass 01-13-2010 12:24 PM

[quote=Spaceman Spiff;17751934]Sweet. That'll be more than enough velcro. I've been wondering where to get some.[/quote]

They also carry 5-foot sections for ~$7.

I need to steal a pallet from work and use it to build a new pedal board.

Spaceman Spiff 01-13-2010 12:35 PM

My board is a piece of wood that looks like it was once part of a desk or a shelf. It fits all the pedals I currently have and has room for a few more. There are a couple more pedals I want and I'll be set.

The only thing I'll have left is to upgrade my amp to something most gangster. My amp is pretty good, couldn't hurt to have something better.

FunkMetalBass 01-13-2010 01:02 PM

I want to model mine after this board:

[img]http://i47.tinypic.com/2505mom.jpg[/img]

I want to build it with slats and elevate it so that I can keep it small and tight by running the cables underneath the slats. I'd also like to angle mine slightly.

:amaze: 01-13-2010 01:16 PM

http://www.bestbassgear.com/tech-21-vt-bass.htm

just got one of these for myself as a late x-mas present. It sounds really really good. Can't wait to use it when my band starts recording this weekend.

whitesquares 01-13-2010 01:44 PM

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17751617]Nah, Liam's pretty cool.[/QUOTE]

Nah, I don't think so, but agree to disagree. It IS just the internet.

Also, my parents almost named me Liam. IZN'T DAT VEIRD?

FunkMetalBass 01-13-2010 02:42 PM

I think there are four trains of thought for most bassists when it comes to optimizing tone.

1) Instruments. These bassists will have an arsenal of basses, thinking that each of them possesses a special tonal quality or characteristic, swapping each of these out as they see fit for the music. Amp and effects setup are usually quite minimal.

2) Amplifiers. These bassists will generally have an array of heads and cabinets and will use different line selects to switch between them as they see fit for the music because each combination has a specific tonal characteristic. Basses and effects aren't usually an issue with them and many will only have a few (usually identical) for different tunings. Johnny April of Staind comes to mind.

3) Effects. These bassists aren't usually as concerned with amp or bass collection as they are having 30 pedals in front of them, even keeping multiples of pedal types (3 or 4 types of distortion) so that they can easily switch between the tonal characteristics to suit the music. Justin Chancellor of Tool comes to mind.

4) Purists. These bassists have an amp, a bass, and not much else. They think that every bit of tone comes from your playing, and that the bass and amp are just a means of relaying it. These purists are also usually session or cover-band bassists that claim to hear the difference in two identical Fender basses because one has a pickup with an extra centimeter of coil winding.

Epidemechanical 01-13-2010 02:46 PM

[QUOTE=whitesquares;17751468]God, Raayl is such a douche bag. :lol:

He'd be cooler if he wasn't so up on himself.[/QUOTE]

wtf are you talking about

ya im "up on myself" (whatever that means) for thinking kids who cant make music shouldnt be credible when it comes to making music

just like

im up on myself cuz i take my car to a mechanic instead of the 16 year old kid next door who never leaves his xbox

FunkMetalBass 01-13-2010 02:48 PM

[quote=Raayl;17752184]im up on myself cuz i take my car to a mechanic instead of the 16 year old kid next door who never leaves his xbox[/quote]

Oshi.

I'm up on myself too. :upset:

Epidemechanical 01-13-2010 02:50 PM

im sure he has lots of great opinions on how to give my 71 442 more horsepower

too bad his opinion is dogsh[SIZE="2"]i[/SIZE]t cause he doesnt even know what a carburetor is

FunkMetalBass 01-13-2010 02:54 PM

[quote=Raayl;17752194]im sure he has lots of great opinions on how to give my 71 442 more horsepower

too bad his opinion is dogsh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t cause he doesnt even know what a carburetor is[/quote]

Carburetors are a thing of the past, man. Get with the times like that XBox kid.

Epidemechanical 01-13-2010 02:56 PM

hey man

quit being so up on yourself

you dont have to be a mechanic to fix cars

just like

you dont gotta be a musician to be a critic

FunkMetalBass 01-13-2010 03:00 PM

Raayl needs a shovel.

[url]http://theoatmeal.com/comics/shovel[/url]

whitesquares 01-13-2010 03:13 PM

[QUOTE=Raayl;17752184]wtf are you talking about

ya im "up on myself" (whatever that means) for thinking kids who cant make music shouldnt be credible when it comes to making music

just like

im up on myself cuz i take my car to a mechanic instead of the 16 year old kid next door who never leaves his xbox[/QUOTE]


Awful analogy that falls short on many counts.

I'm not wasting my time arguing with you, though. Keep your internet superiority. I don't care. You win. I bow down.

funkyhoney 01-13-2010 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17752206]Carburetors are a thing of the past, man. Get with the times like that XBox kid.[/QUOTE]

A lot of bikes still used them up until very recently because we didn't have the technology to make injectors that small. And considering a lot of developing countries use like 90% bikes for motorised transport and they'd no doubt mostly be built before the 21st century I'd say that a lot of carburettors are still in use and still perfectly valid as a means of mixing fuel and air.

