[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]
NP: the great debate-dream theater
i love that tribal drums-tool-ish drum part in the middle :][/QUOTE]
I love the way that in that song they dont take any particular stance and just outlay both sides of the argument, the lyrics are really clever as well...who wrote them? cus i definitely think they are some of DT's best.

JP wrote em :thumb:

*sigh*...he's so ... godly.
/dreamy fanboyism

yea i got it thanks :]
are you sure it's chris collins? he has a VERY uncanny resemblance to james...

Heard Petrucci's Suspended Animation (it's great), and now I'm convinced JP can play anything :D Wishful Thinking, that's poppier than Britney :D

[QUOTE=Mr_Bounce]Heard Petrucci's Suspended Animation (it's great), and now I'm convinced JP can play anything :D Wishful Thinking, that's poppier than Britney :D[/QUOTE]

hahaha i wouldn't say so :]
but yea JP is incredibly versatile, no matter what people say.

NP: necronomicon-prologue

thanks IAWDL :thumb: excelent stuff.
sounds like a GREAT video game ^_^

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]JP wrote em :thumb:

*sigh*...he's so ... godly.
/dreamy fanboyism

yea i got it thanks :]
are you sure it's chris collins? he has a VERY uncanny resemblance to james...[/QUOTE]
Nah 'dont look past me' is james, it was off a fan cd they put together for the fan club.

I'll send you 'wanted dead or alive' with collins soon.

oohhh right.
nvm haha

thanks much IAWDL

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]hahaha i wouldn't say so :]
but yea JP is incredibly versatile, no matter what people say.

NP: necronomicon-prologue

thanks IAWDL :thumb: excelent stuff.
sounds like a GREAT video game ^_^[/QUOTE]

Yeah it was a pinball game for the sega saturn called necronomicon: virtual pinball...i'd love to track it down but it was only released in japan
And no problem, anything for a fellow DT worshipper :thumb:

pinballl game..?
hahaha

i can imagine pressing the flipper rocking out to this kinda music :]

It's insane and I'm saying that after seeing 1 piece from it.

[QUOTE=DreadedShred]Dream Theatre = Untalanted

Malmsteen + Steve Vai + Michael Angelo Batio + Nitro + Racer X = more talanted than Dream Theatre

no question John Petucci Sucks at technique[/QUOTE]

This guy is one heck of a fool

anyways is the live in tokyo/5 years in a livetime or somthin dvd any good?

i got that dvd and it is pretty cool, although the production is a little bad, but worth getting for the music. especially if you like they're older stuff (e.g pre FII).

Yeh thats why I was thinkin of getting it, also cause LaBries voice sounded mint on the IAW concerts

Yeah, I've only watched the DVD a couple of times because it won't play on some of my DVD players, but I like it.

It also has some interesting things like the stuff at ronnie scotts with the singer from napalm death and marillion. It also has a clip of nightmare cinema:D

it's a great DVD, you should get it.
esp. the I&W in tokyo. like you said, his voice is ace on 'em. plus....they actually seem to be more animated than they are now O_O

edit: rep ++ for IAWDL for sending me songs :]

Holy sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t, when did rep come back?

[QUOTE=eug008]Yeh thats why I was thinkin of getting it, also cause [B]LaBries voice sounded mint on the IAW concerts[/B][/QUOTE]

...Are we listening to the same concert? I have the I&W/5YIAL DVD, and LaBrie is pretty bad on both of them. Granted on 5YIAL you're seeing him right after his vocal rupture, but he's not really any better on I&W. Lot's of shrieking.

[QUOTE=inassociationwithdeanlearner]Holy sh[SIZE=2]i[/SIZE]t, when did rep come back?[/QUOTE]

just recently :smash:

[QUOTE=eighty d]...Are we listening to the same concert? I have the I&W/5YIAL DVD, and LaBrie is pretty bad on both of them. Granted on 5YIAL you're seeing him right after his vocal rupture, but he's not really any better on I&W. Lot's of shrieking.[/QUOTE]
uumm...ok :smoke: i personally think he's great.

when did his vocal rupture happen? i know he's only just returning to full strength.

NP: paradigm shift-LTE

Wasn't it on the Awake tour or just before recording Awake and he got food poisoning.

do u people rate petrucci for his leads or riffs because i find myself blown away by most of is riffs far more that his solos

Well, by everything he does. (not literally)

I only have Octavarium. I didn't like it at first but i think its pretty good now. Anyway, is this cd a good representation of what the band sounds like?

one thing i never understood about the labrie/vocal chords thing is that the live covers on ACOS are some of his best live vocals i've heard from james, especially the led zeppelin songs. he doesn't miss a single note at all on the cd, but i'm not sure whether those songs were recorded after his food poisoning and only released in '95 or not, which would explain it all.

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]I only have Octavarium. I didn't like it at first but i think its pretty good now. Anyway, is this cd a good representation of what the band sounds like?[/QUOTE]
Well, the band sound pretty different on each record. If you like 8v you'll probably like their other stuff.

