[QUOTE=Flynn]I don't think there is anything quite like D@mnation. It's a great album.[/QUOTE]

You don't have to do the @ thing, hehe..
And yeah.. I envy Mikaels ability to be original.. Hehe

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]You don't have to do the @ thing, hehe..
And yeah.. I envy Mikaels ability to be original.. Hehe[/QUOTE]


Yeah, he's one of a kind. They threw away the mold when they made him. I don't envy him though, I'm glad to see there is still talent in the music world. :chug:

Envy is such a negative word.. you're right, I don't envy him, I just wish I one day will come even close to having accomplished what he has

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Envy is such a negative word.. you're right, I don't envy him, I just wish I one day will come even close to having accomplished what he has[/QUOTE]Lets just hope the new label will let Mikael use his creativity.

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]Envy is such a negative word.. you're right, I don't envy him, I just wish I one day will come even close to having accomplished what he has[/QUOTE]


Yeah no kidding man, me too. It's hard not to envy him though, ya know? If I had 8 albums, each a landmark in music for generations to come, I'd be the happiest person in the world. :)




[QUOTE=guitrguy]Lets just hope the new label will let Mikael use his creativity.[/QUOTE]


My thoughts exactly. I am already looking forward for some new [B]O[/B]peth. I just hope to god it's heavy.

[QUOTE=Flynn]Yeah no kidding man, me too. It's hard not to envy him though, ya know? If I had 8 albums, each a landmark in music for generations to come, I'd be the happiest person in the world. :)







My thoughts exactly. I am already looking forward for some new [B]O[/B]peth. I just hope to god it's heavy.[/QUOTE]
I got a feeling that they will change. More then likely the label wants to make them radio friendly.

They won't change. If Roadrunner let them release GR, which was done long before they signed to RR, then RR won't make them change.

They'll probably try. Though I can't see Opeth selling out at all. I think Ghost Reveries is as light as it's going to get, and I rekon it can only get more progressive from here.

I think Opeth will be fine. I hope Steven Wilsom comes back into the mix next time.

[QUOTE=vashts80]They won't change. If Roadrunner let them release GR, which was done long before they signed to RR, then RR won't make them change.[/QUOTE]
True, but then again they are on the same label as nickleback.

[QUOTE=guitrguy]True, but then again they are on the same label as nickleback.[/QUOTE]
And Slipknot.



...at least the singer from Nickelback is a fan of Opeth.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]I hope Steven Wilsom comes back into the mix next time.[/QUOTE]

i do too. the production was so much heavier on blackwater park and deliverance than it is on ghost reveries.

and if you're worried about opeth changing, you're listening to the wrong band. the thing that makes opeth great is the fact that they change. i personally don't want to see a rehash of morningrise or still life.

and if you're worried about them being changed by the record label, read chapter ten of the opeth biography on their official site.

[QUOTE=eighty d]i do too. the production was so much heavier on blackwater park and deliverance than it is on ghost reveries.

and if you're worried about opeth changing, you're listening to the wrong band. the thing that makes opeth great is the fact that they change. i personally don't want to see a rehash of morningrise or still life.

and if you're worried about them being changed by the record label, read chapter ten of the opeth biography on their official site.[/QUOTE]
I know what your saying, But labels have an extreme amount of power, and if a bands doesnt comply they can get dropped like a sack of potatoes

[QUOTE=guitrguy]I know what your saying, But labels have an extreme amount of power, and if a bands doesnt comply they can get dropped like a sack of potatoes[/QUOTE]

Yes, but Opeth is a big band and has such an established fanbase that they would find another label immediately. The only changes Opeth makes are the ones they want.

[QUOTE=suspect]Yes, but Opeth is a big band and has such an established fanbase that they would find another label immediately. The only changes Opeth makes are the ones they want.[/QUOTE]
Only time will tell.
the only reason i say this is because of what happened to CoB

Opeth have proved themselves over the course of like.. 8 albums. The only thing the record label will be able to do is make them release pretty sub-standard videos and make single cuts like for the Grand Conjuration, and I'm not even sure if Opeth will want them doing that again.

I'm pretty sure that Alexi is the one behind the changes to CoB. You can clearly see the evolution to this style over the last three CD's. You can't say that HCDR is very different to AYDY.

[QUOTE=Knifeboy]You don't have to do the @ thing, hehe..
And yeah.. I envy Mikaels ability to be original.. Hehe[/QUOTE]

Actually most of the material for Damnation wasn't from Mikael's originality, but from Porcupine Tree's musical genius: Steven Wilson. Watch Lamentations Disc 2 (Making of Damnation + Deliverance, and band interviews) and you will see what I mean.

[QUOTE=Blut und Ehre]Actually most of the material for Damnation wasn't from Mikael's originality, but from Porcupine Tree's musical genius: Steven Wilson. Watch Lamentations Disc 2 (Making of Damnation + Deliverance, and band interviews) and you will see what I mean.[/QUOTE]

Seeing as Mikael wrote the songs, I think you could say it was more than not down to his musical ability, and a small part of it was down to Mr. Wilson.

Got my Opeth watch for Christmas. Blackwater Park face.

Tis rather sweet. :D

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Got my Opeth watch for Christmas. Blackwater Park face.

