What's with the Anti-Rage posts...

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]If Rage ever got back together, hell froze over.


I've never heard of Fragments of Unbecoming... what genre?[/QUOTE]


Melodic Death Metal. I've got a few songs from their latest album [I]Skywards - A Sylphe's Ascension[/I] I'll send ya if you want to check them out. Their new album will be released on the 24th of March along with Cannibal Corpses new album [I]Kill[/I].

Can someone please tell me if there is an age restriction on Opeth concerts?

[QUOTE=rhcp pman]Can someone please tell me if there is an age restriction on Opeth concerts?[/QUOTE]


There was one here in Portland... I didn't go.... I should have though... I don't remember any age restrictions...

Age restrictions go by venue... Most of the time, Where the booze is in relation to the crowd... and how much booze.

They've always seperated "minors" from the booze at all shows I've been to...

They have the bar where you can't go if your under 21.

[QUOTE=rhcp pman]Can someone please tell me if there is an age restriction on Opeth concerts?[/QUOTE]

It depends on the venue, buddy. A good idea would be to ring (or get on the website) of the venue that the concert you're going to is going to be held, and ask about age restrictions.

The one I'm trying to go to has a bar, but the age restriction is only 12+.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]The one I'm trying to go to has a bar, but the age restriction is only 12+.[/QUOTE]
After all, we don't want anyone under 12 getting sloshed.

Heaven forbid young Billy get hammered and nail little Betsy.

[QUOTE=Scruples]After all, we don't want anyone under 12 getting sloshed.

Heaven forbid young Billy get hammered and nail little Betsy.[/QUOTE]

Please don't say anything remotely similar to God Forbid in a sentence about a concert, I got stuck seeing them open for bands I love twice, and almost a third time, but I was too sick to see Anthrax :(.

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Best part:

[i]There is no forgiveness in these eyes
For any of you but one
Dispel the mist for now
Melinda is the reason why I've come[/i][/QUOTE]


I totally agree, I get chills every time on that part. I think I'll put it in, I haven't listened to Still Life in a few days. :)

I'll be seeing Opeth in February, can't wait.

[QUOTE=Cunha]I'll be seeing Opeth in February, can't wait.[/QUOTE]
I am desperately hoping I can see them in February. It basically depends on one dude.
/crosses fingers

Well I got Ghost Reveries the other day, and I thought that it was pretty good. I have to admit that some of it kinda bored me, but Ghosts of Perdition and The Great Conjuring were pretty good.

I take it people here don't exactly like GR. Why is that?

Because it's not like their other work.

I find it okay if you're in the mood. The intro for Ghost of Perdition is crushing.

[QUOTE=Moses]Because it's not like their other work.

I find it okay if you're in the mood. The intro for Ghost of Perdition is crushing.[/QUOTE]


Yes I agree. It's not exactly what I expected, but I do like Ghost Of Perdition. It's a great song, other then that, Ghost Reveries is my least favorite [B]O[/B]peth album.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Melodic Death Metal. I've got a few songs from their latest album [I]Skywards - A Sylphe's Ascension[/I] I'll send ya if you want to check them out. Their new album will be released on the 24th of March along with Cannibal Corpses new album [I]Kill[/I].[/QUOTE]
Sure. [email]somebodysomeone509@hotmail.com[/email]

Thanks

I think the main reasons people don't like GR are:

Addition of keyboards, they are uneasy about this change. I personally am ambivalent about it--the keyboards work incredibly well at some points (the organs in GOP, BOTH, and the keyboard effects in TGC are all awesome) but the fact that they practically took over all the soft songs on GR I dislike. The soft songs just don't sound like Opeth.

The style is much more proggy and different from previous Opeth works.

And of course a pet peeve of mine, the padding of songs with boring, chugging, one-chord riffs. This happened once in a while on previous albums, but it happens ridiculously often on GR.

That said, GoP is still one of Opeth's best songs, and the rest of the album isn't bad either. It just lacks some of the magic of the previous albums--it's not even the music that's lacking, just the mood.

I agree, I really like Ghost Reveries. I'm not going to spend all day arguing with people because they don't think it compares to "old" Opeth.

Good points, Jude.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]Sure. [email]somebodysomeone509@hotmail.com[/email]

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Sent. Vocals aren't quite there yet, I'm betting they will be decent on [I]Sterling Black Icon[/I], he's definately no Akerfeldt, but still decent. Ingo Maier tears it up on drums, he's ungodly. Enjoy. :chug:

allright i havent gotten into Opeth yet... which is weird, but what are their absolute BEST songs that i could get into?

[QUOTE=Matas]allright i havent gotten into Opeth yet... which is weird, but what are their absolute BEST songs that i could get into?[/QUOTE]


There are so many, where do I start.

