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FunkMetalBass 01-05-2010 01:56 PM

[quote=fatbandit;17735398]you're going to gig 4 basses?

god. everyone else in soundcheck is gonna hate you fast.

i'm gonna go play in this wondrous snowfall! wheeeeeee[/quote]

I normally gig 2 basses without my effects chain and I do 99% of my sound-checking at home pre-gig. The sound guys around here only shift levels up and down, so, theoretically, if I can balance my levels really well outside of the gig, I only need to have the soundguy adjust one bass and the others will fall in line.

I'd like to start using a 3rd bass live, because the Stingray + Pick + Stainless Steel strings just has the sexiest tone that I love to use for 3 of our songs. Unforunately my A/B pedal only gives me the ability to use two. It's great for my differently tuned basses (Standard, Half-Step Down).

BenJammin 01-05-2010 03:19 PM

I gig with 1 bass, with my Ibanez around only as backup, in the unlikely case I need it.

FunkMetalBass 01-05-2010 03:23 PM

Do you gig the Stambaugh?

BenJammin 01-05-2010 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17735584]Do you gig the Stambaugh?[/QUOTE]

Obviously.

It's my best feeling, sounding, and looking bass.

Of course I gig it. :)

I don't play any of my other basses, honestly. The only reason I keep my Ibanez is purely so that I have a backup bass.

Efrim 01-05-2010 03:37 PM

'allo.

whitesquares 01-05-2010 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17735592]The only reason I keep my Ibanez is purely so that I have a backup bass.[/QUOTE]

Everyone should have a back up instrument, no matter what. It could save a gig one day.

BenJammin 01-05-2010 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=Efrim;17735626]'allo.[/QUOTE]

hai

Long time no speak.

Back in Frenchtown?

FunkMetalBass 01-05-2010 03:41 PM

[quote=BenJammin;17735592]Obviously.

It's my best feeling, sounding, and looking bass.

Of course I gig it. :)

I don't play any of my other basses, honestly. The only reason I keep my Ibanez is purely so that I have a backup bass.[/quote]

Fair enough. I have a couple basses that I purely use for practice or because I like how they sound recorded (my Fretless Jazz, for instance), but that I would probably never use live.

BenJammin 01-05-2010 03:45 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17735637]Fair enough. I have a couple basses that I purely use for practice or because I like how they sound recorded (my Fretless Jazz, for instance), but that I would probably never use live.[/QUOTE]

I figured your question was aimed more at the value of the bass than anything.

Efrim 01-05-2010 03:57 PM

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17735636]hai

Long time no speak.

Back in Frenchtown?[/QUOTE]

Da, da.

Courses are looking good, readin sexy Roman sources.
Wass new?

FunkMetalBass 01-05-2010 04:02 PM

[quote=BenJammin;17735641]I figured your question was aimed more at the value of the bass than anything.[/quote]

Value of the bass is pretty moot. I'd play out a $50,000 bass or a $50 bass as long as it played well and fit the role that I needed it to.

BenJammin 01-05-2010 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=Efrim;17735664]Da, da.

Courses are looking good, readin sexy Roman sources.
Wass new?[/QUOTE]

Not a whole lot. We got a drummer today, which is pretty solid.

I'm working part-time at my old job, so I'm not border-line homeless anymore.

Nothing, otherwise.

FunkMetalBass 01-05-2010 04:05 PM

I will never take a winter course again. One semester condensed into 3 weeks is not only brutal, it's Religious Studies of American Religions, which is completely uninteresting. Why did I pay $1400 to take this?!?!?! hsihhggsk gzsb cdk fbdxk fbgkdgjhdxbgjhxdgkjfhdgxrdhxdghxdf!!!! f**k

Efrim 01-05-2010 04:07 PM

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17735673]Not a whole lot. We got a drummer today, which is pretty solid.

I'm working part-time at my old job, so I'm not border-line homeless anymore.

Nothing, otherwise.[/QUOTE]

neat.
did you have a fine christmas?

BenJammin 01-05-2010 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=Efrim;17735687]neat.
did you have a fine christmas?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it wasn't too bad. Spent most of the last month taking care of my mom, who came down with H1N1. It was good, though. Good eatings and whatnot.

BenJammin 01-05-2010 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=FunkMetalBass;17735672]Value of the bass is pretty moot. I'd play out a $50,000 bass or a $50 bass as long as it played well and fit the role that I needed it to.[/QUOTE]

I've had this bass for almost 2 years now, and I can't imagine using any other instrument.

Efrim 01-05-2010 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17735690]Yeah, it wasn't too bad. Spent most of the last month taking care of my mom, who came down with H1N1. It was good, though. Good eatings and whatnot.[/QUOTE]

that's good. mine was pretty damn busy, im not sure if i enjoyed all of it but whatever. also good eats.
you been vaccinated?

BenJammin 01-05-2010 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=Efrim;17735731]that's good. mine was pretty damn busy, im not sure if i enjoyed all of it but whatever. also good eats.
you been vaccinated?[/QUOTE]

Negative. Not one for syringes, and think the whole thing is overblown. I'll deal with it if I get it.

