[QUOTE=Whale and Wasp]yes that was what happened to me too (except it wasnt a relationship) with soycd and welcome to the machine. theyre good songs but they give me bad memories

EDIT: :eek: :eek: im listening to careful with that axe eugene


is that a person screaming????[/QUOTE]


Yeah Roger almost does sort of a black metal-esque scream in that song.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Meddle is great music, but I don't think it has the flow or impact th at DSOTM has.[/QUOTE]
TO be honest, I've thought about it a lot, you know, the music industry of the early 1970s, how Meddle sounds, etc., and I've come to this conclusion:

I can't believe that album didn't make a HUGE impact.

Think about it. 1970-71, the music industry was at a stand-still. The world was left shocked and appalled at the breakup of the Beatles. There were no amazing albums coming out at that time. No new ground had been broken. Everyone was just... waiting, waiting to see where the industry was going.

Now think about Meddle. Released in 1971 by a moderately popular British rock band (that right there should have been enough).

Now think about the track-list.

One of These Days - An amazingly hard-rocking song that was incredibly heavy for its time. I'm not sure If there was ANYTHING like that song at the time. Black Sabbath maybe... but please. One of These Days should have attracted the youth looking for a hard sound.

A Pillow of Winds - A beautiful, soft, acoustic song, with romantic lyrics and a flowing voice from Gilmour. This seems like the kind fo song that would attract all of the romanticising girls of the time, looking for a new crooner.

Fearless - Simply a great song. This would attracta WHOLE lot of people.

San Tropez - One word. Beatles. In light of their breakup, fans were looking for a band to fill the void. Listen to the song; you can only agree that it's an incredibly Beatles-esque song. Why wasn't this song all over the radio?

Seamus - This would attract... someone I'm sure.

Echoes - The trippers. Anyone that loved a trippy song would love Echoes. That song is the epitome of long, trippy jam song. Really, you can practically smell the weed coming out of the stoner's mouth while toking to Gilmour's monotone lyrics.


I Just.
Don't.
Get.
It.

[QUOTE=Shazzam]Yeah Roger almost does sort of a black metal-esque scream in that song.[/QUOTE]

Probably the first time he used his falsetto. :p

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]Think about it. 1970-71, the music industry was at a stand-still. The world was left shocked and appalled at the breakup of the Beatles. There were no amazing albums coming out at that time. No new ground had been broken. Everyone was just... waiting, waiting to see where the industry was going[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? 70-71 was the rise of prog, not to mention harder rock than there ever had been, and even the beginnings of metal (amongst other great albums coming out). The Who released Live at Leeds and Who's Next, Zeppelin put out III abd IV, ELP formed, the Allmans released Live at the Fillmore, the Dead put out Workingman's Dead, American Beauty, and Skull and Roses. Jethro Tull released Benefit and Aqualung, the Isle of Wight Festival in 1970 was absolutely mindblowing, Yes released the Yes Album and Fragile, Traffic put out their two most advanced records to date, etc. Ground was being broken everywhere you looked.

Naturally the Beatles' break-up was a huge hit on the industry, but real rock fans knew what was going on and knew the importance of the records in these years. Maybe rock fell away from the mainstream but it certainly didn't slow down.

[QUOTE=Lunch]Are you serious? 70-71 was the rise of prog, not to mention harder rock than there ever had been, and even the beginnings of metal (amongst other great albums coming out). The Who released Live at Leeds and Who's Next, Zeppelin put out III abd IV, ELP formed, the Allmans released Live at the Fillmore, the Dead put out Workingman's Dead, American Beauty, and Skull and Roses. Jethro Tull released Benefit and Aqualung, the Isle of Wight Festival in 1970 was absolutely mindblowing, Yes released the Yes Album and Fragile, Traffic put out their two most advanced records to date, etc. Ground was being broken everywhere you looked.