Black Rose Immortal
The Moor
In Mist She Was Standing
Ghost Of Perdition
The Master's Apprentices
Karma

to name a few

Deliverance
When
A Fair Judgement
Black Rose Immortal
To Bid You Farewell
Advent
Master's Apprentices
Ghost of Perdition
The Baying of the Hounds
Face of Melinda
The Moor
Blackwater Park
The Drapery Falls
Windowpane
To Rid the Disease

...

off topic...so my first Opeth album wasnt Orchid afterall. Morningrise it was. Im realy liking it. I got this rerelease one where theres this demo. Its interesting...

[QUOTE=lightningmetal666]Well I got Ghost Reveries the other day, and I thought that it was pretty good. I have to admit that some of it kinda bored me, but Ghosts of Perdition and The Great Conjuring were pretty good.

I take it people here don't exactly like GR. Why is that?[/QUOTE]

The Grand Conjuration*

I love Ghost Reveries, by the way. I think that album has a lot more energy, and changes around a lot more than other Opeth albums. The riffs change more often, and it stays more interesting in a lot of ways. Granted, a lot of the riffs arn't quite as good as past Opeth riffs, but I still think most of them are great stuff, and I especially like the songwriting and the proggy feel.

I like it when bands I like change their sound without losing their integrity, and Opeth have done just that, while still keeping their core sound.

My next favourite is Still Life, so it's not like I only like new Opeth or anything, and [i]arguably[/i] that album has their most complex riffs/songwriting on it, generally.

As for Opeth songs to get you into Opeth, I'm not going to give you a huge list, these songs from BP did it for me:

Bleak
The Drapery Falls
Still Day Beneath The Sun (Bonus Track from Blackwater Park)

I found this interesting

''Mike Åkerfeldt - former Bloodbath member with possibly the best death metal voice in the world has stepped up to help the band destroy Wacken on this exclusive one time happening. This is something that you're guaranteed to never see again as Mike will not be rejoining the band in any way apart from committing to this performance.

In related news, Peter Tägtgren has left the band due to conflicting schedules. We thank him for sharing his acclaimed talent and efforts on 'Nightmares Made Flesh'. Bloodbath live at Wacken, Blackstage, Friday August 5th:''

Mike Åkerfeldt - Vocals
Blakkheim - Guitar
Dan Swanö - Guitar
Jonas Renkse - Bass
Axe - Drums


You can read more on this link.
[url]http://www.bloodbath.biz/[/url]

That's kinda old Flynn.. that was in August I think. Thanks for that song you sent me, the drums were the first thing I noticed. :p

Ghost Reveries...

hmm. Well. I have to say I dislike the soft songs because of the sloppy songwriting, everything else was OK, in my opinion, being "Ghost of perdition" the ultimate highlight, and Beneath the mire my favoritest song out of the pack.

But I don't know. Eh, I like it.

On a related note, I'm still obsessed with Lamentations. I should get more DVDs.

[QUOTE=TojesDoLan]Ghost Reveries...

hmm. Well. I have to say I dislike the soft songs because of the sloppy songwriting, everything else was OK, in my opinion, being "Ghost of perdition" the ultimate highlight, and Beneath the mire my favoritest song out of the pack.

But I don't know. Eh, I like it.

On a related note, I'm still obsessed with Lamentations. I should get more DVDs.[/QUOTE]
Yuck, Beneath the Mire is crud. I suppose the end isn't so bad, but the first half of the song makes me want to gag.

The soft songs are too keyboard-ridden for me. The classical and folk styles of acoustic guitar playing that made Opeth sound so eerie and medieval are practically gone, and that's what hurts. Damnation kept those elements while also including keyboards, so it worked better.

And The Grand Conjuration deserves way more credit than people give it. It is an awesome song.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]That's kinda old Flynn.. that was in August I think. Thanks for that song you sent me, the drums were the first thing I noticed. :p[/QUOTE]


Yeah it's old, I didn't see anyone post it on the thread, just wanted be sure.
Did you get all the songs? Scattered To The Four Winds is my favorite song from that album. I can't wait for SBI. :chug:

[QUOTE=Jude]Yuck, Beneath the Mire is crud. I suppose the end isn't so bad, but the first half of the song makes me want to gag.

The soft songs are too keyboard-ridden for me. The classical and folk styles of acoustic guitar playing that made Opeth sound so eerie and medieval are practically gone, and that's what hurts. Damnation kept those elements while also including keyboards, so it worked better.

And The Grand Conjuration deserves way more credit than people give it. It is an awesome song.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. Well, I don't know, probably I have a thing for it because it was the first song I heard out of GR, so I play it quite often.

Now that I think about it, the song I dislike the most has got to be "hours of wealth". It just goes around with excessive instrumental, and excessive lonely vocal parts, which make me sad and angry and sad again.

Atonement has a nice vibe, though. And Harlequin Forest is fine too... but I don't know. I don't really love it.

