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Futuro 06-22-2005 04:07 PM

matter already has a stinkfist recorded i thought

Dude3 06-22-2005 04:22 PM

See ya guys. I'm going to leave for Judas Priest now. I might do a review of the concert tomorrow.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-22-2005 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]matter already has a stinkfist recorded i thought[/QUOTE]

Nope. That's for you to do. :D

Moses- Ok, either one would be great. You should probably finish 46&2 just so we have something done. :-/ Things should start picking up for Stinkfist. Iv'e spoken with Teh JoZ0rz and he said he would redo Stinkfist, and Marshall will hopefully have the drummies up sometime soon. (I hope, at least. :p)

Futuro 06-22-2005 04:53 PM

so am i playing to your track jake (which by the way was very good :) )

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-22-2005 04:58 PM

Yes/Thanks. :)

Did you hear all the troubles I had recording that track? :p

First, I learned it, then, that day I recorded it good, but I used too much flange. Then I tried recording again, but I got interrupted by my mom. Tried again, got interrupted by my dad. Then, the next day I recorded it almost flawlessly, but I forgot to save it. (lol) I was wicked pissed by that point, so I decided, w/e I'm just gonna record this one more time, and if it's not good, I give up.

Luckily, I got it well enough. :p There is one section that is a bit muddy due to the flange, but it should be fine once there are drums/bass/vox.

Futuro 06-22-2005 05:34 PM

ill jam to it today ...im thinking about doing a multi track with a djembe...would that be cool??

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-22-2005 05:41 PM

A...djembe?? What the hell is a djembe?

Oh, and also, do you have any ideas for the electronic drum intro? I beleive that Ben has been working with Fruity Loops trying to figure something out. I also toyed with it for about 5 minutes 2 nights ago, but I gave up, due to my lack of skill in the area of Fruity Loops. :p

Futuro 06-22-2005 05:48 PM

african percussion instrument

i had an idea to day also....im gonna take roto toms and tune them to D,A,D and play all the open chords adam plays on drums :p ..(not for the recording ...just for fun) :)

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 05:59 PM

me and my friend did 46&2 and its not that bad but i dont no how to record

Futuro 06-22-2005 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=Doomed To Crumble]me and my friend did 46&2 and its not that bad but i dont no how to record[/QUOTE]can you play the solo? :confused:

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 06:22 PM

i can play it but its not nearly as tightly played as dannys

Futuro 06-22-2005 06:24 PM

that is still very impressive for 2 years. you should do the next drum off.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-22-2005 06:26 PM

How long have you been playing teh drummieZ Marshall?

I've played geetar for a year.

Futuro 06-22-2005 06:31 PM

close to four so ill say that..... i have been playing guitar longer than you but am no where as good :upset:

denboy 06-22-2005 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]african percussion instrument

i had an idea to day also....im gonna take roto toms and tune them to D,A,D and play all the open chords adam plays on drums :p ..(not for the recording ...just for fun) :)[/QUOTE]


Record it! I'd love to hear how that sounds

Moses 06-22-2005 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Yes/Thanks. :)

Did you hear all the troubles I had recording that track? :p

First, I learned it, then, that day I recorded it good, but I used too much flange. Then I tried recording again, but I got interrupted by my mom. Tried again, got interrupted by my dad. Then, the next day I recorded it almost flawlessly, but I forgot to save it. (lol) I was wicked pissed by that point, so I decided, w/e I'm just gonna record this one more time, and if it's not good, I give up.

Luckily, I got it well enough. :p There is one section that is a bit muddy due to the flange, but it should be fine once there are drums/bass/vox.[/QUOTE]
So you did it in one take?

Futuro 06-22-2005 06:41 PM

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Record it! I'd love to hear how that sounds[/QUOTE]
i might sometime ill have to figure out the placing of hats and roto's in between first :thumb:

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-22-2005 06:53 PM

No, it took me 4 or 5 tries, but I only had one take that I actually fuc[B][I][/I][/B]ked up on.

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 06:58 PM

ya the only trouble that i have with the solo is mainly dannys climax at the end

Huber 06-22-2005 07:09 PM

[QUOTE=faith+1]that is still very impressive for 2 years. you should do the next drum off.[/QUOTE]

Definetly

magicaltrollII 06-22-2005 07:56 PM

Whats so hard about that solo... :confused:

/not a drummer

Huber 06-22-2005 08:07 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltrollII]Whats so hard about that solo... :confused:

/not a drummer[/QUOTE]

The hardest thing about playing almost anything Tool on drums (especially the solos) is learning how to count the entire song, because of the odd signatures. I've never tried that one, so I wouldn't know how to count it. I could make a good guess that it's harder to count the solo then the song because it changed from the rest of the song (except the build-up of course).

Not only the counting and not losing place, but the technicality of the playing is also a factor, but that is a little easier to do with practice. Where as something like timing and counting correctly in odd signatures is something you have to learn independantly. Just trying to play a song where it is required without previous practice with it will almost always result in failure.

Futuro 06-22-2005 08:10 PM

[QUOTE=magicaltrollII]Whats so hard about that solo... :confused:

/not a drummer[/QUOTE]

nothing really hard, but for 2 years its very impressive, also pulling it off perfectly is a deal in its own, cause i believe its time signature fluxuation is 7,7,7,8,7,7,7,8 getting that down in itself can be tricky....matter can emulate it the best i have heard....its actually perfect i think. :)

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 08:11 PM

yes becasue with the solo there is no way you can find your place by listening to the guitar, its all done off of the timming in your head

Huber 06-22-2005 08:12 PM

[QUOTE=Doomed To Crumble]yes becasue with the solo there is no way you find your place by listening to the guitar, its all done off pf the timming in your head[/QUOTE]

no matter how bad the grammar, he said it better than me in one sentance...