Naturally the Beatles' break-up was a huge hit on the industry, but real rock fans knew what was going on and knew the importance of the records in these years. Maybe rock fell away from the mainstream but it certainly didn't slow down.[/QUOTE]
OK, I guess I was wrong :upset:
My dad was actually telling about that era himself, and he was 15-16 then. So I took his info as true. But w/e.

[QUOTE=Shazzam]Yeah Roger almost does sort of a black metal-esque scream in that song.[/QUOTE]
:amaze: wow thats roger....? :lol:

[QUOTE=Whale and Wasp]:amaze: wow thats roger....? :lol:[/QUOTE]
I thought the same thing, I had no idea Waters could sound like that.

NP - Pink Floyd - Hey You

Can you guys help me out with something here?

I'm a fan of Floyd (but not a huge one) and my friend's a bigger fan of Floyd. He said that Syd Barrett is alive...I was always under the impression that he was dead. He said that he was living in England with his mom. I don't really listen to much music before DSOTM so I took his word for it.

Is Syd Barrett dead?

As far as I know Syd Barrett is still alive.

I THINK he's still alive.

I had some photos of him that were around 2000-2002 so i guess he's still around.

They were depressing to look at :(

Yeah, he is still alive. Nick Mason says in [u]Inside Out[/u] that he is living somewhere in Cambridge.

[QUOTE=clairvoyant]As far as I know Syd Barrett is still alive.[/QUOTE]

He is. He lives in England with somebody who looks after him. He's still completely insane, it would have nice if he got a little better, but apparently his condition is still just about the same as it was 35 years ago.

Edit- beat :upset:

Hmmm....

I always thought he overdosed or something. So was he kicked out to bring in David?

[QUOTE=classicrockman]Hmmm....

I always thought he overdosed or something. So was he kicked out to bring in David?[/QUOTE]

His drug abuse got out of hand, and regularly didn't attend shows, so they got Gilmore to fill in for him. Eventually they just dropped Syd and brought Gilmore in full time.

[QUOTE=classicrockman]Hmmm....

I always thought he overdosed or something. So was he kicked out to bring in David?[/QUOTE]

He went insane from acid. Powerful stuff. Somewhat similar to Brian Wilson, but a much worse condition. When Pink Floyd was performing, he'd just sit there and stare into space, and so they brought Gilmour in, who was a friend of Syd, to cover for Syd during live shows. As his condition got worse, they permanently replaced him with Dave.

Edit- Beat again :angry:

This is embarrassing. I should just give up with answering questions.

[QUOTE=robo2448]Edit- Beat again :angry:

This is embarrassing. I should just give up with answering questions.[/QUOTE]

:lol: You seem pretty knowledgeable. Have you read Inside Out?

[QUOTE=Skyler]:lol: You seem pretty knowledgeable. Have you read Inside Out?[/QUOTE]

No. I've just hung around in this thread for 6 months ;)

Which is better, Inside Out or A Saucerful of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Oddessy? I'm really want to get one of them, but I'm not sure which to get.

[QUOTE=robo2448]No. I've just hung around in this thread for 6 months ;)

Which is better, Inside Out or A Saucerful of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Oddessy? I'm really want to get one of them, but I'm not sure which to get.[/QUOTE]

Inside Out has pictures, but it's more expensive. A Saucerful of Secrets is very, very detailed. I actually haven't read it all yet, because it's so detailed, but it's still awesome.

I really want "Inside Out" haven't really heard much about "Saucerful" but the way you guys talk about I should check it out.

[QUOTE=magicbus]Inside Out has pictures, but it's more expensive. A Saucerful of Secrets is very, very detailed. I actually haven't read it all yet, because it's so detailed, but it's still awesome.[/QUOTE]

I think I'll get Saucerful of Secrets then. Thanks.

I'd probably be disappointed with Mason's book. I mean, pictures are awesome, but from someone who's actually a member of the band, I'd want a lot of detailed stories.

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]TO be honest, I've thought about it a lot, you know, the music industry of the early 1970s, how Meddle sounds, etc., and I've come to this conclusion:

I can't believe that album didn't make a HUGE impact.

