Yep, that's what i heard. If its true, i would die

Mikeal did say they'd be back in February. I'd see them again for sure, even though Porcupine Tree wipes the floor with them.

/unnecessary

In other news I went to see Opeth at the House o Blues on Wednesday, setlist was very similiar to other shows. The show was really great btw and I'll probably post the details some other time.

Someone also mentioned that they would like to discuss the lyrics to My Arms Your Hearse and it defintely merits discussion as the album seems to be really well-written. I'd love to do it but dissecting a whole album is a pretty big task and the process would be better if many people joined together to accomplish it. I'd be willing to start with an April Ethereal analysis some time soon (when I have free time). Let me know anyone in this thread would be interesting in working with the lyrics, the more brainpower the better.

Oh and I know I double posted.

You didn't double post silly. This thread moves quick.

The setlists do look too similiar this tour, I hope they change it up next year.

So... what do you guys prefer- Morningrise or Ghost Reveries? There was a poll of this on the Opeth board and i thought it was an... uh intersting question. It's Morningrise for me without a doubt

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Talking about The Funeral Portrait, I [I]love[/I] the "And you are just like them all, stained by the names of fathers" verse. One of my favorite clean verses by Opeth.[/QUOTE]

Hell yeah. It reminds me of Still Life, actually...The Moor in particular.

[quote=Kage] Mikeal did say they'd be back in February. I'd see them again for sure, even though Porcupine Tree wipes the floor with them.

/unnecessary
[/quote] When I saw Porcupine Tree they performed great, but Gavin Harrison was the only one who really blew me away as far as live performers go. Steven didn't really sound like he does on the albums (not necessarily a bad thing, mind you, but in this case I prefer how he sounded on the record). My thoughts on the PT show that I saw were that Wilson is really more of a studio genius than anything, and that Gavin Harrison is amazing.
Although PT are good live, I wouldn't say that they "wipe the floor" with Opeth.

*prays that a Opeth vs Porcupine Tree arguement doesn't break out*.

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]So... what do you guys prefer- Morningrise or Ghost Reveries? There was a poll of this on the Opeth board and i thought it was an... uh intersting question. It's Morningrise for me without a doubt[/QUOTE]

Morningrise is a good album, but I still have yet to see in it what others do. I really just don't care for the old rhythm section that Opeth had...they're good musicians and have alot of chops, but the Martins are just alot more solid and groove like it's nobody's business. Those are attributes that I feel are much more important in a bassist or drummer than "ability to play X amount of notes per second." As a drummer, I find Lopez's playing on Ghost Reveries to be his most inspiring yet, and I like the music more, so I'd have to go with Ghost Reveries.

Plus Mikael's singing and growling are about 100x better now.

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Hell yeah. It reminds me of Still Life, actually...The Moor in particular.

When I saw Porcupine Tree they performed great, but Gavin Harrison was the only one who really blew me away as far as live performers go. Steven didn't really sound like he does on the albums (not necessarily a bad thing, mind you, but in this case I prefer how he sounded on the record). My thoughts on the PT show that I saw were that Wilson is really more of a studio genius than anything, and that Gavin Harrison is amazing.
Although PT are good live, I wouldn't say that they "wipe the floor" with Opeth.

*prays that a Opeth vs Porcupine Tree arguement doesn't break out*.[/QUOTE]
Odd. I was completely blown away by the whole performance. I thought...I dunno, it was perfect. I liked the way his voice sounded. It was a little bit more raw, I guess, a little darker. Just all aesthetics of the show were great. The sights, the sounds...The guitar tone was perfect, as well. You're a big drum guy, though, so you'd notice the drums more than I would.

It's nothing against Opeth, though, because in my opinion PT wipes the floor with every band, haha. :P

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]You didn't double post silly. This thread moves quick.

The setlists do look too similiar this tour, I hope they change it up next year.[/QUOTE]

Yeah no shlt, preferably something from Orchid or Morningrise. For some reason they don't play anything from either album. I don't think they can play the songs live, I really don't.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Yeah no shlt, preferably something from Orchid or Morningrise. For some reason they don't play anything from either album. I don't think they can play the songs live, I really don't.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, well Mikael doesn't really like the material from Orchid and Morningrise, and I don't know if the whole band is familiar with it. It would be amazing if they played Black Rose Immortal or something though, but probably will never happen.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Yeah no shlt, preferably something from Orchid or Morningrise. For some reason they don't play anything from either album. I don't think they can play the songs live, I really don't.[/QUOTE]

Well it's probably because it would put a bias on new listeners. Orchid especially sounds a lot like Gothenburg, Opeth have evolved out of that sound. I'm sure they don't want potential listeners to say "generic Gothenburg crap", with the dual guitar harmonies and such.

