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Joe 12-26-2004 11:17 AM

[QUOTE=crossface]in the lyrics of the song Fade to Black, at the bridge part i tought i heard james say "French-fries" :confuse:[/QUOTE]

your not talking about the real song right...your talking about some concert i hope...actually i used to think he said some weird things, but when you see the lyrics it sounds a lot different

he says weird things during concerts

Squirrel 12-26-2004 11:48 AM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]it probably is real, but they set up all their stunts and have them end up in a certain way. so it's probably staged[/QUOTE]

so, according to you its both probably real .. and probably staged .. ? gg, moron.


It's staged, its obvious as hell, also backed up by the documentary thats also on the disc ..

Rasta Rocker 12-26-2004 12:29 PM

[QUOTE=I'mhungryForASandwich]Rob looks like a drunken Indian Ninja that now plays bass for Metallica[/QUOTE]

hahaha, so true

willis2441 12-26-2004 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=chimairaforlife]I was trying to learnt the ride the lightining solo the other day. It is imo the hardest metallica solo out there[/QUOTE]
their herdest solo would be the damage inc. solo, sorry

Rasta Rocker 12-26-2004 03:29 PM

[QUOTE=willis2441]their herdest solo would be the damage inc. solo, sorry[/QUOTE]

i think itd be the second solo in The Four Horsemen

Freezing Moon 12-26-2004 03:46 PM

[quote=willis2441]their herdest solo would be the damage inc. solo, sorry[/quote]

He said that the "Ride The Lightning" solo was the hardest [b]IN HIS OPINION[/b]. This doesn't mean that it is the "hardest" solo. It's all subjective to opinion, and therefore pointless to argue.

[QUOTE=Rasta Rockerstat3]i think itd be the second solo in The Four Horsemen[/QUOTE]

Dave Mustaine wrote that solo.

JACKROXYOU 12-26-2004 06:37 PM

is it because mustaine wrote that makes it hard?

Rasta Rocker 12-26-2004 08:03 PM

no, its just cause its a pretty wicked awesome solo

JACKROXYOU 12-26-2004 08:13 PM

o that works too

ThrashMaster27 12-26-2004 09:39 PM

That's not really a hard solo. The solo in 'Mechanix' is harder than The Four Horsemen, although being very simular, which we all know why. Anyway, another vote for Ride The Lightning here, although after a lot of practice it gets a lot easier....quite a task to play though.

MoX_KIll 12-26-2004 10:12 PM

I think all there solo's are hard...but i suck at guitar so thats my fault but from what i tried to do i think Blackend is the hardest

RiceMonster 12-26-2004 10:14 PM

[QUOTE=MoX_KIll]I think all there solo's are hard...but i suck at guitar so thats my fault but from what i tried to do i think Blackend is the hardest[/QUOTE]
How long have you been playing?

kirk_wylde 12-27-2004 11:31 AM

bumpification

Squirrel 12-27-2004 11:34 AM

In the grand scheme of things Metallica solos are a walk over, seriously, 2-3 years playing and you can nail anyone of them; theyre all the same.

You need to check out the likes of Becker, Buckethead, Bumblefoot, Gilbert etc if you really want to see guitar solos.

Joe 12-27-2004 01:12 PM

[QUOTE=Squirrel]In the grand scheme of things Metallica solos are a walk over, seriously, 2-3 years playing and you can nail anyone of them; theyre all the same.[/QUOTE]

if you've been playing 2-3 years, well, then you should be able to do any of them. but like me, i've been playing 3 years only pretty good and all i got down is Fade to Black, One, Wolf and Man, and Nothing Else Matters. (the only one i've tried otherwise is Puppets, but i've only looked at it once)

cliff solos for all 12-27-2004 01:46 PM

is metallica making a new album anytime soon
i want hear how good rob really is

RiceMonster 12-27-2004 01:46 PM

I can play all Fade to Black solo's, all Sanatarium solos, all One solos, Nothing else Matters, and Call of Ktulu (but very slopy). I've been playing for two years, but I took piano for six years before I started guitar, so I progressed faster than a lot of people. I don't learn solo's anymore, I try to find what scale it's in then improvise, much more fun. Metallia solo's are always in penetatonic scales, so I don't even need to do figure out the scale.