/loses

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-22-2005 08:13 PM

Isn't the solo in a polyrythmic time signature? That's what I thought it was on first listen...

Also, keeping time is a big factor in all of Tool's songs that are in wierd time sigs. The Grudge is the hardest that I've stumbled upon. It's in 5/8 time, and that makes the verse very hard to play. (The palmuted open D section) Overall, that is a tough song for any of the members. As far as toughness across the board, I'm sure The Grudge takes the cake. Sure, Ticks & Leeches is a godly song as far as the drumming goes, but the bass and guitar parts aren't hard at all.

EDIT: so it's a 29/8 to 7/8 polyrythm?!?!

Sliptallica- :lol:

What kind of recording capabilities do you have? I would be all over the geetar for that track. I've got a recording of the 1st segment. I'll link you if you wanna hear. :thumb:


[url=http://www.soundclick.com/util/downloadSong.cfm?ID=2502156]Right click, save target as[/url]

There's the mp3 of me playing Ticks on guitar.

Huber 06-22-2005 08:15 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Isn't the solo in a polyrythmic time signature? That's what I thought it was on first listen...

Also, keeping time is a big factor in all of Tool's songs that are in wierd time sigs. The Grudge is the hardest that I've stumbled upon. It's in 5/8 time, and that makes the verse very hard to play. (The palmuted open D section) Overall, that is a tough song for any of the members. As far as toughness across the board, I'm sure The Grudge takes the cake. Sure, Ticks & Leeches is a godly song as far as the drumming goes, but the bass and guitar parts aren't hard at all.[/QUOTE]

After you learn Ticks and Leeches you're like, "Man, that wasn't that hard, but I'm really sweaty."

It just takes some stamina, or I'm very out of shape.

Edit:

I have a single microphone, so not the best. I could always give it a shot.

I wonder how long we could keep talking without bumping the thread...

Edit2: So much for that

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 08:23 PM

Yes I would agree that the grudge is the hardest tool song to play on the drums.

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 08:25 PM

o ya and i feel that getting the hi hat right at some parts of tick and leeches is also very challenging along with the intro.

Huber 06-22-2005 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=Doomed To Crumble]o ya and i feel that getting the hi hat right at some parts of tick and leeches is also very challenging along with the intro.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that just takes some practice.

The hardest part for me is the post interlude section (I improvise it every time) and the second verse. The accents throw me off sometimes.

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-22-2005 08:27 PM

Meh, I'm not too worried about quality. I think that it would turn out very well though. That song is so fun to play. :D I beleive I said this once before in here, but one night before I went to bed, I played Ticks& Leeches and Lateralus in one set. It was amazing. :amaze: It was one of the most uplifting experience I've ever had.

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 08:27 PM

and third eye to omg how does danny remember it all

Huber 06-22-2005 08:28 PM

Yeah, I remember the first time I nailed (mostly) Ticks and Leeches. I was doing the double bass at the end before the last fill, and my sister's boyfriend jumps in and I didn't notice him but at the end he goes, "HOOOOLY **** THAT WAS BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!"

Bad in a good way. He listens to rap so it was kinda funny for me.

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 08:29 PM

can anybody here play the third eye intro on drums well?

Dr. Jake Destructo 06-22-2005 08:33 PM

I think I might learn Third Eye. That song is awesome. It seems like most Tool fans I talk to are discouraged by the length of the song. Sure, it may have a total running time of 13:47, but in reality, when you take out the ambience and the Bill Hicks/Tim Leary spiel at the beggining, it's really not much longer than Lateralus. :D

EDIT: It's still a freaking beast of a track.

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 08:52 PM

People who arent for its length can just shut up because i feel that its perfectly timed and it gets the point across to the listeners. I still geet a rush every time i listen to it.

Mr Herb 06-22-2005 08:58 PM

Third eye. Thatd be the **** playing that.

I was listening to lataralus and I came up with a riff some what simialr to the laterlaus chrous for teh bass. grt!

Now onto my point: Dudes at schools say bassist who play with pikcs instead of their fingers are mediocre and I constanly argue with them about those that.

What are yalls opions on? Is picking pathetic or something?

WE all know picking aint really bad. . .look at Justin and the Squire dude. :)

Kadnar24 06-22-2005 09:01 PM

I just joined this forum, and this is an awesome thread man. I'd just like to say I love tool, I am hopefully going to work on a lot of their songs, I know schism so far on drums, great song, really gave me some wonderful concepts to move around the drums such as the triplets on the hi hat in the verses and intro. I love it. I hope to learn the patient, and/or lateralus by the end of summer, and clean up schism a little too.

Great thread :).

Kadnar24 06-22-2005 09:04 PM

[QUOTE=Doomed To Crumble]Yes I would agree that the grudge is the hardest tool song to play on the drums.[/QUOTE]

Wow, I am glad their are a lot of drummers here, awesome stuff. I agree with you on this one. Some of the tom/bass drum work he does is phenomenal, its unbelievable.

Doomed To Crumble 06-22-2005 09:09 PM

im still trying to figure out what hes doing for the intro of third eye, when i look at it on video it looks like hes doing triplets on the toms but im still not sure


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