Awesome, I'll see you there. Do you know if Cb's is selling tickets are not? I heard both they were and weren't.

If you look in the first pages (not sure which) but some thing was said about throwdown. I believe that they are actually hXc but only because of there additude of there playing. There are a lot of other great bands that come out of Trust Kill Records like:Bleeding through, Poison the Well, and Open hand.

This is my first threat and I use this site a lot just I signed up because some moron said blink 182 was punk

[QUOTE=punkerx99]I thought you got over this whole elitist thing. They are a good band... I don't care if you're best friend's brother's cousin had one bad experience with them. That's a stupid way to judge a band.[/QUOTE]

What's that got to do with elitism?

A band having heart and being sincere is seriously important to me.
Enthusiasm does alot for me.

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ]Awesome, I'll see you there. Do you know if Cb's is selling tickets are not? I heard both they were and weren't.[/QUOTE]

Sweet... there's a kid from NJ on the Thrice boards who is also coming.

I have no idea what the ticket situation is-- I know the family that owns CB's so I don't need to buy tickets... that or radiotakeover will hook me up.

I think there's a link for tickets in general on CB's website... see if they are there.

I read on the With Honor boards that they covered "Start Today" at a few recent shows. I would love to see them play it in NYC.

Before I get started with this, I have a few statements to make. Yes, I am new at this forum and no I did not read all of this thread, so someone may have posted this already. Why does anyone care about these subcategories? Are you not going to listen to something just because it's hardcore and your a metalcore fan? I am seriously not trying to offend anybody here. I would really like to know. To me, each of these bands belongs in a category I like to call music. If you like it, cool. If not, oh well. I have never been into subdividing these groups into these technical categories. I still see it as all being rock, whether it is metal, nu-metal, hardcore, or post-harcore-grinding-metal-surfer-jazz-fusion-c*ck-rockin-country.

Yeah, listen to some of those bands and you'll actually understand why you can't just call it all 'music'.

Actually, you could call it all music. Music is personal preference. While I do not consider rap music, many people (and God bless those challenged souls j/k) consider that to be music. I listen to everything from KsE to The Used to Lamb of God to Nailbomb to Tool to Steve Vai to Chemical Brothers to DJ Tiesto to Mozart to Eric Clapton (I think you get it). Im just wondering why so many people think that grouping one of their favorite bands into the "wrong" category offends them so much. And by the way, thanks for not throwing a sh*t fit about my post.

If you're referring to us getting pissy in this thread, it's because hardcore is more than just a genre of music. It's a subculture with it's own set of ethics and beliefs, and something a lot of kids hold dear to their hearts. So when someone calls a very obviously un-hardcore band like Killswitch Engage hardcore, yeah, they get offended. It's not that there's anything wrong with that band, but they simply are not hardcore.

The other problem is that the difference between hardcore and 'metalcore' is really so vast that calling say Lamb of God or Atreyu hardcore (which I've seen many times on this board) is nearly the equivalent of calling Dream Theater punk rock.

I can see your point. I believe that music is the number one way of life for me right now. But Im not going to get mad at someone because they said Hatebreed was hardcore when they are actually metalcore, or vice versa. I guess Im too simple of a person. I just believe that if you put restraints on yourself such as categories, then you will not be able to grow as a musician or a music lover. And again, thanks for all of the feedback.

P.S. What would you consider Lamb Of God and Killswitch Engage?

American Metal I guess of LoG, I don't listen to them a lot, nor know a lot about them.

Killswitch is Metalcore though.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez]Copeland, ewwwww.[/QUOTE]Are you crazy?

word. Copeland is sick.

Just because you like hardcore doesn't mean that you can't like any other genres. I love pop punk and cheesey metalcore, among other hated genres.

[QUOTE=punkerx99]Thanks to Shane, I've decided to come back. I missed you all terribly.

I've been enjoying the following recently:
Have Heart
[B]Bury Your Dead[/B]
Iron and Wine
Copeland
[B]Set Your Goals[/B]
The Arcade Fire
The Killers
Death From Above 1979
[B]Sinking Ships[/B]
Anterrabae
[B]the new Comeback Kid album[/B]
etc.[/QUOTE]
123 for the bold ones. And cool you're back.

And now he's cooler than all of us because he has hook ups :upset:

[QUOTE=A-Life-Less-Plagued]123 for the bold ones. And cool you're back.[/QUOTE]
Sinking ships rule, they just got added to the bane show in seattle.

Copeland is bad. I don't understand you guys.

[QUOTE=noneed66]Sinking ships rule, they just got added to the bane show in seattle.[/QUOTE]
I want to get a copy of their demo. I've got no american moneys though.

[url]www.myspace.com/paintitblack[/url]
Since myspace's player never works for me anymore, i'm relying on you all to tell me if the new song is any good. Now go listen!

It's pretty good. I haven't listened to them in a while. This song seems to be an improvement on the stuff on CVA.

I thought it was ok. Didn't like it more than CVA, but I only know like 2 songs off of CVA. The song was good when there wasn't a lot of just mroe like noise to it.

I downloaded the live video of Short Fuse by No Warning from Hellfest 2003. It's played super super fast, it's almost funny in the verses.

Check out the video. I can see a very very blurry version of me a couple times.

[url]http://www.1917records.com/media-gunsup.html[/url]

What do you look like?

I stole my car for that show.

[QUOTE=noneed66]What do you look like?[/QUOTE]

I really don't think you'd be able to see me by description... but I go by in the circle pit a few times and I'm standing at the back towards the end. Black pageninetynine shirt (but its too blurry to read the band name or even see the picture), theres a small white logo on the back of the shirt near the neck, and the front of the shirt just looks like a big white square. I have a sort of awkward posture, dark hair.

Has anyone heard of the band Dead to Fall? Just out of curiosity, are they considered metal, hardcore, or metalcore? thanks

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]And now he's cooler than all of us because he has hook ups :upset:[/QUOTE]

*is not cool*


Everyone go listen to have heart--purevolume.com/haveheart.

Reiner, you haven't answered me yet. What is up with Between Arms?

[QUOTE=victimofreality]Reiner, you haven't answered me yet. What is up with Between Arms?[/QUOTE]It's over. That ended in the summer.

Dead to Fall is Metalcore, I was just listening to them in the car.

Dead To Fall is more metal than metalcore, I'd say.