Tis rather sweet. :D[/QUOTE]


That's cool. I might search for one also, my watch broke yesterday.

[QUOTE=Scruples]Guess who got Lamentations? :cool:

With my Christmas money I'mma buy Damnation and some ( )peth shirts.

I also bought Deliverance on eBay for 11 dollars.

Best. Deal. Ever.
[/quote]

Except for me getting Still Life on Amazon for 7.
[quote]
Except for Blackwater Park for 6.

My god, do I kick a[size=2]s[/size]s.[/QUOTE]
:upset:
Oh, Ok. Well Still Life is better! :p

[QUOTE=Blut und Ehre]Actually most of the material for Damnation wasn't from Mikael's originality, but from Porcupine Tree's musical genius: Steven Wilson. Watch Lamentations Disc 2 (Making of Damnation + Deliverance, and band interviews) and you will see what I mean.[/QUOTE]

From what I remember of that, Mike had a lot of soft guitar material written for Deliverance, but Steven Wilson said that it could work better in the double album format, one soft and one heavy.

Wilson only actually contributed one full song (in terms of lyrics), which was Death Whispered a Lullabye

Wilson just adds to what Mikeal already had. It wouldn't be that much different without him.

I don't think it was Steven who came up with the idea though, they were doing it before he came aboard.

Yeah, the heavy/soft thing came before Steve worked with them.


Steve added those nice keyboard lines though. Those probably wouldn't be there without him.

I agree, though someone else would have done them.

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]I agree, though someone else would have done them.[/QUOTE]
As slick as Stevo? I think not. :thumb:

Of course not! Don't accuse me of blasphemy!

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Of course not! Don't accuse me of blasphemy![/QUOTE]
You were implying it... :smash:


;)

[QUOTE=Blut und Ehre]Watch Lamentations Disc 2..[/QUOTE]
There is no disc 2, silly.
[QUOTE=Jude]Except for me getting Still Life on Amazon for 7.
:upset:
Oh, Ok. Well Still Life is better! :p[/QUOTE]
Oh my gawd. I'd rather have Still Life for 10 than Blackwater Park for 6.

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Got my Opeth watch for Christmas. Blackwater Park face.

Tis rather sweet. :D[/QUOTE]

'Tis awesome, an Opeth watch, hehe :p
I was thinking about getting me some Opeth posters...other than my CoB poster, my rez room is quite bare.

/NP Painkiller (Judas Priest cover) - Death. Teh best cover ever :D

got pics of that opeth watch?

[QUOTE=Lev]Hi guys, I wanna go to the Melbourne Opeth concert in April, are their concerts 18+? I'm only 16... :( My friend says because their are two gigs for Melbourne one should be 18+ and one all ages. Anyone know about this??

(this'll be my first concert experience ever :D)[/QUOTE]

....same! Same! And same! It'll be my first concert, I'm 16, it's in Melbourne... yo dude I'll have to meet you there!

I'm lucky, I've got no where to stay up there so Mum has offered to drive me up there and stay with me in a motel or something. Yeah!

But yes there is the issue about the age. Well don't the venues decide? You're in Melbourne, go ask at The Forum. I'll ask/search around, and if I find out I'll tell you.

EDIT: ...isn't The Forum where The Lion King is playing? If so, I don't reckon we'll have to worry about age. Oh, and anyone know how much tickets are?

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]As slick as Stevo? I think not. :thumb:[/QUOTE]

Per?

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]Per?[/QUOTE]
..Per wasn't in the band at the time, nore was he producing Damnation.



Nore would he have had a job with Opeth if it weren't for Damnation.

[QUOTE=Werny]....same! Same! And same! It'll be my first concert, I'm 16, it's in Melbourne... yo dude I'll have to meet you there!

I'm lucky, I've got no where to stay up there so Mum has offered to drive me up there and stay with me in a motel or something. Yeah!

But yes there is the issue about the age. Well don't the venues decide? You're in Melbourne, go ask at The Forum. I'll ask/search around, and if I find out I'll tell you.

EDIT: ...isn't The Forum where The Lion King is playing? If so, I don't reckon we'll have to worry about age. Oh, and anyone know how much tickets are?[/QUOTE]
Try typing in the venues website, and im sure your questions will be answered

[QUOTE=Hells Bells]'Tis awesome, an Opeth watch, hehe :p
I was thinking about getting me some Opeth posters...other than my CoB poster, my rez room is quite bare.

[B]/NP Painkiller (Judas Priest cover) - Death. Teh best cover ever :D[/B][/QUOTE]
Finally someone who agrees with me on this.

[QUOTE=Dunkelheit509]..Per wasn't in the band at the time, nore was he producing Damnation.



Nore would he have had a job with Opeth if it weren't for Damnation.[/QUOTE]

He was touring during the Deliverence tour as well, ie: Before Damnation was actually released. If Steve hadn't done it, maybe Per would have done it, who knows, Mikael had apparently wanted him to work with them for a long time. Though, I think without Steve the recording process could have gone even worse and both albums would have suffered, (Read the Opeth history thing on their site, and watch the Lamentations documentary; very interesting).

Indeed Steve kept the band together during those albums.

Now I really want Lamentations even more. Is it specifically for DVD-A players (like the PT album DVDs) or for any DVD player?