Think about it. 1970-71, the music industry was at a stand-still. The world was left shocked and appalled at the breakup of the Beatles. There were no amazing albums coming out at that time. No new ground had been broken. Everyone was just... waiting, waiting to see where the industry was going.

Now think about Meddle. Released in 1971 by a moderately popular British rock band (that right there should have been enough).

Now think about the track-list.

One of These Days - An amazingly hard-rocking song that was incredibly heavy for its time. I'm not sure If there was ANYTHING like that song at the time. Black Sabbath maybe... but please. One of These Days should have attracted the youth looking for a hard sound.

A Pillow of Winds - A beautiful, soft, acoustic song, with romantic lyrics and a flowing voice from Gilmour. This seems like the kind fo song that would attract all of the romanticising girls of the time, looking for a new crooner.

Fearless - Simply a great song. This would attracta WHOLE lot of people.

San Tropez - One word. Beatles. In light of their breakup, fans were looking for a band to fill the void. Listen to the song; you can only agree that it's an incredibly Beatles-esque song. Why wasn't this song all over the radio?

Seamus - This would attract... someone I'm sure.

Echoes - The trippers. Anyone that loved a trippy song would love Echoes. That song is the epitome of long, trippy jam song. Really, you can practically smell the weed coming out of the stoner's mouth while toking to Gilmour's monotone lyrics.


I Just.
Don't.
Get.
It.[/QUOTE]
Aside from Lunch's answer, there's also the fact that it didn't become popular precisely because it appealed to so many styles. DSOTM is a very specific album, with a specific style. Meddle is the kind of album that all stereotypes would like some of, but no stereotype would like all of.

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Aside from Lunch's answer, there's also the fact that it didn't become popular precisely because it appealed to so many styles. DSOTM is a very specific album, with a specific style. Meddle is the kind of album that all stereotypes would like some of, but no stereotype would like all of.[/QUOTE]
Except for the "BigTrav" stereotype :thumb:

Haha.

Nick goes into a lot of detail about Pre PATGOD Floyd. After DSotM, he doesnt go into as much detail.

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]Except for the "BigTrav" stereotype :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, except for that one. And the "Machine of the Gods" stereotype.

But seriously, you're talking about how different songs appeal to different groups. But none of those groups, if they were focused on just that style, would enjoy all the songs.

[QUOTE=robo2448]No. I've just hung around in this thread for 6 months ;)

Which is better, Inside Out or A Saucerful of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Oddessy? I'm really want to get one of them, but I'm not sure which to get.[/QUOTE]

I've never heard of A Saucerful of Secrets. The only reason I knew Inside Out exsisted was because I happened to find it in Barnes and Noble. I was kind of disappointed by it actually. Not as much detailed information as I was hoping for. The pictures are nice though.

[QUOTE=Skyler]I've never heard of A Saucerful of Secrets. The only reason I knew Inside Out exsisted was because I happened to find it in Barnes and Noble. I was kind of disappointed by it actually. Not as much detailed information as I was hoping for. The pictures are nice though.[/QUOTE]

I really like the picture of the band hangin out at the beach. They all look really down to earth. And chill.

[QUOTE=magicbus]I really like the picture of the band hangin out at the beach. They all look really down to earth. And chill.[/QUOTE]

Not sure if I know which one you're talking about. What page is it on?

[QUOTE=Skyler]Not sure if I know which one you're talking about. What page is it on?[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure, I've only seen the book a few times in the store :/

It's like a picture of 10 people on the beach, including the members of Pink Floyd. Roger has some cool aviator glasses on, and everyone else is wearing swimsuits. It makes them seem "normal" :p

Ohhhh yeah I know which one you're talking about now. That picture reminds me of The Beatles Anthology. There is a picture very similar to that one in it of the Beatles and their girlfriends at the beach in Fiji. You're right, it does make them seem very normal.