They probably forget them, too.

[QUOTE=toaster135]Well it's probably because it would put a bias on new listeners. Orchid especially sounds a lot like Gothenburg, Opeth have evolved out of that sound. I'm sure they don't want potential listeners to say "generic Gothenburg crap", with the dual guitar harmonies and such.

They probably forget them, too.[/QUOTE]


Bias? roflmao you're hilarious! Explain how Orchid sounds like Gothenburg? I don't give a shlt if it sounds like Iceland, I love the album and would like to hear it live; the same goes for Morningrise. You should really read what you type before you submit your post.:amaze:


Edit: I just realized you called [I]Orchid[/I] [U]crap[/U]. I hate you. Not to mention that album got be hooked on them. Don't post ignorance in here ever again. Look the word up, your posts describe that term well.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Bias? roflmao you're hilarious! Explain how Orchid sounds like Gothenburg? I don't give a shlt if it sounds like Iceland, I love the album and would like to hear it live; the same goes for Morningrise. You should really read what you type before you submit your post.:amaze:


Edit: I just realized you called [I]Orchid[/I] [U]crap[/U]. I hate you.[/QUOTE]

Should you really be lecturing me about what [I]I[/I] post?

People who heard Orchid live could mistake it for Gothenburg. I've met many who would write off any Gothenburg band as "generic and boring". I never said it was crap, although I rate it very low compared to other Opeth albums. Don't be so affronted if I don't [I]adore[/I] every ounce of material Opeth has released.

EDIT: :Braces for impact:

[QUOTE=Flynn]Bias? roflmao you're hilarious! Explain how Orchid sounds like Gothenburg? I don't give a shlt if it sounds like Iceland, I love the album and would like to hear it live; the same goes for Morningrise. You should really read what you type before you submit your post.:amaze:


Edit: I just realized you called [I]Orchid[/I] [U]crap[/U]. I hate you. Not to mention that album got be hooked on them. Don't post ignorance in here ever again. Look the word up, your posts describe that term well.[/QUOTE]
Dude, calm down. He can call Orchid crap if he wants to. Besides, he speaks the truth.

It's a disjointed, sloppy and amatuer album in my mind.

[QUOTE=toaster135]Should you really be lecturing me about what [I]I[/I] post?

People who heard Orchid live could mistake it for Gothenburg. I've met many who would write off any Gothenburg band as "generic and boring". I never said it was crap, although I rate it very low compared to other Opeth albums. Don't be so affronted if I don't [I]adore[/I] every ounce of material Opeth has released.[/QUOTE]


First of all, if people go to an Opeth concert, they fvcking know what [B]ORCHID[/B] is. Second, people that go to an Opeth concert don't even fvcking care about Gothenburg. 3rd, I rate your posts as generic, ignorant and arrogant. 4th, Don't label me, you don't know me, it seems to me you're musically ''challenged''. It's all good, you like Opeth, I guess you're the one fans that doesn't know shlt about the band and tries to press your worthless opinion on other people. Eat Fiber.

[QUOTE=Flynn]First of all, if people go to an Opeth concert, they fvcking know what [B]ORCHID[/B] is. Second, people that go to an Opeth concert don't even fvcking care about Gothenburg. 3rd, I rate your posts as generic, ignorant and arrogant. 4th, Don't label me, you don't know me, it seems to me you're musically ''challenged''. It's all good, you like Opeth, I guess you're the one fans that doesn't know shlt about the band and tries to press your worthless opinion on other people. Eat Fiber.[/QUOTE]

Jesus Christ man, calm down.

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Jesus Christ man, calm down.[/QUOTE]


Ignorant people make me angry. I depsise it. Especially when they concur their opinion as a ''norm''. If you don't like Orchid, don't waste your time typing it. Period.