Freezing Moon 12-27-2004 01:54 PM

I can do almost all of the solos on Kill 'em All because they're pretty much all the same. Like EVH said, all pentatonic. The solos on the other albums are more challenging, but once you get one you can get most of them. I have to give some more credit to Kirk for the "Creeping Death" solo though. I had a bit more trouble with that one.

btoto 12-27-2004 03:43 PM

[QUOTE=ThrashMaster27]That's not really a hard solo. The solo in 'Mechanix' is harder than The Four Horsemen, although being very simular, which we all know why. Anyway, another vote for Ride The Lightning here, although after a lot of practice it gets a lot easier....quite a task to play though.[/QUOTE]

Exactly ! The 4 horsemen is not hard at all. I learned it very quickly. The one on Mechanix is harder and more fun to play. I recently started to learn it. But I got a few problems in that solo. Too much of hammer-ons and my guitar doesn't have 24 frets so I have to play that solo in a bit different way.

I never tried to play RTL but I think it's not so hard as it seems.

About which one is the hardest, I think someone from 'tallica once said that the hardest solo is Creeping Death and then Blackened. I'm not sure though :thumb:

Po0sH 12-27-2004 04:33 PM

[QUOTE=btoto]Exactly ! The 4 horsemen is not hard at all. I learned it very quickly. The one on Mechanix is harder and more fun to play. I recently started to learn it. But I got a few problems in that solo. Too much of hammer-ons and my guitar doesn't have 24 frets so I have to play that solo in a bit different way.

I never tried to play RTL but I think it's not so hard as it seems.

About which one is the hardest, I think someone from 'tallica once said that the hardest solo is Creeping Death and then Blackened. I'm not sure though :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Probably Dyers Eve is the hardest

btoto 12-27-2004 04:38 PM

^ I don't think so. Dyers Eve is just playing with wah pedal with a few fast lines.

Rasta Rocker 12-27-2004 05:27 PM

doesnt matter, their solos rule

btoto 12-27-2004 05:33 PM

^who doubts?

bball_1523 12-27-2004 05:39 PM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]if you've been playing 2-3 years, well, then you should be able to do any of them. but like me, i've been playing 3 years only pretty good and all i got down is Fade to Black, One, Wolf and Man, and Nothing Else Matters. (the only one i've tried otherwise is Puppets, but i've only looked at it once)[/QUOTE]

I can bearly play the first fade to black solo, first sanitarium solo, the intro to 2nd MOP solo (slowly and sloppy), and the sandman solo sloppy. I've been playing for 3 years. I guess it's the fact that I don't practice enough.

I find the Leper Messiah solo is tough, mainly the intro. It's like a sweep, and doing the sweep up the fret board it tough for my small hand and fingers.

btoto 12-27-2004 06:02 PM

^it's not because you don't practice enough. It's because you probably never try hard to master anything. All Sanitarium solos are easy, last Fade To Black is also easy. You just have to say to yourself: "I won't leave this guitar until I master it" That's all ! You spend 4-5 hours to learn the basis of a certain solo. The rest (speed, accuracy) will come in a few days. You can't learn anything perfect in one day.

btoto 12-27-2004 06:04 PM

Yeah, small fingers is a problem

shredguitarist1 12-27-2004 06:11 PM

kirk
 
[QUOTE=Ramsey]^ yeah. Like how they did with black album. I mean they showed the world they can play incredible metal (everything before the black album) and then they showed the world they can be artists too (black album) if they do that again i will definently buy their album...[/QUOTE]

The black album is overrated kirk used waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much wah on all those songs and those songs are so blan compared to their old ones. They know need to get a new lead guitarist or at least convince kirk to solo and use good tone.

btoto 12-27-2004 06:20 PM

^Kirk had a very good tone on Load and Reload

Joe 12-27-2004 07:11 PM

[QUOTE=bball_1523]I can bearly play the first fade to black solo, first sanitarium solo, the intro to 2nd MOP solo (slowly and sloppy), and the sandman solo sloppy. I've been playing for 3 years. I guess it's the fact that I don't practice enough.

