WHICH CATEGORY DOES WITHERING SURFACE FALL INTO?
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[QUOTE=MetalGuru]WHICH CATEGORY DOES WITHERING SURFACE FALL INTO?
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same asn flames/soilwork/gardenian etc...

thanks, per ardua ad astra

You forgot BongZilla

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what would u class the mars volta as and sikth

mars volta is progressive rock

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]mars volta is progressive rock[/QUOTE]
thanks i thoguth so but ppl told me they were alternative

Well I like the traditionall Heavy Metal :naughty:

heavy metal all the way hehe

what is alt metal. spineshank are alt metal and the dont seem to be any different to sum metal bands. how do you get this catagory

heavy metal is the direction that you should go in

Good list! :thumb:

And there shouldn't be something about Hardcore, Metalcore, Grindcore, Noisecore, Power Metal and others. It's good for how it is. Only the biggest Metal genres and no sub-genres.

nice reviews, now i know wut kind of metal i like...nu-metal, it just gives me so much adrenaline listening to them

[QUOTE]Hey everyone, this is my first post on this site and I hope to have many more following it..... etc etc[/QUOTE]

two words: 'holy' and 'shyat'

I've been wondering what two bands are consittered because I realy can't tell.

The Black Dahlia Murder: They throw a higher-piched vocal line in with Death-Style Guitar riffs and a great mix of drums. They aren't one of my most favorite bands, but I'm trying to figure out what they truly are.

Lamb of God: If they aren't nothing then they are everything. The Vocals seem to mix a high piched sound with a low piched sound all at the same time. The Guitars have a mix between death and trash with a unique twist in there too. The drums don't seem to have a spescific style of metal, but they are very technical and fast. These guys are one of, maybe even my favorite band, but I still can't fit them into a genre.

You decide.... 'cause I can't

^You've been here four days, max, so you can be excused..but you'd be shocked how many threads there were before this about this kind of thing.

Nice Job!
 

[FONT=Tahoma]undefined[/FONT][QUOTE=LegionsofMarduk]At the request of the mods, I'm making this thread to get stickied. Seeing as how there are numerous threads asking "What's the difference between genre X and genre Y?", hopefully this will curb some of those. NOTE: This is a very general guideline and not a definitive carved in stone definition. While I may put a band in with one genre, that doesn't mean that they might not fit into more than one sub-genre. I think most people here know my main area of interest is death and black metal so if you disagree with some of my opinions or band lists...fine.

[U]Traditional heavy Metal[/U]
This is kind of a "catch all". There are plenty of sub-genres, but there are lots of bands that don't fit any sub-genre and can't really be called anything except "heavy metal". This can be basically anything from the old school British heavy metal invation to the newer stuff coming out today (not to be confused with nu-metal). This is what most people think of when they hear "Power metal" or such terms. Lots of different styles can be considered traditional heavy metal. Some bands: Iron Maiden, Judas Preist, Iced Earth, Godsmack, Manowar, Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall etc etc etc etc.

[U]Thrash metal[/U]
Thrash really started to come into play in the early 1980's. It was in one way, an answer to the more popular "hair metal" bands of the time. Thrash grew out of older metal such as Black Sabbath combined with chunkier riffs, speed, agrresive vocals, and even some punk. Thrash metal is concentrated more heavily on speed and aggression than it's predacessors. Key bands: Metallica (old stuff), Slayer, Anthrax, Kreator, Sodom, Megadeth, Exodus, Overkill, Nuclear Assault, Sabbat (UK), Darkane etc etc.

[U]Doom Metal[/U]
Where thrash metal concentrates on being fast and aggressive, doom concentrates on being slower, lower and groovier. Many consider Black Sabbath to be the fathers of doom. Typically the music is slow and heavy. Guitars are tuned down and the vocals are usually clean, although growls do slip in on occasion. Also, while death and black metal are generally more aggressive lyrically, doom metal is very meloncholic, depressive and gives an extremly dark vibe. The music can range quite a bit from the extremely slloooooow all clean vocals, to the faster (but still relatively slow) doom/death bands. Check out [url]http://www.doom-metal.com[/url] for some good information and a pretty large list of bands. Key bands: Candlemass, St. Vitus, Unsilence, My Dying Bride, Katatonia, Paradise Lost etc etc.