[QUOTE=Flynn]First of all, if people go to an Opeth concert, they fvcking know what [B]ORCHID[/B] is. Second, people that go to an Opeth concert don't even fvcking care about Gothenburg. 3rd, I rate your posts as generic, ignorant and arrogant. 4th, Don't label me, you don't know me, it seems to me you're musically ''challenged''. It's all good, you like Opeth, I guess you're the one fans that doesn't know shlt about the band and tries to press your worthless opinion on other people. Eat Fiber.[/QUOTE]

Seriously I hope you're joking.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Ignorant people make me angry. I depsise it. Especially when they concur their opinion as a ''norm''. If you don't like Orchid, don't waste your time typing it. Period.[/QUOTE]

People have the right to have their own opinion, and if you don't like it, ignore it or dont make such a big deal.... Its as simple as that. I know it's your thread but not every post has to be 100% approving of everything Opeth has released.

[QUOTE=toaster135]Well it's probably because it would put a bias on new listeners. Orchid especially sounds a lot like Gothenburg, Opeth have evolved out of that sound. I'm sure they don't want potential listeners to say "generic Gothenburg crap", with the dual guitar harmonies and such.

They probably forget them, too.[/QUOTE]


Read That.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Read That.[/QUOTE]
OK. He was saying that some newer fans who are more familiar with Opeth's more recent albums might immediately stereotype Orchid as generic Gotherburg crap. He wasnt saying that he himself thought that was true. Get it?

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]People have the right to have their own opinion, and if you don't like it, ignore it or dont make such a big deal.... Its as simple as that. I know it's your thread but not every post has to be 100% approving of everything Opeth has released.[/QUOTE]

Not only that, I never posted my opinion originally. I simply said why I thought they didn't play songs off Orchid and Morningrise live. Only when you totally took my post the wrong way and blasted me did I admit that Orchid is not one of my favorites.

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]OK. He was saying that some newer fans who are more familiar with Opeth's more recent albums might immediately stereotype Orchid as generic Gotherburg crap. He wasnt saying that he himself thought that was true. Get it?[/QUOTE]


Exactly! That's, say it with me , I G N O R A N T. How the fvck does he or anyone else know what other people think? That's his ignorant opinion. Not to mention it's far fetched. Get with the march and listen to the albums before you try defending strangers on the internet.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Exactly! That's, say it with me , I G N O R A N T. How the fvck does he or anyone else know what other people think? That's his ignorant opinion. Not to mention it's far fetched.[/QUOTE]

Making assumptions doesn't equal ignorance.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Get with the march and listen to the albums before you try defending strangers on the internet.[/QUOTE]

I listen to Opeth every day, and know all their albums quite well.

[QUOTE=toaster135]Not only that, I never posted my opinion originally. I simply said why I thought they didn't play songs off Orchid and Morningrise live. Only when you totally took my post the wrong way and blasted me did I admit that Orchid is not one of my favorites.[/QUOTE]


Make a new account, you're going nowhere. You're not witty or intelligent. You don't know shlt about shlt. You got boned, and there's no coming back from it. You deny posting your [I]Opinion [/I]when saying [B]Orchid is Gothenburg crap??????[/B] wow, gtfoh...throw your keyboard in a lake, please.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Make a new account, you're going nowhere. You're not witty or intelligent. You don't know shlt about shlt. You got boned, and there's no coming back from it. You deny posting your [I]Opinion [/I]when saying [B]Orchid is Gothenburg crap??????[/B] wow, gtfoh...throw your keyboard in a lake, please.[/QUOTE]

You're overreacting. Really. He never said his opinion is that Orchid is Gothenburg crap, how many times do I have to repeat it.

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]You're overreacting. Really. He never said his opinion is that Orchid is Gothenburg crap, how many times do I have to repeat it.[/QUOTE]


Shut up, this is our arguement. Let him talk, or are you his mother?

[QUOTE=Flynn]Shut up, this is our arguement. Let him talk, or are you his mother?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, just trying to make you realize you're making a fool out of yourself

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Sorry, just trying to make you realize you're making a fool out of yourself[/QUOTE]


:lol: Don't post my reply, this doesn't concern you. Nevermind, you can post what you want, my bad side ''folder'' has plenty of room. :D

[QUOTE=Flynn]Shut up, this is our arguement. Let him talk, or are you his mother?[/QUOTE]

Actually I was trying to end this by letting you speak yourself out.

I never said they were Gothenburg "crap". Many people who I've met regard all Gothenburg as being generic and boring. I said the band may not want those listeners to be put off, as their new sound TO ME sounds nothing like Gothenburg, although TO ME their Orchid album has identifiable traces of it.

I'm sorry if my previous posts offend you, I'm pretty new to this site, and I've said some things I regret saying. Can we please settle this argument amicably?