ok guys stop who even cares

alright i'll stop i just want you guys to know i'm mad as hell right now

[QUOTE=Haz;18673798]cause all people were created equal, right



well that's all well and good, but you really shouldn't try to compare yourself and this supposed victory to the struggle of others. you don't know what they've been through, what psychological triggers have been coded into them throughout the years, what reasons they have for giving up the fight[/QUOTE]

"supposed victory?" i $topped that wa$ the goal an i reached it how i$ it not a real victory?

an if i can $top why can't they? people want to make excu$e$ an blame other$ for their lack of determination i took matter$ into my own hand$ an conuered my demon$ an came out a better per$on

all you need to $top i$ a month or $o to fully detox in a $afe place and a plan to avoid getting back in the $ame $ituation an $ome will power

[QUOTE=Juddybear;18673801]doesnt make quitting for god any less faggish[/QUOTE]

i do not agree with these 12 step programs being based around submitting to a higher power. they should teach values based on self worth, and how to overcome struggling with addiction without being a church recruitment center

it's where they catch people at their lowest. people who have their wills broken can submit to all kinds of bullshit, it's all well and good to be a smartarse and judge them but if you haven't walked a mile in their shoes, wtf do you know about what makes them tick, seriously?

things are not so black and white as religion = bad, people struggling with addiction should kick it could turkey and without any assistance, i've got an iron will and can deal with anything everyone else is stupid. it's all posturing, faggot bullshit

dude sam

EDIT: dude haz

[QUOTE=Drugstep;18673804]yeah you're right man i'm jealous because you didn't need religion to keep doing opiates and pretend you don't do them

whereas i sold out and became a jesus freak to overcome my crippling addiction to smoking incense

now you're just making shit up off the top of your head[/QUOTE]

lol what i don't pretend i don't u$e them

i admit i u$e them but not very often an only hydro$

i $topped heroin on my term$ i never wanted to $top hydro$

doing hydros every now and then is nothing compared to heroin come on alex i mean really

EDIT: ok now we all stop

justin is only opiniated on the hard hitting issues

[QUOTE=lukeskywalkertakingadump;18673813]"supposed victory?" i $topped that wa$ the goal an i reached it how i$ it not a real victory?[/QUOTE]

you've gone a good, long period of time. but who knows what the future holds for you? based off on how seriously you seemed to take being shuffled into rehab, I just don't know man

best of luck with this shit though, seriously

higher power doesnt have to be god. ive been to AA a lot and some people just do there own thing who cares

sam will def relapse at some point, we all do :/

[QUOTE=Juddybear;18673827]sam will def relapse at some point, we all do :/[/QUOTE]

its the sad truth, i think about 90% of people relapse in the first year

first time i quit i relapsed after like two weeks because i found like six bags in my sisters room hahaa that shit ruled

[QUOTE=Haz;18673814]if you haven't walked a mile in their shoes, wtf do you know about what makes them tick, seriously?[/QUOTE]

lol but i have not the EXACT $ituation but we are there for the $ame rea$on


[QUOTE=Haz;18673814]things are not so black and white as religion = bad, people struggling with addiction should kick it could turkey and without any assistance, i've got an iron will and can deal with anything everyone else is stupid. it's all posturing, faggot bullshi[/QUOTE]

all i know i$ i wa$ able to $top doing heroin i did it on my own term$ an gave up what i wanted to an continue to do the $hit i want to with no problem$

my life i$ much better an i accomplished my goal in my own way without all the extra b$

[QUOTE=Juddybear;18673829]first time i quit i relapsed after like two weeks because i found like six bags in my sisters room hahaa that shit ruled[/QUOTE]

page turn

lol i bet you were stoked

idk if ive ever been more stoked

EDIT: the first time i had intercourse with this one chick i was actually way way way more stoked, was amazing

yeah i'm tryin hard to $tay away from h an i've done well $o far

i wa$ two block$ away from my dealer with $30 buck$ in my pocket a few week$ ago an i $till didn't buy any

