[QUOTE=Epidemechanical;18538381]the jimi hendrix one was pretty decent i thought

this thread is such a big ball of shit though [B][U]especially with joel relentlessly condescending everybody [/U][/B]even though he sucks ass

edit: in b4 joel :lol: spams[/QUOTE]

I had noticed this.

[QUOTE=Epidemechanical;18538381]the jimi hendrix one was pretty decent i thought

this thread is such a big ball of shit though especially with joel relentlessly condescending everybody even though he sucks ass

edit: in b4 joel :lol: spams[/QUOTE]
in b4 linkin park

[QUOTE]I had noticed this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]But that's the thing, I've heard your mixes and the tones, whilst not horrible, and seem to be getting better, they're still the same POD bullshit I hear on everything. Another curse of a mediocre monitoring environment.
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it's just they never have that 'space' that I hear on professionally recorded tracks, and I was just wondering if it was a case of clever EQ'g or just that real recorded amps sit better in a mix in general.
EQing a guitar dramatically almost always sounds like poos. I mean the most I might do is filtering then cutting some low mids to give some room for the bass. That only usually clears any mud, then if I have to go boosting some highs I will, but if I need more highs on a guitar it means I probably need less highs on something else.

So yes you can do some 'clever EQing' (it's really just common sense and thinking about the big picture) but essentially yes real amps sit better in the mix 9/10. They push air in a way that clownfucked guitars don't.[/QUOTE]

Yeah because telling your tone sucks and your mix sucks is condescending, sorry if you guys can't take the cold hard truth that your shit sounds like crap.

And I've posted a link to a mix multiple times dude, still waiting on your epic troll payout??

hey joel why dont you post an original song youve written and recorded

seeing as you fancy yourself the premier audio engineer on the forums, what with your annoying fucking attitude about it, im sure it'll be something we can all learn from

p.s. I never talk about song writing or composition. I don't know fuck all about that because like most of the people in this world I suck at writing a good song. And at least I accept that instead of spamming the interwebz with crappy linkin park rehashes.

But nice try.

In b4 "stop hitting refresh bro."

still waiting for the link thats never gonna come cuz you like to talk about being good without actually being good

[quote=Convectuoso;18521378][url]http://soundcloud.com/convectuoso/abc12345[/url]


Try this on for size.

I only recorded drums. Everything else was recorded and played by the client (1 guy) on an Mbox 2 pro.

And feedback appreciated.

**unmastered, soundcloud just makes it looks like I've smashed it, but it's not mastered yet at all**[/quote]
:amaze:

so that recording is the reason you get to condescend everyone

:lol:

Okay so lets lay it out:


1) First and foremost I really don't give one iota of care about your opinion on audio related anything. The fact that even after three mixes and trying you real bestest! you still can't hear that your shit sounds like crap is reason enough to know that you really know nothing about audio production.

2) I did not record anything in that except the drums (and that was two years ago), I only mixed it. Which sound perfectly fine as far as I care. If it was up to me I would rerecord the verse vocals and all guitars. But here in the real world you don't get that choice all the time.

3) I don't condescend anyone. That's just a word people use when they can't accept the truth.


4) It doesn't sound like Linkin Park so your comments can be ignored on your theory that you have to be good to be able to comment on anything in this world.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18538290]Seriously? You're actually trying to use those videos to back up your opinion?
[/QUOTE]


Yes...and my opinion was that those sound samples are [B]my idea of a good sounding budget multi-FX modeling pedal, all direct recording sounds...[/B] ;)

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18538290]That is genuinely laughable.
[/QUOTE]

Is it now...the way I see it, I’m actually bi-winning, I win here, I win there, so what are you toadies all going to whine about now?

[QUOTE=Convectuoso]Notice how all the videos have their comments disabled. That's says enough about the content to me.
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Always whining about something or other... :p

I could not help but notice that you missed the stats for those videos that says more than 95% liked the content... ;)

HAAHAHAHA! Because everyone knows that the Youtube Like system is infallible!

[QUOTE=Convectuoso;18538474]in b4 linkin park





Yeah because telling your tone sucks and your mix sucks is condescending, sorry if you guys can't take the cold hard truth that your shit sounds like crap.

And I've posted a link to a mix multiple times dude, still waiting on your epic troll payout??[/QUOTE]

Calm down son, I'm not trying to get at you, I'm just making an observation about how you act it this thread.

lol joel your mix sounds like shit get madder about it

hey maybe if you apologize they'll let you back into stlah lmfao

[QUOTE=SadButTrue]HAAHAHAHA! Because everyone knows that the Youtube Like system is infallible![/QUOTE]


And in response to that I give you THIS...