Efrim 01-05-2010 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=BenJammin;17735758]Negative. Not one for syringes, and think the whole thing is overblown. I'll deal with it if I get it.[/QUOTE]

i got it. it was free and convenient. getting it would be inconvenient.
what exciting foods did you have?

FunkMetalBass 01-05-2010 06:53 PM

Our shirts are simple and sexy.

The guy did a great job on them.

Spaceman Spiff 01-06-2010 11:29 AM

I took off work today so I can go see this band live. Should be sweet. They ripped it up last time.

Moon Flavor 01-06-2010 12:35 PM

[url]http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http://www.youtube.com/v/aEiWoWoM4R0&start1=0&video2=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXeWTf1gUIo&start2=[/url]

just thought you all should know

BenJammin 01-06-2010 02:32 PM

oh god, I lol'd.

whitesquares 01-06-2010 04:14 PM

Funniest. Thing. I've. Seen. In. Ages.

Cheers, man.

burtonbassist_102 01-06-2010 06:01 PM

holy ****, i haven't laughed that hard at something in a LONG time.

thanks for that.

Mr. Pickle 01-06-2010 08:06 PM

It was funnier in the YL,YL thread. The bass forum seems to make things less funny.

Aaron 01-06-2010 08:52 PM

I feel like I'm asking the unthinkable here, but: are there any amps that I could use for BOTH guitar and bass and have success for both?

Convectuoso 01-06-2010 11:28 PM

Omar from TMV uses a bass amp live...That's about all the knowledge I have on that subject.

You'd probably just need a different cabinet if you found a head that you liked for both.

Aaron 01-06-2010 11:39 PM

I've been looking at smaller amps, like that Orange Tiny Terror and the Vox something I can't remember. And I thought, hmm... it's small, it's gonna be burning away, hmm.

:amaze: 01-06-2010 11:40 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17738565]I feel like I'm asking the unthinkable here, but: are there any amps that I could use for BOTH guitar and bass and have success for both?[/QUOTE]

You'll have more success running a guitar through a bass amp than vice versa. So I'd suggest looking into a tube-driven bass head. Probably paired with some 10" drivers.

FunkMetalBass 01-06-2010 11:49 PM

Only two more tracks left to record and then we just have vocals next week.

w00tness.

I've got my stereo compressor set up for my stage/recording rig. I use the left side to compress the signal once (lightly) through my effects loop and then I use the right side after the DI out. This way the sound guy can stop turning me down when I clip for all of 0.04 seconds and keeping me completely out of the mix on stage.

Now I just have to work on my pedal board. Gah.

Moon Flavor 01-06-2010 11:58 PM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17738989]I've been looking at smaller amps, like that Orange Tiny Terror and the Vox something I can't remember. And I thought, hmm... it's small, it's gonna be burning away, hmm.[/QUOTE]

My buddy has an amp that's meant for a keyboard I believe it was a peavey something or other. It had like 4 inputs and we would have bass and guitar going at the same time and it'd sound fine

since, ya know, keyboard has more range than both combined

food for thought?

fatbandit 01-07-2010 06:37 AM

Any head is fine. They might not all SOUND good, but they'll work. It's the cab you want to worry about. Use guitar through a bass cab, and you'll probably be fine, but use bass through a guitar cab, and the drivers can't cope with the low frequency. So use a bass cab.

Aaron 01-07-2010 07:00 AM

So go for like [if I use Orange as an example] a Tiny Terror head but with a SP210 it's work?

Spaceman Spiff 01-07-2010 11:28 AM

[QUOTE=Joelbassman;17738948]Omar from TMV uses a bass amp live...That's about all the knowledge I have on that subject.

You'd probably just need a different cabinet if you found a head that you liked for both.[/QUOTE]

No he doesn't.

fatbandit 01-07-2010 03:14 PM

I know someone who's used the Tiny Terror as a recording head for both bass and guitar. Don't know what cab he ran with it though. Have you also seen the new Bass Terror? I don't know how it handles guitar, but it might be alright. Also, I'd make sure to test the setup with a guitar first to make sure you like the sound. Bass cabs aren't always that great on the distortion front, but in theory the SP210 should work. Make sure you don't get one with a tweeter, or at least with a defeatable one.

Aaron 01-07-2010 03:21 PM

Thanks for all the advice dudes. I'm not a guitarist or bassist really, but my space is where our recording space will be so I figure it'd be good to have a permament rig here; might tempt me to play a lot more. Can't really justify two though. :D

gaslight 01-07-2010 03:29 PM

The keyboard amp suggestion is a good one.

Aaron 01-07-2010 04:43 PM

Ya it's one I'm considering closely. If I'm micing cabs for recording, is there going to be a huge difference in quality [considering I'll be running in-box EQ and effects] between valvestate and valve amps?

fatbandit 01-07-2010 05:23 PM

Depends on your taste. I've heard valve amps I hate, and solid state amps I love. But overall, nothing beats full on valve grind for me. Especially for guitar. Try a few out and see what you think.


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