[QUOTE=lukeskywalkertakingadump;18673838]yeah i'm tryin hard to $tay away from h an i've done well $o far

i wa$ two block$ away from my dealer with $30 buck$ in my pocket a few week$ ago an i $till didn't buy any[/QUOTE]

gj dude seriously, had that been me i prob woulda bought some tbh

[QUOTE=Juddybear;18673819]doing hydros every now and then is nothing compared to heroin come on alex i mean really[/QUOTE]

exactly

i never even WANTEd to $top doin hydro$ an i don't need to $top doin them to $top heroin

the all or nothin philo$ophy AA ha$ i$ retarded

[QUOTE=lukeskywalkertakingadump;18673830]lol but i have not the EXACT $ituation but we are there for the $ame rea$on[/QUOTE]

no you haven't. i'm talking beyond that. you never experienced their childhood, their formative teenage years, any awkwardness as an adult breaking into nursing homes and writing awkward pop

not all addictions were created equal, different things trigger people psychologically.

i dont care about other ppls addictions for the most part, fuck em

that doesn't really go against anything I said, but it does make you look like an asshole. so, gg?

[QUOTE=Juddybear;18673839]gj dude seriously, had that been me i prob woulda bought some tbh[/QUOTE]

thank$ man it wa$ hard but i bought $ome my hydro$ in$tead it wa$ le$$ $ati$fying but it wa$ worth it in the long run

well why should i care i dont know them

EDIT @ sam: yeah dude i know exactly how that feels, i coulda got bags like a month ago but i got percs instead and didnt even get that fucked up :/

what are u talking abt

lets see. i went like a year without opiates then i relapsed. now im 5 months clean from opiates. i drink and thats it really. i go to, two meetings a week that take up like 2 hours of my week.

[QUOTE=Juddybear;18673849]well why should i care i dont know them[/QUOTE]

you don't have to be personally involved or emotionally invested to understand

that the way you deal with your own bullshit won't necessarily work for others

[QUOTE=Haz;18673855]you don't have to be personally involved or emotionally invested to understand

that the way you deal with your own bullshit won't necessarily work for others[/QUOTE]

but my way is clearly the best way other people are fuckin dumb

everybody says that though

which I think makes it kinda ridiculous

[QUOTE=Haz;18673841]no you haven't. i'm talking beyond that. you never experienced their childhood, their formative teenage years, [B]any awkwardness as an adult breaking into nursing homes and writing awkward pop
[/B]
not all addictions were created equal, different things trigger people psychologically.[/QUOTE]

the highlighted part make$ it look like you're kiddin rite now lol

i actually have life experience in thi$ $ituation haz

you have like none at all

i had my own $hare of trouble$ i have a v dy$functional family and had a pretty difficult time in my life but that didnt $top me from kickin

not everyone i$ exactly the $ame but it$ all the $ame ba$ic concept

breakin addiction$ take$ $elf control an determination AA i$ a crutch

al$o you are mad

[QUOTE=lukeskywalkertakingadump;18673860]the hilited part make$ it look like you're kiddin rite now lol

i actually have life experience in thi$ $ituation haz

you have like none at all

i had my own $hare of trouble$ i have a v dy$functional family and had a pretty difficult time in my life but that didnt $top me from kickin

not everyone i$ exactly the $ame but it$ all the $ame ba$ic concept

breakin addiction$ take$ $elf control an determination AA i$ a crutch[/QUOTE]

backed fuckin hard

[QUOTE]i had my own $hare of trouble$ i have a v dy$functional family and had a pretty difficult time in my life but that didnt $top me from kickin[/QUOTE]look everyone its an american hero

[QUOTE=Juddybear;18673861]backed fuckin hard[/QUOTE]
what the hell have you ever done compared to blaockhead

what has anyone done

[QUOTE=(*The Noonward Race*);18673864]what the hell have you ever done compared to blaockhead[/QUOTE]

lol

[QUOTE=Aakon_Keetreh;18673853]lets see. i went like a year without opiates then i relapsed. now im 5 months clean from opiates. i drink and thats it really. i go to, two meetings a week that take up like 2 hours of my week.[/QUOTE]

why can't you $top without AA thouh?

all it i$ i$ a bunch of people bitching an talking about how much their life $ucked when they u$ed an how awe$ome it i$ now that they $topped

being at tho$e meeting$ i$ boring it make$ me want to u$e more than any thin tbh

they repeat the $ame ba$ic $tory over an over every time

for real all that aa shit is tired

[QUOTE=Juddybear;18673866]lol[/QUOTE]
look this bitch is afraid

[QUOTE=(*The Noonward Race*);18673871]look this bitch is afraid[/QUOTE]

you dont even know me son