Epidemechanical 01-13-2010 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=whitesquares;17752244]Awful analogy that falls short on many counts.

I'm not wasting my time arguing with you, though. Keep your internet superiority. I don't care. You win. I bow down.[/QUOTE]

was it really awful? it made you realize you were being dumb and it got you to stop posting about it

id say success was success

funkyhoney 01-13-2010 09:34 PM

So I think I was massively overpaid, awesome.

FunkMetalBass 01-14-2010 12:22 AM

[quote=funkyhoney;17752825]A lot of bikes still used them up until very recently because we didn't have the technology to make injectors that small. And considering a lot of developing countries use like 90% bikes for motorised transport and they'd no doubt mostly be built before the 21st century I'd say that a lot of carburettors are still in use and still perfectly valid as a means of mixing fuel and air.[/quote]

Those aren't real countries like America.

gaslight 01-14-2010 12:27 AM

You ain't a real country till you've dropped the bomb.

FunkMetalBass 01-14-2010 09:18 AM

[quote=gaslight;17753261]You ain't a real country till you've dropped the bomb.[/quote]

F**K

I dropped a F-bomb.

Now I'm my own country. My first plan of action is to annex the MX Bass Forum.

To further justify my mixer and 3 basses on stage, the two guitarists and I have decided to do a cover of Big Bottom, and modify the lyrics slightly to dedicate the song to our big-bottom'd vocalist. Even better, we're going to have practices without her and bust it out on stage randomly at one of our shows.

Spaceman Spiff 01-14-2010 12:10 PM

It seems that the old crew is gone, they're not making Spider-Man 4, but they are going to reboot the series with new writers, actors, etc.

I love Sam Raimi for giving us the Evil Dead trilogy, but these Spider-Man movies have been garbage. I hope it doesn't get screwed up again.

FunkMetalBass 01-14-2010 02:08 PM

To make my life more complicated, I've decided to build my pedalboard with two tiers that separate via latches. The top tier will contain only the wireless unit, mixer, and EQ pedal. The bottom tier will contain all other effects. That way, depending on necessity, I can choose to bring all of my effects or just the bare essentials to the gig.

Convectuoso 01-14-2010 02:46 PM

That's probably a good idea. Your top tier can be set and forget type units, while the bottom and more convenient to your feet will be all the pedals you actually turn on and off.

FunkMetalBass 01-14-2010 03:33 PM

[quote=Joelbassman;17754063]That's probably a good idea. Your top tier can be set and forget type units, while the bottom and more convenient to your feet will be all the pedals you actually turn on and off.[/quote]

Exactly. With the exception of the EQ pedal, everything on top is an always-on piece.

Also, if this design pans out like I'm hoping it does, I'll put up plans and material costs for anybody interested.

fatbandit 01-14-2010 03:59 PM

While we're on about pedals, here's my latest incarnation:

[img]http://i49.tinypic.com/1z6e5gh.jpg[/img]

gaslight 01-14-2010 04:01 PM

While we're all in a DIY mood, I've been drawing up concepts for a custom gig bag I want to have made. Just not sure who to actually take it to to have it made when it's all ready to go, I'm thinking a tailor or a luggage maker or something. Going to cost a pretty penny I imagine but it'll be worth it to have a good gig bag for once.

FunkMetalBass 01-14-2010 05:51 PM

[quote=fatbandit;17754234]While we're on about pedals, here's my latest incarnation:

[IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/1z6e5gh.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Pretty sexy, not gonna lie. I like the compactness of it all too. Mine will probably be a little more shallow, but wider.

FunkMetalBass 01-14-2010 06:14 PM

[quote=gaslight;17754240]While we're all in a DIY mood, I've been drawing up concepts for a custom gig bag I want to have made. Just not sure who to actually take it to to have it made when it's all ready to go, I'm thinking a tailor or a luggage maker or something. Going to cost a pretty penny I imagine but it'll be worth it to have a good gig bag for once.[/quote]

There are tons of really good gig bag companies - just check out TB. Body glove makes a really solid gig bag for about $100. I don't know that it would be cost-effective to have one made unless you were looking for something flashy or absolutely needed an extra inch of cargo space that nobody else offers.

fatbandit 01-14-2010 06:15 PM

It's a huge step in downsizing from my old board, if you remember it. Initially I was just gonna downsize to the wireless, M9 and an expression pedal, but it's expanded a bit.

I've also done the measuring, and I reckon by swapping the DT-10 out for a Sonic Research Turbo Tuner, I'll have enough space on there for one more MXR sized pedal. So I'm going to find something which just makes a godawful racket and buy it.


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