[U]Death Metal[/U]
Death metal is the opposite end of the spectrum from doom metal. There are a few different schools of death metal. Generally speaking though, the music is fast, aggressive, low. The bass line is usually more pronounced than in other metal sub-genres. The vocal style is trademark to death metal. Usually vocals are growled or grunted. Blast beat drums are very prevalent. The most common misconception is that death metal is all about death and gore and killing and the likes. This is most certainly not the case. While many bands do sing about this type of thing, there are tons of great bands that do not limit themselves to lyrics like that. Lyrics can range to include religion, spirituality, fantasy and beyond. The music can range from the very aggressive and brutal (Aborted, Iniquity, Suffocation) to the more melodic (Ebony Tears, At The Gates) to the very technical (Atheist, Cynic). Key bands: Lykathea Aflame, Mithras, Morbid Angel, Behemoth (older stuff was black metal), Opeth, Immolation, Blood Red Throne, Entombed, Unleashed, Sinners Bleed.

[U]Melodic death metal[/U]
An obvious sub-genre to death metal, it's becoming popular enough that I think it deserves it's own little section. Basically, it incorporates more melody. What it lacks in brutallity, it more than makes up for in melodic grooves. The vocals are typically not as harsh, there may or may not be as many blast beats. Key Bands: At The Gates, In Flames, Ebony Tears, Carcass (Heartwork mainly), Aeternus, Amon Amarth, Kalmah, Norther.

[U]Black Metal[/U]
My own personaly favorite and particular area of expertise. Black metal and death metal are quite closely related. While death is focused on the shear brutallity, black metal is focused more on creating atmosphere. The music is typically higher pitched with less of a bass line. Some bands incorporate the use of keyboards or synthesizers. The production is quite often pretty bad giving it a raw or "trOO necro" quality. Tremelo picking abounds, blast beats are not as prevalent as in death metal but are still there quite often. The vocals are generally high pitched shreiked or screamed. The music can range from the "trOO necro" bands (Darkthrone) to the more melodic (Naglfar) to the very sophisticated orchestral atmospheric (Arcturus). A common misconception about black metal is that all the bands are Satanist and sing about Satan. While many bands are Satanic or anti-christian (note the distinct difference), that is not the case with all black metal bands. Lyrics can range from Satanic to fantasy to witchcraft to just about anything. Many black metal bands are very paganistic in ideology and see the christian church as an intruder in their native lands, leading to the very deep seeded hatred for christianity. Unfortunately, black metal also has a sub-genre known as NSBM. National Socialist Black Metal. While I do listen to quite a few of those bands because I like the music, lyrically many black metal bands are very racist against not only Blacks or Jews, but anyone of non-aryan decent. Key bands: Burzum, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Nargaroth, Emperor, Bathory, Immortal, Beherit, Graveland, Gorgoroth, Moonblood, Samael.

[U]Progressive metal[/U]
A newer genre (relatively speaking), prog metal incorporates the general aggression of heavy metal with the progressive rock sound of the late 70's. Generally speaking, the music has lots of different aspects including key and time changes, unique riffing and such. The level of musicianship is typically extremly high. Dream Theater is by far the most popular band in this genre. The music is generally quite technical. Key Bands: Dream Theater, Queensryche, Spiral Architect, Spastic Ink, Aghora, Gordian Knot, Racer X.

[U]Nu-metal[/U]
Nu-metal is the newest craze to hit mainstream rock radio. Without trying to bash it too much, generally speaking the music structure is very simplistic. Lyrics cover subjects that are close to todays teens (depression, abuse, drugs etc). There are very few guitar solos and the one's that are there are typically very simple and short. Vocals can range from the more metal influenced to a fusion of metal and rap. Guitars are often downtuned or drop tuned. This genre is generally not very popular among listeners of other metal music, but it is the newest craze and therefore very promoted and heavily played on the radio. Bands: Slipknot, Mudvayne, System Of A Down, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Linkin Park, Disturbed.


