OTMOP own. Anyways, what has everyone been digging lately? And whose heard the Ampere/Sinaloa split LP?

I've recently been digging:

Off Minor - [I]Problematic Courtship[/I]
I Hate Myself - [I]10 Songs[/I]
Mineral - [I]The Power of Failing[/I]

There was no owning in this thread.

But I did see a bunch of people act like fags.

*gaylords

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]OTMOP own. Anyways, what has everyone been digging lately? And whose heard the Ampere/Sinaloa split LP?[/QUOTE]


The Promise Ring and The Album Leaf.

I've been meaning to check out The Promise Ring, can you compare them to any other bands?

None come to mind off the bat due to the vocals. They're just really catchy and upbeat. I can send you some songs if you want.

[QUOTE=The Great Decay]I've recently been digging:

Off Minor - [I]Problematic Courtship[/I]
I Hate Myself - [I]10 Songs[/I]
Mineral - [I]The Power of Failing[/I][/QUOTE]


Those are awesome albums.

Screamo is a genre, its just been badly defined by some of the people round here.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Chris:

[url]http://yougotowned.net/[/url]

-Gav[/QUOTE]
you suck up to some of these guys so hard its ridiculous.

how is that owning? simply because music is a new form of an existing genre does not preclude it from having a genre of its own. by your argument we don't need emo either. its all just hardcore then. its the degree of innovation that would determine whether a subgenre has been created, and obviously there are no clear demarcations. you don't think the term screamo is necessary. thats fine, thats your opinion, but you didn't prove anything.

I've been digging Rockets and Blue Lights, Native Nod, Boys Life, Brainworms, and old New Found Glory (Nothing Gold can Stay is a sweet album).

Dude, I don't suck up to anyone, screw you. Chris and I are friends just like Neeshee so why would I suck up to Neeshee?

-Gav

1. Gav doesn't suck up to anyone.
2. You're wrong.
3. Gav is awesome.
4. Neeshee this song is hard to tab.
5. Neeshee this song is REALLY HARD TO TAB
6. I'm going to sleep.

[QUOTE=Wow]The Promise Ring and The Album Leaf.[/QUOTE]
The promise ring are secks

what you posted on the last page:
[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL!!1!1111!o neone1!11eleven!!!!11oneroflrofl

Dude I died laughing at that.

-Gav

Chris:

[url]http://yougotowned.net/[/url]

-Gav



GavSavesTheDay: i cant wait to see what chris says
Neeshacker: ahah i know dude
Neeshacker: he doesn't quite understand this genre classification ****
GavSavesTheDay: haha
Neeshacker: genres suck
GavSavesTheDay: heh
Neeshacker: chris is online
Neeshacker: he better reply
GavSavesTheDay: he's gonna log off
GavSavesTheDay: uninstall his browser
GavSavesTheDay: and never us ehte interwebs gain
Neeshacker: ROFL
GavSavesTheDay: *again
GavSavesTheDay: nice job, neeshee
Neeshacker: lmfao
Neeshacker: thakn you gav
[/QUOTE]
thats just sad. you contributed nothing to the conversation. all you did was verbally fellate them. you seem like a chill guy, people will still like you without all that.

Looks like the people seem to agree with me, Neeshee. I had no intention of starting any bitterness. I was just pointing out that you seem to blow some minor clarifications out of proportion when most of the people in this thread (myself included) are guilty of unbecoming behavior just as "bad" as using the term screamo. There's no need to get bitter over it. You didn't own me at all and nor did I own anyone or even try to. I just think you should conserve a little bit of energy by not getting your panties in a bunch every time someone uses screamo. Most importantly Neeshee, we are like best friends forever so we shouldn't be arguing about this in the first place.

Gav, I agree that you can come off as sucking up now and then. Chill.

[QUOTE=srt-4]you suck up to some of these guys so hard its ridiculous.

how is that owning? simply because music is a new form of an existing genre does not preclude it from having a genre of its own. by your argument we don't need emo either. its all just hardcore then. its the degree of innovation that would determine whether a subgenre has been created, and obviously there are no clear demarcations. you don't think the term screamo is necessary. thats fine, thats your opinion, but you didn't prove anything.[/QUOTE]

I applaud you for making a good case of your opinion. I understand what you are saying, but you have to try to see what i'm saying. You say "simply because music is a new form of an existing genre...", my point is that screamo is NOT a NEW form of anything. Its just a few bands who took a chaotic approach, my point being that they don't justify a new genre. Emo is innovative as hell, so just a few bands who try something different and take hints from each other, doesn't necessarily constitute a new genre. The name emo comes about as a new genre because A LOT of bands took on a new approach to the hardcore scene. It was a bit revolutionary. You might notice a sort of split between the hardcore bands and the so called emo bands. You have stuff like Blacklisted, Modern Life Is War, Comeback Kid, etc. and then you have bands like Sinaloa, Ampere, Gospel, Hot Cross...they are like two different styles/approaches that stem from ONE scene/genre, known as hardcore. So because Emo is a new approach/style it justifies being a new genre. Screamo on the other hand is not a revolutionary approach to emo. Its just a few bands who sped things up and decided to be more chaotic. What if there were 5 more bands who had guitar riffs like Hot Cross and similar vocal styles to Billy? Would that constitute a new subgenre of emo? Certainly not. The same is the case with screamo. I don't have a problem with people calling those few bands "screamo" for classification purposes, thats fine and dandy even though its a little pet peeve of mine, its just that the word "screamo" is often perverted to mean all bands post-saetia, or any new band in the scene, and also suggests that the aforementioned Emo genre is dead. This is also certainly NOT the case. Its ok to refer to a few of those Orchid-esque bands as screamo, but you can't suggest that its a whole new wave of music and that every recent band in the emo scene is a "screamo" band. Somehow "screamo" has become the new "emo" and that is where I have a problem and feel the need to clarify this. But yeah, it is all hardcore essentially, and hardcore is punk rock essentially. I don't care to define bands as "emo" or "modern hardcore" or anything, ultimately its just punk rock to me, and should be to you too.