[QUOTE=Moseph]I don't care what guitar player you bring up. Eric Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughan, David Gilmore, Dimebag Darrell, Tony Iommi, Jimmy Page, BB King, Joe Satriani, Django Reinhardt, Charlie Christian, John McLaughlin, Carlos Santana, Greg Ginn, Duane Allman, John Frusciante, Jack White, Neil Young, or anybody else I missed: somebody has thought that they suck, their tone sucks, and it will be that way now and forever.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The_Mop;18537176]I personally believe that digital audio could be considered one of the greatest inventions of recent decades, and the advancement of which has more or less enabled us to even have a thread such as this discussing techniques in which we can all record in our own homes to a decent standard without the need for specialist analogue equipment...[/QUOTE]


[B]The Mop[/B] and [B]Moseph[/B] pretty much hit the nail on the head! :)

:chug:

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18538284]ATTN: Vanwarp:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy[/url][/QUOTE]


The warning at the beginning states that the article you linked too has multiple issues. The article apparently lacks references or sources for verification and may contain unverifiable claims.

For this reason, I prefer this simple definition:

[url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/fallacy?show=0&t=1307897157[/url]


;)

yeah because that website has plenty of sources and citations

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18538724]The warning at the beginning states that the article you linked too has multiple issues. The article apparently lacks references or sources for verification and may contain unverifiable claims.

For this reason, I prefer this simple definition:

[url]http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/fallacy?show=0&t=1307897157[/url]


;)[/QUOTE]

Doesn't matter what source you have, you still misuse the concept of fallacy.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18538783]Doesn't matter what source you have, you still misuse the concept of fallacy.
[/QUOTE]


Really... :rolleyes:

Shall we look at some of the evidence...

[QUOTE=Sad But True]Wait [B]didn't he spend like 5 pages saying how the Axefx was no better than a Zoom G2[/B]...
[/QUOTE]


And my response was...

[QUOTE=I_am_the_One]Still spitting out more fallacies... :rolleyes:
[/QUOTE]


Then one of your toadies responded with...

[QUOTE=JoshIsNumber3]jesus christ you fucking idiot, how is anything you highlighted a fallacy?[/QUOTE]


And the proof that what you said was a fallacy...

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18501146]I already stated that the 2000$ Axe-FX contained nothing but high end features that would help it sound better than any 100$ multi-fx unit.[/QUOTE]


So, now that's two fallacies you posted! ;)

jesus christ you really don't know what a logical fallacy is. it's not the loose definition that you're cherry picking from webster, but it is a method of highlighting and processing poor usage of rhetoric in debates and arguments. You haven't highlighted a single thing so far that would count as a logical fallacy in rhetoric and the fact that you use such a poor definition of fallacy only shows that you are simply unable to do so. nigga you are like the king of trolls

[QUOTE=JoshIsNumber3;18538844]jesus christ you really don't know what a logical fallacy is. it's not the loose definition that you're cherry picking from webster, but it is a method of highlighting and processing poor usage of rhetoric in debates and arguments. You haven't highlighted a single thing so far that would count as a [B]logical fallacy[/B] in rhetoric and the fact that you use such a poor definition of fallacy only shows that you are simply unable to do so. nigga you are like the king of trolls[/QUOTE]


A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. So, if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. And, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may still be true.

The logical truth here is simply that SadButTrue spits out more fallacies than the remainder of the toadies on this site...

[QUOTE=JoshIsNumber3;18538844]nigga you are like the king of trolls[/QUOTE]


And since SadButTrue already holds the title of Guru, you certainly are a frontrunner for the title of King of Toadies! :p

[quote=Epidemechanical;18538616]lol joel your mix sounds like shit get madder about it

hey maybe if you apologize they'll let you back into stlah lmfao[/quote]
When you can tell that your own mixes sounds like a giant mess then maybe I'll take your opinion with a little more than a grain of salt? :rolleyes:


Besides, if the client likes it, then that's all I care about, and he luuuurves it.

Sorry if this upsets you in some way you need to turn this thread into a pissing contest?

hay i attend audio school my opinion matter lolol heres my incredibly average recording and my incredibly irritating, pretentious opinion of why its the fucking best ever

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18538865]A logical fallacy is a false or incorrect logical principle. An argument that is based upon a logical fallacy is therefore not valid. So, if the logic of an argument is valid then the conclusion must also be valid, which means that if the premises are all true then the conclusion must also be true. Valid logic applied to one or more false premises, however, leads to an invalid argument. And, if an argument is not valid the conclusion may still be true.
[/QUOTE]

can't you come up with your own ideas without copy and pasting from all over the internet?

