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ToyDolls 04-05-2005 03:01 PM

All right, this is a big job.

I want a sound of classic metal-kinda progish but I still want the cymbals to be applicable to other times of music. I don't care about a budget. The set up would be:

Hi-Hats

Ride

Crash 1

Crash 2

Crash 3

Effects 1

Effects 2

Effects 3

Effects Ride 4

I would like it one step up with only Zildjian and another with all Sabian. (So I can choose and pick from these companies. Don't give any Wuhan, paiste or any others; I just want a Zildjian setup or a Sabian.)

As in, here are the cymbals you'd want from Zildjian, and here is the kind you would like from Sabian.

J0llyhunter 04-05-2005 03:27 PM

[QUOTE=groomits]Not long ago I bought a 15 AAX dark crash and I love it. now I'm looking to change my 16'' AA rock cause I don't like it. What would fit really well with the dark crash. maybe the 17'' of the same model? I want something dark, explosive, that will sound more than the 15''.[/QUOTE]

maybe 17 K dark crash thin

Spacehog26 04-05-2005 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=ToyDolls]All right, this is a big job.

I want a sound of classic metal-kinda progish but I still want the cymbals to be applicable to other times of music. I don't care about a budget. The set up would be:[/QUOTE]

Hi-Hats = 14" AAX Fusion Hats
Ride = 21" Signature Tri Top Ride
Crash 1 = 15" AAX Dark Crash
Crash 2 = 17" AAXplosion Crash
Crash 3 = 19" HHXtreme Crash
Effects 1 = 20" HH Dark Chinese
Effects 2 = 10" AA Splash
Effects 3 = 12" AAX Splash
Effects Ride 4 = 19" Signature V-FX Ride

(my take on the Sabian selection :))

Martin

meizmatt 04-05-2005 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=spiritII]Do you have a budget? What styles are you going to play with it? Are you a brand whore? Do you have other cymbals you'd like it to blend with? Anything else you think would help us to help?[/QUOTE]


i dont really have a budget since it will be in a few months and i will be working many more hrs in the summer. as for style i want something that is versatile enough to go from jazz to metal and any style in between. i couldnt give a **** if it was zildjian or sabian.

Murd_666 04-05-2005 03:54 PM

Sabian
HH 13" HHX Groove
R 21" AA Medium Heavy
C1 17" Vault Crash
C2 18" AA Medium Crash
C3 16" AAX Stage Crash
Efx1 10" HH Duo Splash
Efx2 12" Ice Bell
Efx3 18" HH Chinese
EfxR4 18" Signature Crystal Ride

bobby__johnny 04-05-2005 04:07 PM

Hi-Hats - 14" AAX Stage hats
Ride - 20" Hand Hammered Rock Ride
Crash 1 - 17" HHX Stage Crash
Crash 2 - 18" Hand Hammered Medium Crash
Crash 3 - 20" AA Medium Crash
Effects 1 - 10" AA Splash
Effects 2 - 20" B8 Pro Chinese
Effects 3 - 14" HHX Evolution Mini Chinese
Effects Ride 4 - Signature Will Calhoun Ambient Ride

groomits 04-05-2005 05:16 PM

you seem to really like this b8 pro china, I think I'll go try one this weekend.

drummer172 04-05-2005 06:14 PM

Ok im looking for some quick bright hi hats. Preferably 13". Price limit is $400

poppinfresh 04-05-2005 06:32 PM

zlidjian 14 zbt.

drummer172 04-05-2005 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=poppinfresh]zlidjian 14 zbt.[/QUOTE]Umm i was thinking on the high end lines

bobby__johnny 04-05-2005 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=groomits]you seem to really like this b8 pro china, I think I'll go try one this weekend.[/QUOTE]

think Wuhans with more tone and less trash

drummer172 04-05-2005 07:35 PM

bump

bobby__johnny 04-05-2005 07:39 PM

silly noob....this thread doesnt need to be bumped. what are you bumping?

meizmatt 04-05-2005 08:14 PM

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]silly noob....this thread doesnt need to be bumped. what are you bumping?[/QUOTE]
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DruMMeR_BoY14 04-06-2005 12:40 AM

I'm thinking about getting another splash for my kit. I already have a 10" Stagg Myra splash, and was looking at getting an 8" splash as well. I want a short and high pitched sound and was looking at a Zildjian A splash, but if anyone has any other sugestions hit me with them.