Again...this is NOT a definitive list. It not by any stretch of the imagination complete. I'm sure if we really wanted to we could come up with a good 20 or so more sub-genres. It is meant as a [i]general[/i] guideline for the noob who's just getting into metal that otherwise would have posted a "What's the difference" thread. Feel free to agree or disagree. With any genre, there are bands that cross over and blur the lines. Your best bet if you're new to any genre of metal is to go out find a list of bands in the genre you're interested in. Download a couple songs from a bunch of different bands and then make your own distinctions.[/QUOTE]



I don't know how Killswitch Engage and Shadows Fall fell into traditional Heavy Metal, but overall that is some decent work. \m/

[QUOTE=gh0s7drummerr]nice reviews, now i know wut kind of metal i like...nu-metal, it just gives me so much adrenaline listening to them[/QUOTE]
Black metal and Thrash metal gives me more adrenaline than nu metal.

[QUOTE=Mardok]Black metal and Thrash metal gives me more adrenaline than nu metal.[/QUOTE]
if theyre done right, then yes, definitely! :thumb:

I think you forgot an important band in the Death metal section. That band being...Death o_o.

It was never meant to be an exhaustive list.

[QUOTE=Ve Das]Kick.Mallcore.OFF.THAT.LIST!!![/QUOTE]
im going to have to say i agree with this one. mallcore (or as you stated nu metal) has nothing to do with real metal. metal's roots come from british rock, blues, and classical music wheras numetal/mallcore's roots are within jazz, hip hop and grunge. you are correct on the discription of nu metal as a whole, but it shouldn't be on this list of "heavy metal"

what does rage against the machine count as

[QUOTE=MetalGuru]Hey everyone, this is my first post on this site and I hope to have many more following it. I am not a musician, yet, but only because I have no money to pay for lessons or instruments, I hope to be a drummer when I get the money, focusing especially on double bass kick with high beats per minute (I am already undergoing endurance/speed training for my arms and legs especially so I can jump start myself to double bass kick as quickly as possible).

My current passion is discovering, listening to and discussing metal, drums and metal bands. I am trying to keep a running total of how many bands that I actually can say I listen to. What I need from you, the public, is to help me add to this list, based on the current tastes obviously shown by this list. I also welcome critisism and corrections on my list because I know for sure that I am wrong about some things on it. I hope by the time I start to learn how to drum I do live up to the name: MetalGuru.

Try to put up with what ever gross improportions or errors put on here, but make no mistake, I am a REAL metal fan, I listen to metal about 10-15 hours a day (yes I have calculated it), but I have never really had a chance to discuss it with real metal fans since non of my friends are metal heads like me. This would be the reason for any misconceptions I have on types or bands. With that said, here's the list:

Note: If bands are refered to be split into "stages" it is because they changed their style drastically at one or two points in their careers and I feel that it would need clarification between the stages to describe the type of metal. Moreover, you may notice the heavy use of Symphonic, I think anything using keys could be described as Symphonic, even though with the different levels of key use it could be said to be either Symphonic, Melodic or even Industrial.

My Favorites
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Bands: Dimmu Borgir, Opeth, Amon Amarth, Graveworm, Fear Factory, Children of Bodom

Types: Black, Death, Progressive, Nu, Industrial, Heavy

(Mainstream/Mainstream Sounding) Metal (expect errors to be in this section)
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Atreyu (pop screemo metal)
Dark Army
Enter My Silence
Godsmack
iLL NiNo
Kitty
LostProphets (emo rock)
Machinehead
Metallica
Mudvayne
Seether
Slipknot
Static-X
Stone Sour
Sugar Coma
Tool
Hatebreed (hardcore?)


Death Metal
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Flagband(s): Morbid Angel, Fear Factory (slightly, slightly symphonic, first stage only)

Amon Amarth (Melodic)
Anasarca
Beheaded
Cannibal Corpse (DeathGore-Metal)
Corpse Vomit
Children of Bodom (Swedish DM?, does not sound AT ALL like Death Metal, only band with keys that I wouldn't consider "Symphonic")
Chronic Disorder
Curriculum Mortis (Melodic)
Dimmak
Fleshtized
Guidance of Sin (Melodic)
Iniquity
Nephasth
Panzerchrist
Taetre (somewhat melodic)
Thalarion (Symphonic Melodic and (somewhat) Epic)

Black Metal
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Flagband(s): Dimmu Borgir (Symphonic, first stage = true BM)

Agathodaimon (Symphonic)
Bathory
Cathedral (Symphonic)
Cradle of Filth (Symphonic)
Dark Funeral (Symphonic)
Graveworm (Symphonic, my current favorite)
Kovenant (Symphonic, first stage = true BM)
Old Man's Child (Symphonic?)
Pik (Doom Rock)
Rotting Christ (Symphonic)
Wolfheart (thrash)