[QUOTE=Jude]Yuck, Beneath the Mire is crud. I suppose the end isn't so bad, but the first half of the song makes me want to gag.

The soft songs are too keyboard-ridden for me. The classical and folk styles of acoustic guitar playing that made Opeth sound so eerie and medieval are practically gone, and that's what hurts. Damnation kept those elements while also including keyboards, so it worked better.

And The Grand Conjuration deserves way more credit than people give it. It is an awesome song.[/QUOTE]

Im not taking a stab at your opinions or anything like that, but there are two things i want to make comments about.

This first one isn't actually directly at you. Its starting to annoy me how people can't get past the fact that those accoustic medievil elements are now gone from Opeths music. They have taken a new direction, and that in itself should be applauded. They could have stuck to that same style,knowing that it would make the fans happy, but they decided to make a change and i wish people would just deal with it.

And secondly, you (im sure it was you saying it, but i may be wrong) made a comment before about being dissapointed by the fact that there are many chugga-chugga, one chord riffs throughout GR, but you now comment on how The Grand Conjuration deserves more credit than it gets. Dont get me wrong, i love that song, but besides the asweomse intro, the first few minutes of that song is full of those easy, un-complicated riffs you are talking about. Granted, there is a cool solo, and some nice riffs throughout the middle, but for the last few minutes it again returns to those un-complicated riffs.
Like i said before, im not taking a stab, but i just wanted to point that out.

[QUOTE=Jude]And The Grand Conjuration deserves way more credit than people give it. It is an awesome song.[/QUOTE]


That was my fav. on the whole album. I can't really judge too quick because I haven't really sat and listened through the whole album yet, but I've heard bits and pieces and from that, I found the intro to that song to be amazing.

Ghosts of perdition has some incredible vocals on it.

TGC is an awesome song. There are just better songs on that album such as GOP and BOTH.

I agree with Ghost Reveries isn't Opeth's best, although they do have some [i]HUGE[/i] highlights on it with Ghost of Perdition, Baying of the Hounds and The Grand Conjuration. I think it is sort of a transition album for Opeth, especially with the keyboards taking a more prominent role. At this point, they are either going to turn back to their shell and go back to their old sound, or try and refine their new one.

I hope they don't go back and try to attempt to release another Blackwater Park as their next album. I believe the new feel Opeth has gained has great potential, they just need a little work and revision on it. The next release from the Swedes should prove to be monstrous either way.

Either way, you'd get people complaining that they're either rehashing old sounds, or that they wished they had those old elements in their music still. Bands can't win, and I applaud Opeth for covering new ground and still sounding good rather than stagnating. You don't have to like the change, but do you really want to buy the same album over and over?

TGC on the album is horrible. TGC live is amazing, however, just because of the atmosphere it creates.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Either way, you'd get people complaining that they're either rehashing old sounds, or that they wished they had those old elements in their music still. Bands can't win, and I applaud Opeth for covering new ground and still sounding good rather than stagnating. You don't have to like the change, but do you really want to buy the same album over and over?[/QUOTE]


If they did something like Morningrise or Orchid again, you're goddamn right I would buy it.

[QUOTE=Flynn]If they did something like Morningrise or Orchid again, you're goddamn right I would buy it.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you'd buy it, but in all likelihood it wouldn't be as good as Morningrise or Orchid, because you've already heard them before. It would feel like a few bonus tracks rather than a full album. Lauds to Opeth for [u]f[/u]ucking the expectations and trying something new. They pulled it off well, anyway.

[QUOTE=Flynn]If they did something like Morningrise or Orchid again, you're goddamn right I would buy it.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you would for another album, to see what they can do now, but another album after that? Psh, unlikely, it would be stagnated and repetitive.

Anyways, they'd never go back down that road, you might like melodic death metal more than their more progressive sound, but they don't. So many bands play in that style anyways, i'd rather have Opeth playing in their more original style.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Either way, you'd get people complaining that they're either rehashing old sounds, or that they wished they had those old elements in their music still. Bands can't win, and I applaud Opeth for covering new ground and still sounding good rather than stagnating. You don't have to like the change, but do you really want to buy the same album over and over?[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with everything you say. There's no point in making the same album over or going back to the same style they had years ago to make the fans happy. Ultimatley, Opeth are going to write music that THEY like and find interesting, not music the fans want.

[QUOTE=Shadius]Maybe you would for another album, to see what they can do now, but another album after that? Psh, unlikely, it would be stagnated and repetitive.

Anyways, they'd never go back down that road, you might like melodic death metal more than their more progressive sound, but they don't. So many bands play in that style anyways, i'd rather have Opeth playing in their more original style.[/QUOTE]

Okay, cool. That's your preference, and I respect it. On the other hand, I'd rather have [B]O[/B]peth record an Orchid, Morningrise based album. I love the style, guitars, drums, bass - everything. It's well worth a few more albums in that genre. But that will never happen, so I'll drop it.