Spacehog26 04-06-2005 03:49 AM

The 8" Stagg SH splash is quite nice, although it's got a bit much sustain for my tastes. Gotta love the Sabian AAX 8" splash for really short cutting sounds, I find it a great accent cymbal

Martin

spiritII 04-06-2005 04:11 AM

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]silly noob....this thread doesnt need to be bumped. what are you bumping?[/QUOTE]

[quote=silly noob]Ok im looking for some quick bright hi hats. Preferably 13". Price limit is $400[/quote]

He was trying to get you to look at his question methinks.

A Custom Mastersounds?

ToyDolls 04-06-2005 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=bobby__johnny]Hi-Hats - 14" AAX Stage hats
Ride - 20" Hand Hammered Rock Ride
Crash 1 - 17" HHX Stage Crash
Crash 2 - 18" Hand Hammered Medium Crash
Crash 3 - 20" AA Medium Crash
Effects 1 - 10" AA Splash
Effects 2 - 20" B8 Pro Chinese
Effects 3 - 14" HHX Evolution Mini Chinese
Effects Ride 4 - Signature Will Calhoun Ambient Ride[/QUOTE]

Thank you and the others who helped.

groomits 04-06-2005 03:23 PM

today I was repeting for a song that we'll play at school. and it was the first time I saw that drumkit of the school. and what did I saw?? a 20" paiste signature dry ride and a K custom 14'' hi hat. man I didnt know my shcool had enough budget to buy these. I think at the end of the school year, I'll steal it lol

ToyDolls 04-06-2005 04:31 PM

I've gone with this based one all your suggestions.

Hi Hats: 13" HHX Groove Hi-Hat
Ride: 20" AA Medium Heavy Ride
Crash 1: 15" AAX Dark Crash
Crash 2: 17" AAX plosion Crash
Crash 3: 17" Vault Crash
Effects 1: 10" AA Splash
Effects 2: 14" HHX Evolution Mini-Chinese
Effects 3: 20" HH Dark Chinese
Effects Ride: 19" Sig. V-FX Ride

This comes out around $1,575. Well, a little work I can get this.

drummer172 04-06-2005 06:38 PM

Sorry about the bumping i was in an impatient mood. Any other suggestions?

-Funky monk- 04-06-2005 07:56 PM

A jazz/grooving type ride, thick, good stick def., and not to many overtones.

bobby__johnny 04-06-2005 07:58 PM

AA Flat hats, AAX Fast hats, AA/AAX/Hand Hammered Fusion Hats

ToyDolls 04-06-2005 09:53 PM

Effects 3: 20" HH Dark Chinese
Effects Ride: 19" Sig. V-FX Ride

I have a hard time finding these cymbals for sale, anyone know of a place that carries them?

Seafroggys 04-06-2005 11:08 PM

Whats the different sound characteristics of a flat ride compared to a normal bell ride? I heard a flat ride once and it sounded good, so I am curious.

bobby__johnny 04-07-2005 09:26 AM

they are much dryer and crisper sounding. The bell is what gives a cymbal its overtones and volume. thats why Dry rides gennerally have small bells, and why flat rides never project as much as the same ride with a bell.

Spacehog26 04-07-2005 11:30 AM

[QUOTE=ToyDolls]Effects 3: 20" HH Dark Chinese
Effects Ride: 19" Sig. V-FX Ride

I have a hard time finding these cymbals for sale, anyone know of a place that carries them?[/QUOTE]

You may have to get your store to order them in. If they're going to get such a big purchase out of you, most stores would be happy to, I'm sure (I got my store to order me in a *splash*... all the way from Canada to the UK :))

Martin

bobby__johnny 04-07-2005 04:06 PM

all of Sabians cymbals come from Canada ;)

Iskandar 04-07-2005 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=punker101nofxrancid]A jazz/grooving type ride, thick, good stick def., and not to many overtones.[/QUOTE]

K Custom High Definition Ride.

TTTSNB 04-07-2005 05:34 PM

A massively cutting china that still has some nice dark overtones and can be ridden on easily.


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