[QUOTE=eighty d]...Are we listening to the same concert? I have the I&W/5YIAL DVD, and LaBrie is pretty bad on both of them. Granted on 5YIAL you're seeing him right after his vocal rupture, but he's not really any better on I&W. Lot's of shrieking.[/QUOTE]

You serious, I have a video boot of the I&W tour and his voice sounds perfect on all of the songs, the boot has a very good set too (If your a fan of I&W)

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]I only have Octavarium. I didn't like it at first but i think its pretty good now. Anyway, is this cd a good representation of what the band sounds like?[/QUOTE]

8vm's pretty good but most of DT's other CDs (I&W, Awake, SFAM) are a lot better

[QUOTE=jono1]do u people rate petrucci for his leads or riffs because i find myself blown away by most of is riffs far more that his solos[/QUOTE]
His riffs mainly, but that's not to say he doesn't have some cream inducing solos.

Re: Lie. :o

His solos by far. I honestly think Petrucci is one of the worst riff writers ever.

/don't hurt me. :(

LaBrie sounds rather messed up on the LSFNY album too, I think it was...

His I&W solos were probably the best, latley his solos seem to unfortunatly be hack

[QUOTE=UpperDecker]I only have Octavarium. I didn't like it at first but i think its pretty good now. Anyway, is this cd a good representation of what the band sounds like?[/QUOTE]

Get Images and Words, Awake, or Scenes From A Memory.

In fact, get all 3.

In my honest opinion, Images and Words is the best DT album, plus it has Metropolis part 1 which pretty much defines them.:thumb:

i like his 8vm solos :]
especially the razor's edge one mMm i just wanna....mm it's so good. i can play it im really happy :]

i think petrucci's a great player overall--riffs or solos. some riffs are amazing like the glass prison one...and the lie one.

im actually not as big a fan of metropolis pt. 1 :\ granted, it's a great song and myung's solo never gets old for me :] but it doesn't click for me as much. so i really dont like it when they use it as an encore.

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]im actually not as big a fan of metropolis pt. 1 :\ granted, it's a great song and myung's solo never gets old for me :] but it doesn't click for me as much. so i really dont like it when they use it as an encore.[/QUOTE]

Imagine them playing ACOS as an encore.:thumb:

ACOS is the other song that defines prog metal and DT, for me at least.

Petrucci has a few good riffs, but his solos are what stick out for me.

ACOS is very good (especially another world=some of the most beautiful music ever)...but at this point, i'd much rather them play 8vm live again as an encore. or the spirit carries on. when i saw it (8vm)...it totally blew me away. i absolutely whore that song, and i play along w/ it every day at least once. still working on that shredding...sigh.

EDIT: NP: judas priest-genocide

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]ACOS is very good (especially another world=some of the most beautiful music ever)...but at this point, i'd much rather them play 8vm live again as an encore. or the spirit carries on. when i saw it (8vm)...it totally blew me away. i absolutely whore that song, and i play along w/ it every day at least once. still working on that shredding...sigh.

EDIT: NP: judas priest-genocide[/QUOTE]

I crapped my pants when I was at the Radio City show and they played Octavarium with a full orchestra. Not to mention the other amazing songs and 6DOIT.:thumb:

I think I'm going to be on the DVD "Score," too. If the cameras panned to the left side of the audience, I will be seen easily since I am in the aisle seat standing with a white shirt on.:thumb:

you were at the filmiing too?!?!?!?
lucky bastard.

i just hope the orchestra parts don't get TOO intertwined w/ DT's parts. then it'll sound like a mess at times like metallica's S&M

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]

when did his vocal rupture happen? i know he's only just returning to full strength.

NP: paradigm shift-LTE[/QUOTE]

It was either during the North American leg of the Awake tour or between the North American and Japanese legs. The 5YIAL commentary mentions it but I forget when exactly it happened.

wow...that's really early O_o so he was injured for FII, SFAM, 6DOIT, ToT and 8vm...damn. poor guy.

[QUOTE=ghettoeddo]you were at the filmiing too?!?!?!?
lucky bastard.

i just hope the orchestra parts don't get TOO intertwined w/ DT's parts. then it'll sound like a mess at times like metallica's S&M[/QUOTE]

The thing with S&M is that it was pretty much too pronounced.

The orchestra came in when needed at the Radio city DT show. While I was watching, when the orchestra wasn't playing, the conductor was watching the band play and whenever Rudess or Petrucci did a solo, the conductor would do like a "hell yeah that was awesome" motion, and he would be smiling and amazed, nodding with approval. It was really cool.

Now, I was at S&M NY live and at this Radio city show with orchestra, and I have to say that the orchestra fit a lot better because DT's music is more suited for it. S&M was amazing to see, once and a lifetime thing(same with radio city).:thumb:

you saw S&M live too? damn dude...

oh i thought they were playing constantly like they did in S&M. it jsut didn't fit all the time.
but if they only came in when needed....awesome :]
im REALLY excited for this DVD