Thrash Metal
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Flagband(s): Meshuggah (Progressive Technical)

Darkane (Heavy Progressive Technical)
The Haunted (Heavy)

Nu-Metal(can be described as Nu because it is popular, but this SOUND can also be achieved by much less popular bands, keep that in mind. Also keep mind that I wouldn't be surprised if half these bands ARE actually Nu-Metal in Europe. I prefer mainstream over Nu to describing pop metal, because really, what is popular is culture specific, it could be different in another country)
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Disturbed
Fear Factory (heavy industrial, technical, more symphonic, transition stage and third stage only)
In Flames
Jerkstore
Korn(rock then?)
Mevadio
Mnemic (heavy, hybrid, progressive fast fusion, huge variety of heavy styles)
Raunchy
Sacrificial
Seether
System of a Down (punkishly hardcore)
Withering Surface (thrash)

Progressive
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Opeth (pseudo BM, real type=progressive dark emo with true BM sound, roughly 50 percent of their music is not ENTIRELY metal through the whole song, while about 10 percent is not metal at all, strange band)

Indie-Metal
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Kloak

Psychedelic Metal (yes this is an actual type)
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Apex Theory
Alchemist

Heavy Metal
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Artillery
Fight (rock)
Heaven's Cry
Symphony X

Rock-Rap
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Flag band(s): Cypresshill (final stage)

Kush
Limp Bizkit

Power Metal
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DragonForce (this band is the reason I DON'T like Power Metal)

Other/Bands I don't know much of but still like
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Gwar
Mushroomhead
Super Joint Ritual
Lamb of God
Melvins
Nirvana
Black Sabbath
Buruzia (is that spelt right, features drummer from Fear Factory?)

I know OF many other bands (both popular and underground) but they aren't worth it to list on here because I know so little of them.



That's the list, I welcome any and all comments, privately and publically, since my only goal in life at the moment is to further my knowledge and correctness on metal and metal culture.

ANYONE WITH GOOD SYMPHONIC BLACK METAL (better or as good as Graveworm or Dimmu Borgir) OR REALLY HARD HITTING NU-METAL (better or as good as Mnemic or System of a Down) CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY WITH THE NAMES. ALSO ANYONE WITH ANY MUSIC THAT SOUNDS LIKE AMON AMARTH AND CURRICULUM MORTIS OR OPETH OR CHILDREN OF BODOM ALSO CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY.[/QUOTE]

Couple corrections, if you are going for knowledge. Fear Factory is grindcore. Nirvana is not in any way shape or form metal, they are grunge. Black Sabbath is Doom, the Melvins are punk, Gwar is Death.

Fear Factory are not grindcore; they were death metal, now they're metal with industrial influence. The Melvins are not punk. Sabbath are not pure doom, they just influenced it hugely - I'd just call them heavy metal.

[QUOTE=Bartender]Fear Factory are not grindcore; they were death metal, now they're metal with industrial influence. The Melvins are not punk. Sabbath are not pure doom, they just influenced it hugely - I'd just call them heavy metal.[/QUOTE]

So all in all the corrections need serious correcting. And Gwar are about as far away from death metal as you can get!!

I've never heard Gwar - is that a good thing?

i always thought of FF as cyber metal
dont waste your braincells on gwar, lol

ok, first off.. lol, the power metal band posted is BS, you want power metal look into Blind Guardian, they are the best of the genre

as for prog, why give the big explanation, just say Rush

some of the other bands on there are questionable, i never knew symphony x is heavy metal, they dont have anything in common with the other bands listed, you might as well put them in the power/progressive area

best symphonic noise i guess would be arcturus, ulver?

[QUOTE=Bartender]I've never heard Gwar - is that a good thing?[/QUOTE]

:lol:
They are basically the non grindcore version of 'Anal Cunt'

[QUOTE]some of the other bands on there are questionable, i never knew symphony x is heavy metal, they dont have anything in common with the other bands listed, you might as well put them in the power/progressive area[/QUOTE]

Symphony X is definitely progressive metal.

good list! though in the near future nu-metal may be gone completely. also no testament listed under thrash? aww come on!