I find the Leper Messiah solo is tough, mainly the intro. It's like a sweep, and doing the sweep up the fret board it tough for my small hand and fingers.[/QUOTE]


the first fade to black intro is fairly easy, really. just keep playing it nonstop. same with all solos/songs. just commit yourself to learning it and you'll find it easier. fade to black, the whole song, took me awhile to learn but it's all i played for a few weeks

Joe 12-27-2004 07:13 PM

[QUOTE=shredguitarist1]The black album is overrated kirk used waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much wah on all those songs and those songs are so blan compared to their old ones. They know need to get a new lead guitarist or at least convince kirk to solo and use good tone.[/QUOTE]

i agree that he used too much wah, but he has amazing tone on most of the albums. you just need to listen to all their stuff

JACKROXYOU 12-27-2004 11:55 PM

[QUOTE=btoto]^Kirk had a very good tone on Load and Reload[/QUOTE]

for more than one thing

RiceMonster 12-28-2004 12:05 AM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]i agree that he used too much wah, but he has amazing tone on most of the albums. you just need to listen to all their stuff[/QUOTE]
I really hate it when he uses wah wah on the Fade to Black solo live.

JACKROXYOU 12-28-2004 12:15 AM

i dont know dude it was awsome when i saw but you know the whole concert rocked

Freezing Moon 12-28-2004 12:25 AM

[quote=EddieVanHalen769]I really hate it when he uses wah wah on the Fade to Black solo live.[/quote]

I completely agree. I think Kirk overdoes it on the wah a lot.

Also one really sweet song that I think his solo almost ruins is Harvester Of Sorrow. Its really slow and it just doesn't seem to fit with the song in my mind.

Also, yes he definitly overused the wah pedal on The Black Album. I actually didn't like that album, although lots of people probably did....

JACKROXYOU 12-28-2004 12:49 AM

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]I completely agree. I think Kirk overdoes it on the wah a lot.

Also one really sweet song that I think his solo almost ruins is Harvester Of Sorrow. Its really slow and it just doesn't seem to fit with the song in my mind.

Also, yes he definitly overused the wah pedal on The Black Album. I actually didn't like that album, although lots of people probably did....[/QUOTE]

i still dont know about to much on fade to black but otherwise yes he kinda goes wah wah crazy.

black album i think he did it to sound different but i dont like love the hell out of that album.

dont hate either

Freezing Moon 12-28-2004 12:54 AM

I don't hate the Black Album, but it was pretty much the beginning of their transformation into a completely different band. Everything after The Black Album was pretty much a different Metallica. It was still good, just not the same.

JACKROXYOU 12-28-2004 12:57 AM

yea but i dont know how thety could return to the old stuff. i think they switched because they knew they couldnt make another Master of Puppets

Freezing Moon 12-28-2004 01:08 AM

[quote=JACKROXYOU]yea but i dont know how thety could return to the old stuff. i think they switched because they knew they couldnt make another Master of Puppets[/quote]

I think they switched either because they wanted to do something different with their music, or sold out and wanted a new fan base. Enter Sandman is pretty commonly played on the radio....

I'mhungryForASandwich 12-28-2004 01:23 AM

[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]I think they switched either because they wanted to do something different with their music, or sold out and wanted a new fan base. Enter Sandman is pretty commonly played on the radio....[/QUOTE]

When people say Metallica sold out, I dont understand what sell out means. Are you saying they "sold out" because they started makeing worse music? Because that just wouldent make sence. Wouldent makeing better music = more money? :confused:

ThrashMaster27 12-28-2004 01:29 AM

Many considered them to have comprimised their style. They started as a solely Thrash band but then progressed, although that not being the best of words, to just accessable Metal.


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