EDIT TO CHRIS: I wasn't bitter dude, it's all good. I was just kidding around about "owning". And like I said up there, I don't mind it being used in reference to those bands, its just when its used the wrong way with a wrong understanding that gets on my brown nerves. Also Gav isn't sucking up to anyone, he's just kidding around, so chill out dudes.

[QUOTE=srt-4]what you posted on the last page:

thats just sad. you contributed nothing to the conversation. all you did was verbally fellate them. you seem like a chill guy, people will still like you without all that.[/QUOTE]

So I can't screw around with them? Awesome...point of community threads = moot.

By the way, it's not verbally, it's text...just thought I'd point that out.

I don't mean to come off like I'm a suck up. I'm just screwing around and having a good time. Whatever, I'll chill, I guess...

-Gav

<3s for everyone

So discuss me seeing Poison The Well tomorrow and how much it's going to rule.

Depends on what they play. I didn't like You Come Before You at all.

Psh, that's their best work nigga.

You Come Before You is sweet.

Ew. Although, I haven't listened to it in a very long while and I only listened to it once. But I recall thinking it was horrible. My favourite release of theirs is The Opposite of December.

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]I applaud you for making a good case of your opinion. I understand what you are saying, but you have to try to see what.........[/QUOTE]
your statements about the misuse of the term i fully undestand, and i'm sure its something we all can pretty much agree to. but you not considering there to be enough bands doing a sufficient amount of innovation to warrant the term screamo is an opinion thats more polemical. i see your point, i'm just not convinced on that part of your argument.

I was into PTW a looong time ago, I had only heard You Come Before You and it f'ucking ruled.

Match Time: 6:00 PM EST
Neeshee vs Emo Community besides Gav and Ash
Map: Emo Community Thread
League: Elitist Genre Cool Guys
MFTV: [url]http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226512&page=249[/url]


First Half:
Neeshee: 10
Emo Community: 5

Second Half:
Neeshee: 14
Emo Community: 1

Final Score:
Neeshee: 24
Emo Community: 6


If anyone can explain exactly what I mean besides Allofme or Skrunnch, I will laugh.

You Come Before You is the best Metalcore album of all time in my opinion.

[QUOTE=srt-4]your statements about the misuse of the term i fully undestand, and i'm sure its something we all can pretty much agree to. but you not considering there to be enough bands doing a sufficient amount of innovation to warrant the term screamo is an opinion thats more polemical. i see your point, i'm just not convinced on that part of your argument.[/QUOTE]

yeah thats cool. everyone's allowed to have their opinions. :smoke:

EDIT: Ash that is something CS related.

Perhaps I will have to listen to it again.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]So I can't screw around with them? Awesome...point of community threads = moot.

By the way, it's not verbally, it's text...just thought I'd point that out.

I don't mean to come off like I'm a suck up. I'm just screwing around and having a good time. Whatever, I'll chill, I guess...

-Gav[/QUOTE]
ah. good point. a new term has now been added to my personal lexicon. textual fellatio. sweetness.

I've been using "verbally fellate" in this thread for a long time. MY INFLUENCE ON THE WORLD IS APPARENT!

srt-4 wouldn't have even thought about using that word if you hadn't said it before. you obviously set the standard of "cool" and "acceptable" in the world. everyone is conforming!

[QUOTE=Wow]I've been using "verbally fellate" in this thread for a long time. MY INFLUENCE ON THE WORLD IS APPARENT![/QUOTE]
eh, thats a really widely used term. i learned it from tv when i was just a little guy and had to look up what fellate meant. hahah. now textual fellatio on the other hand i have never seen before. due credit to gav for pointing out the need for such an awesome new term.

Good god that took a while to read those last 5 or so pages.

I can only imagine

That was entertaining

Mass Movement Of The Moth's new EP is pretty cool. Still unsure what to rate it, but I know I enjoy it.

[QUOTE=srt-4]eh, thats a really widely used term. i learned it from tv when i was just a little guy and had to look up what fellate meant. hahah. now textual fellatio on the other hand i have never seen before. due credit to gav for pointing out the need for such an awesome new term.[/QUOTE]


IT WAS ALL MY WORKING! DO NOT DENY MY INFLUENCE ON THE WAY YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE!

[QUOTE=XxcheetoxX]Mass Movement Of The Moth's new EP is pretty cool. Still unsure what to rate it, but I know I enjoy it.[/QUOTE]

Can you send it to me dude?

[QUOTE=deadohiosky9]Can you send it to me dude?[/QUOTE]
fo sure

thanks baby