lol i need that book

I wouldn't agree about good drummers knowing more theory than pianists.

Rhythm theory is one thing but you left out the wealth of melodic/harmonic knowledge that is required to be a great pianist.

But then you get into difficult territory, because if you're discussing what the truly great players do, you have to remember that most players aren't truly great players so you can't say "a great X would know more than most Ys", only great players versus other great players, and if they're all great players they won't have many chinks in the armour no matter instrument they play.

I'd say it's a fruitless discussion really. Every instrument has its own nuances and its own unique considerations as well as things it shares with other instruments. Every musician worth their salt should study a wide range of theory as well as practising their own instrument's specifics.

So yeah, there's no answer for that question as far as I'm concerned.

drumming is different to me because its incredibly physical, watching these guys pull of 300 bpm polyrhythms slowed down is jaw dropping

i wouldn't compare the two

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kdpAGDu8s

please sample the song in this for one of your tunes

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These are okay.

[quote=gaslight;17363502]I wouldn't agree about good drummers knowing more theory than pianists.

Rhythm theory is one thing but you left out the wealth of melodic/harmonic knowledge that is required to be a great pianist.
[/quote]
Well, most drummers actually have a fairly developed understanding of harmonics, but don't have a NEED to apply them beyond ingrained actions [ie. not doing across the bar fills when there's complex parts being played by others].

For example, when I gig I take two snares; one is tuned to C, and another to E# an octave higher [roughly], and change them out depending on the key of the song. I also generally have two rides in my setup for similar purposes.

I wouldn't say most drummers have a good understanding of harmony, most of the good ones do of course. But whoever discusses bad drummers anyway? :p

That's interesting about the snare tuning, when do you swap out the C, when C wouldn't be diatonic to the key of a song?

Haha yeah, bad drummers are a dime a dozen.

Actually, it depends on what type of musicians I'm playing with. If there isn't keys or horns I'll have the snare the juxtaposes the tone of the music [ie. if it's a slow-burner balad in a lower register I'll grab the higher tuned one], but if it's a fuller band I'll probably use the snare that compliments the sound of it more.

Hey Brad if you're out there man, I just learned that the British Open will not be on free-to-air this year. I am shattered, this is a travesty!!!!!

[QUOTE=Aaron;17363645]Haha yeah, bad drummers are a dime a dozen.

Actually, it depends on what type of musicians I'm playing with. If there isn't keys or horns I'll have the snare the juxtaposes the tone of the music [ie. if it's a slow-burner balad in a lower register I'll grab the higher tuned one], but if it's a fuller band I'll probably use the snare that compliments the sound of it more.[/QUOTE]

Ah nice.

I worked out if you tune one snare to C and one snare to F# then they each fit as diatonic notes within six of the twelve keys each but it probably doesn't work like that hey, too many overtones and everything. Tuning of a kit is so important though, I always respect a drummer who takes the time to think and tweak their kit.

That's brutal about the golf.

I had to vent, besides I'm playing Sat Sun and Mon so I shouldn't really complain, but I will and did.

Do they show golf at sports bars?

haha really? thats ****...i was thinking it was gunna be on that ONEHD sports channel but maybe not.

thats ghey

[quote=gaslight;17363672]Ah nice.

I worked out if you tune one snare to C and one snare to F# then they each fit as diatonic notes within six of the twelve keys each but it probably doesn't work like that hey, too many overtones and everything. Tuning of a kit is so important though, I always respect a drummer who takes the time to think and tweak their kit.

That's brutal about the golf.[/quote]
Yeah pretty much. You've gotta have a good ear to read the room to know what type of snare will suit it because the waveform for drums is odd and the pitch is lower to the ear the further you get away from them. Of late I've been gigging/jamming with a 3-ply 10"x14" Beech and a 12-ply 6x12" Walnut.

One day I'll have me a drum kit, one day.

[quote=prime possum;17363701]haha really? thats ****...i was thinking it was gunna be on that ONEHD sports channel but maybe not.

thats ghey[/quote]

annoyed much

I very much have nothing to do today.

[quote=gaslight;17363715]One day I'll have me a drum kit, one day.[/quote]
I have two kits, seven snare drums and something like 27 cymbals. I dunno where they all are actually, haha.

"I've lost a computer."
"What do you mean lost it?"
"It still responds to ping, but I can't find it."

:lol:

[QUOTE=gaslight;17363715]One day I'll have me a drum kit, one day.[/QUOTE]

I've always wanted one, and I still harbour that dream. Double kicks are to die for

I'm quicker with one pedal than with two, lol. I can sit pretty comfortably with one pedal doing 16ths at about 120bpm or so [or 32nd notes at 60bpm, [or 64th notes at 30bpm [how's that for metric modulation]]].

I've never liked double-pedal playing, I can get a pretty fast twitch-fibre thing going with a single kick.

I only use my slave-pedal [the second one] for when I'm doing triplet pattern stuff, or throwing 5/6/7/9 stroke rolls underneath tom fills.

derty south rap lyrics are awful

Haha yeah, it's all pretty uniformly terrible in every way.

whats with these neighbours screaming at each other

the bloke next door was just running up the street swinging a golf club around shouting a load of f[size=2]uc[/size]k you's after there was just some guy on the kerb who turned up and they had a screaming match at each other, then he was screaming at his wife now she and her daughter are walking up the road giggling at him happily then the cops turned up when I got back from the shop a block away :/

i'm pretty sure they deal meth or something

I think that guy must be banging his wife.

maybe

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surprise at #1

Oh the shame :upset:.

I just found a nasty spider living in the couch in my music room.

Mortein can + gas lighter = pest removal.

Mortein can + gas lighter + pest removal = burnt couch

Couch turned out looking a whole lot better than the spider ;).

who's gonna go see harry potter tomorrow?

i know i'm not.

i might wait for it to be released on dvd

but i haven't seen the first however many there are

Nah not my thing. Haven't seen any of the movies or read any of the books.

i caused an argument with my friend telling her i wasn't going to see it.

(she's a huge harry potter fan and wishes she was in the world that it was set)

im very keen, might go see it on the weekend. love the series

[QUOTE=I_WEAR_RED_PANTS;17364096]i caused an argument with my friend telling her i wasn't going to see it.

(she's a huge harry potter fan and wishes she was in the world that it was set)[/QUOTE]

Haha how gay.

I love fantasy and sci-fi but I was doing the whole wizards and whatsits business when I was seven so Harry Potter all came a bit late for me.

sorry Brad but you're not keen

I am pretty keen for new bass strings tomorrow, it's about time. I'm gonna put up more ads for teaching too.

what're you getting?

Not fussed really. Most likely some DRs. I want to try the Lo-Riders but if they don't have them I'll try Hi-Beams which I saw they had last time.