[QUOTE=JoshIsNumber3;18538908]can't you come up with your own ideas without copy and pasting from all over the internet?[/QUOTE]

What's the matter, [B]cry baby bitch boy[/B] can't argue with the logic I posted? ;)
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Convectuoso that mix isn't half bad actually. A few things I would have changed in terms of a mix . (a lot of things I would have changed in the song, to me it sounded like a bad Muse B side but that's neither here nor there)

The vocals sat well, the drums are passable, nothing great going on there. Could definitely use some more stereo seperation. Also by about half way through the sound of the cymbals really started to get to me. I felt their was far too much stick attack. But that may have been what the band wanted.

I felt the guitars and bass really muddled together and you couldn't pick out the bass at all. The lead guitar tone wasn't bad though.

Overall it's not bad.

yeah the mix wasn't half bad, a lot of stuff gets lost as more instruments come in, especially on teh drums but for the most part the mix sounds pretty clean, keep at it man

@Xomblies and Dave: Yeah thanks, that's exactly how I feel about it (in terms of the mix, I always kinda learn to like the song or at least parts of it, makes it more enjoyable). Like I think it's not a half bad mix, nothing amazing, but I think I've done all I can really without rerecording guitar tones and vocals especially. Raayl's just being a douchebag because he his butt sore for some reason.

I've learnt to think at the end of a mix: "well what did I have to work with?". If I've made something at least half decent out of a dog turd (in terms of the actual quantifiable quality of the source tracks) then I've done my job, and can only hopefully get better at it. And my god you should hear some of the source tracks with bypassed plug ins.

Bit of a side track but: its really easy to say "oh the mixer should've done this and I would've done this better" but with out perspective you can't be sure that if you mixed the song, you wouldn't do that either. Especially in this day and age where almost no projects are tracked all at the same place by the same person and on an appropriate budget.


Anyway...


@Dave RE: Bass; can you not hear the distorted bass tones when the first big chorus comes in? When I crank it on my speakers it sounds pretty huge, what are you listening on? Genuinely curious with the translation of the bass because that was one of my favourite parts of the mix :lol: (when the bass comes in for the first time, then drops then comes back in).

[quote=Epidemechanical;18538903]hay i attend audio school my opinion matter lolol heres my incredibly average recording and my incredibly irritating, pretentious opinion of why its the fucking best ever[/quote]
My point is I don't trust your opinion or your monitoring system. Even without the fact you're on a vendetta.

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18538916]What's the matter, [B]cry baby bitch boy[/B] can't argue with the logic I posted? ;)
.[/QUOTE]

You didn't post any.

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18539555]You didn't post any.[/QUOTE]


Sure I did...

[QUOTE=I_am_the_One]The [B]logical truth[/B] here is simply that [B]SadButTrue[/B] spits out more fallacies than the remainder of the toadies on this site...[/QUOTE]


You're obviously taking this much too seriously. The funny thing is, the more you fight my logic, the more you all spit out the toadies lunatic fringe... :lol:

[QUOTE=I_am_the_one;18539624]Sure I did...




You're obviously taking this much too seriously. The funny thing is, the more you fight my logic, the more you all spit out the toadies lunatic fringe... :lol:[/QUOTE]
You can't just call something logic and claim it to be.

Well I have only listened to it on 2 different sources, my macbook speakers first. Which is always the first thing I listen to something on because it's pretty much the lowest common denominator. And then I listened on my half way decent set of sony head phones.

I tend to mix on stuff like this as well sometimes. (not the entire mix of course, just kinda A/B between different stuff) It usually gives me perspective on the worst that it could sound and what most people would probably end up listening on.

If I listened to it on my Klipsch speakers I'm sure the bass would probably resonate better, but on the average listening medium it didn't do it for me. That's just one guys opinion of course, which is no more or less valid then your own.

Is vanwarp another one of Blockheads alts by any chance?

[QUOTE=dave mustaine #2;18539657]Is vanwarp another one of Blockheads alts by any chance?[/QUOTE]

Nah I actually like blockhead on occasion; he understands how logic works.

lol funny post sbt thanks for making it

[QUOTE=Sad But True;18539630]You can't just call something logic and claim it to be.[/QUOTE]


wat? You spitting out toady logic... :lol:

'SadButTrue spits out more fallacies than the remainder of the toadies on this site'

is not a 'logical truth'

even if it were a fact

what the fuck is a toady

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